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Man, I sincerely hope they don't prosecute against that patrolman for doing his job and protecting his own life.

Mexico anger high as US Border Patrol kills teen

CIUDAD JUAREZ, Mexico – Mexicans are seething over the second death of a countryman at the hands of U.S. Border Patrol agents in two weeks, an incident near downtown El Paso that is threatening to escalate tensions over migrant issues.

U.S. authorities said Tuesday a Border Patrol agent was defending himself and colleagues when he fatally shot the 15-year-old as officers came under a barrage of big stones while trying to detain illegal immigrants on the U.S. side of the Rio Grande.

About 30 relatives and friends gathered late Tuesday to mourn Sergio Adrian Hernandez Huereka, whose shooting Monday evening came along the border with Texas. He died on the Mexican side of the river.

"**** them! **** them!" sobbed Rosario Hernandez, sister of the dead teenager, at a wake in the family's two-room adobe house on the outskirts of Ciudad Juarez.

Preliminary reports on the incident indicated that U.S. officers on bicycle patrol "were assaulted with rocks by an unknown number of people," Border Patrol Special Operations Supervisