hawkeye Posted June 19, 2010 Share Posted June 19, 2010 I know this is only Youtube, but 2 of the 3 didn't look good against speed coming off the edge. And the good partabout it is these videos are not highlighting them. They are highlighting the defensive player so you get to seesome of their bad games too. Robert Quinn and Aldon Smith(your boy JBO) killed Castonzo and Solder. Matt Reynoldslooked good but he really wasn't going against a speed rusher. He still can move to be a big man tho.Matt Reynolds BYU #70 Anthony Castonzo BC #74http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqJrjwjf55c&feature=relatedNate Solder Colorado #78http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTyDrwMkV-c&feature=related Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atljbo Posted June 19, 2010 Share Posted June 19, 2010 yea Hawkeye... I'm a big time Aldon Smith fan...Dude is a Justin Tuck type player... A DE that can rush as a DE and DT.... He just need to get stronger and bigger...Back to the topic... Good video's.... Nate Solder remind me of Duane Brown... Very athletic and has the tools to be a good OT but it will take him some years to fully develop..... A Developmental type guy.... I dont see Nate as a 1st round OT (2nd round)... He has 1st round talent but his developmental stage is like 2nd/3rd roundI like Anthony Castonzo... He has to get bigger and stronger tho.... Will not be ready to start day 1.Matt Reynolds is cool but he is more of a pure RT to me..Some have told me that they think he can play LT in the NFL tho.. If i draft a RT in the 1st round... I want that RT to have the ability to play LT if needed.I feel like next year OT draft is going to be based off do you want a play OT day 1 or develop an OT that is really athletic (can develop into great OT's if they develop) The reason i like Clint Boling so much is because ive seen dude go against some of the best DE's in college and hold his ground.... Of course he has been beaten before but ive seen him hold his ground vs the best in college.The OT position will be deep if you have time to develop one (1st-3rd round)... If you need a day 1 starter you will need to draft a guy in the 1st - high 2nd round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkeye Posted June 19, 2010 Author Share Posted June 19, 2010 yea Hawkeye... I'm a big time Aldon Smith fan...Dude is a Justin Tuck type player... A DE that can rush as a DE and DT.... He just need to get stronger and bigger...Back to the topic... Good video's.... Nate Solder remind me of Duane Brown... Very athletic and has the tools to be a good OT but it will take him some years to fully develop..... A Developmental type guy.... I dont see Nate as a 1st round OT (2nd round)... He has 1st round talent but his developmental stage is like 2nd/3rd roundI like Anthony Castonzo... He has to get bigger and stronger tho.... Will not be ready to start day 1.Matt Reynolds is cool but he is more of a pure RT to me..Some have told me that they think he can play LT in the NFL tho.. If i draft a RT in the 1st round... I want that RT to have the ability to play LT if needed.I feel like next year OT draft is going to be based off do you want a play OT day 1 or develop an OT that is really athletic (can develop into great OT's if they develop) The reason i like Clint Boling so much is because ive seen dude go against some of the best DE's in college and hold his ground.... Of course he has been beaten before but ive seen him hold his ground vs the best in college.The OT position will be deep if you have time to develop one (1st-3rd round)... If you need a day 1 starter you will need to draft a guy in the 1st - high 2nd round.I like Boling too, but if we went OT 1st rd I would take Reynolds. But 3rd round or later I really like DerekSherrod. I've been checking up on Aldon Smith and he does seem like he will be good. But he does need to get bigger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiler11 Posted June 19, 2010 Share Posted June 19, 2010 I doubt Aldon Smith declares until 2012 - but the kid will be special. He could be a top 5 pick in the 2012 draft.JBO, the Justin Tuck comparison is a pretty good comparison actually - Mizzou lined him up at every position on the D-line during last season.Here's a quote from Spoon on Smith..."He's one of the best players around that I've seen at Mizzou," senior linebacker and captain Sean Weatherspoon said. "He doesn't know how good he can be, but he'll find out soon that the sky's the limit."http://www.sportingnews.com/college-football/article/2009-11-05/aldon-smith-becomes-sack-happy-freshman-for-mizzou Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atljbo Posted June 19, 2010 Share Posted June 19, 2010 I doubt Aldon Smith declares until 2012 - but the kid will be special. He could be a top 5 pick in the 2012 draft.JBO, the Justin Tuck comparison is a pretty good comparison actually - Mizzou lined him up at every position on the D-line during last season.Here's a quote from Spoon on Smith..."He's one of the best players around that I've seen at Mizzou," senior linebacker and captain Sean Weatherspoon said. "He doesn't know how good he can be, but he'll find out soon that the sky's the limit."http://www.sportingnews.com/college-football/article/2009-11-05/aldon-smith-becomes-sack-happy-freshman-for-mizzouThats why i hope he enters the draft next year... If he has a 10+ sack season... He might enter the 2011 draft... Thats a guarantee 1st rounder....I know he will be a top 10 pick in 2012....But yea... He has that Justin Tuck thing going on... I do think he needs to get bigger and stronger tho... (around 265lbs- 275lbs) .... Dude has what it takes to be a special DE.I also like Nick Perry... Its a good chance he will enter next year draft if he has a great season since USC has all the bans on them... Nick Perry is a high motor version of .. Ive heard that he has bulked up to 6'3 260lbs and has had a great spring practices.... Nick Perry is Everson Griffen without the motor question marks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hakim24 Posted June 20, 2010 Share Posted June 20, 2010 I know this is only Youtube, but 2 of the 3 didn't look good against speed coming off the edge. And the good partabout it is these videos are not highlighting them. They are highlighting the defensive player so you get to seesome of their bad games too. Robert Quinn and Aldon Smith(your boy JBO) killed Castonzo and Solder. Matt Reynoldslooked good but he really wasn't going against a speed rusher. He still can move to be a big man tho.Matt Reynolds BYU #70 Anthony Castonzo BC #74http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqJrjwjf55c&feature=relatedNate Solder Colorado #78http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTyDrwMkV-c&feature=relatedCastonzo and Solder are really not what we are looking for anyway imo. We need a RT and both of those guys are pure LTs. I would take Matt Reynolds, but like I said before, he is a 2nd/3rd round prospect in my eyes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkeye Posted June 20, 2010 Author Share Posted June 20, 2010 Castonzo and Solder are really not what we are looking for anyway imo. We need a RT and both of those guys are pure LTs. I would take Matt Reynolds, but like I said before, he is a 2nd/3rd round prospect in my eyes.I'm just saying what they are projected to be by the so called experts. From that group I really like Reynoldsas a 1st rd pick. I have been saying that for a while now. But my ultimate wish is for us to move "up" and getAaron Williams. I really want that #2 CB spot taken care of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiler11 Posted June 20, 2010 Share Posted June 20, 2010 Thats why i hope he enters the draft next year... If he has a 10+ sack season... He might enter the 2011 draft... Thats a guarantee 1st rounder....I know he will be a top 10 pick in 2012....But yea... He has that Justin Tuck thing going on... I do think he needs to get bigger and stronger tho... (around 265lbs- 275lbs) .... Dude has what it takes to be a special DE.I also like Nick Perry... Its a good chance he will enter next year draft if he has a great season since USC has all the bans on them... Nick Perry is a high motor version of .. Ive heard that he has bulked up to 6'3 260lbs and has had a great spring practices.... Nick Perry is Everson Griffen without the motor question marks.Nick Perry is another who could be a top 10 pick in 2012. Dude is fast. He's more of an RE in the NFL imo, whereas Aldon Smith could be a complete DE. Smith has the frame to put 15-20LBS if he wants to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atljbo Posted June 20, 2010 Share Posted June 20, 2010 I'm just saying what they are projected to be by the so called experts. From that group I really like Reynoldsas a 1st rd pick. I have been saying that for a while now. But my ultimate wish is for us to move "up" and getAaron Williams. I really want that #2 CB spot taken care of.If he slipped to us... Iwould take him because that a huge vaule pick.... I wouldnt move up for a CB tho (1st round) ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NFL Draft Fan 07 Posted June 20, 2010 Share Posted June 20, 2010 Nick Perry had a good year last year, 9 sacks and another TFL in the limited snaps he had. 4 of them came against the likes of San Jose State and Washington State, but he impressed me when I watched USC-Washington to get another look at Jake Locker a couple days ago. I may watch some of it again to get more notes on him.I wouldn't object to him in round 1 though. Having Perry, Sidbury and Biermann would be really nice. I have heard Perry put on some weight too, but he already looked big when he was playing last year. I think he was around 250 then.I know he isn't a highly rated guy, but I want to see more of Orlando Franklin. He filled in pretty well for Jason Fox last year, and should be the starting LT from the get-go this year for Miami. I don't know if he has LT potential in the NFL, but I think he would be a good fit at RT for us if we didn't address that position in round 1. He's got good size at 6'7", 318 pounds, and has decent feet from what I remember. I am definitely going to re-watch a Miami game to get a feel for his ability at OT.And there is something I don't like about Nate Solder. I scouted him last year since I thought he might declare and I wasn't particularly impressed. He doesn't have good footwork and he still needs development. He is not a guy, at least at this time, that I would be comfortable drafting in round 1 and playing him as a rookie.Just upon first glance, it appears that there are a lot more quality RT's at the top of the Senior and Junior OT classes than there are quality LT's. If this turns out to be true then this could give us an advantage and a potential value pick if a couple of the RT's we like start to slip (assuming we don't pick one in round 1). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atljbo Posted June 20, 2010 Share Posted June 20, 2010 Nick Perry had a good year last year, 9 sacks and another TFL in the limited snaps he had. 4 of them came against the likes of San Jose State and Washington State, but he impressed me when I watched USC-Washington to get another look at Jake Locker a couple days ago. I may watch some of it again to get more notes on him.I wouldn't object to him in round 1 though. Having Perry, Sidbury and Biermann would be really nice. I have heard Perry put on some weight too, but he already looked big when he was playing last year. I think he was around 250 then.I know he isn't a highly rated guy, but I want to see more of Orlando Franklin. He filled in pretty well for Jason Fox last year, and should be the starting LT from the get-go this year for Miami. I don't know if he has LT potential in the NFL, but I think he would be a good fit at RT for us if we didn't address that position in round 1. He's got good size at 6'7", 318 pounds, and has decent feet from what I remember. I am definitely going to re-watch a Miami game to get a feel for his ability at OT.Yea.. Perry is rocked up.... Similar to Everson Griffen.... I definitely think Nic Perry is a TD type of DE.... Even TD said Everson Griffen was probably one of the best passrushers in the draft... His biggest problem was hot and cold motor and difficult to deal with... Nic Perry does not have those issues...He has the same type talent tho.I am also a Orlando Franklin... I think he is a 2nd or 3rd round pick right now.... Dude has the potential to bea really good RT in the NFL... Hre had to have some type of surgery this off season i think... Nothing major tho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NFL Draft Fan 07 Posted June 20, 2010 Share Posted June 20, 2010 I am not surprised, USC has a great weight training program (almost too good... here's looking at you Cushing). I am really excited to see what Perry, Jurrell Casey, Devon Kennard (I have heard he could take the ILB spot from Galippo, he's a big dude at 6'3", 255 pounds with 4.7 speed), Barkley, Bradford and Kalil do this year. Kalil is going to be a good one I think, he is holding of Tyron Smith at LT even though he's only a sophomore this year.And I guess I wouldn't be surprised if Franklin was graded out as a 2nd or 3rd rounder at this point. He does look like a good RT to me though. I haven't scouted him specifically yet but I have two games I should be able to watch him in (vs Oklahoma and Wisconsin) so I am excited to start watching those games more regularly to get an idea of what to expect from a lot of players this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiler11 Posted June 20, 2010 Share Posted June 20, 2010 Nick Perry had a good year last year, 9 sacks and another TFL in the limited snaps he had. 4 of them came against the likes of San Jose State and Washington State, but he impressed me when I watched USC-Washington to get another look at Jake Locker a couple days ago. I may watch some of it again to get more notes on him.I wouldn't object to him in round 1 though. Having Perry, Sidbury and Biermann would be really nice. I have heard Perry put on some weight too, but he already looked big when he was playing last year. I think he was around 250 then.I know he isn't a highly rated guy, but I want to see more of Orlando Franklin. He filled in pretty well for Jason Fox last year, and should be the starting LT from the get-go this year for Miami. I don't know if he has LT potential in the NFL, but I think he would be a good fit at RT for us if we didn't address that position in round 1. He's got good size at 6'7", 318 pounds, and has decent feet from what I remember. I am definitely going to re-watch a Miami game to get a feel for his ability at OT.And there is something I don't like about Nate Solder. I scouted him last year since I thought he might declare and I wasn't particularly impressed. He doesn't have good footwork and he still needs development. He is not a guy, at least at this time, that I would be comfortable drafting in round 1 and playing him as a rookie.Just upon first glance, it appears that there are a lot more quality RT's at the top of the Senior and Junior OT classes than there are quality LT's. If this turns out to be true then this could give us an advantage and a potential value pick if a couple of the RT's we like start to slip (assuming we don't pick one in round 1).Yeah I like Orlando Franklin a lot - he looked very solid filling in for Jason Fox. I also like James Carpenter from Alabama, he's a Georgia boy too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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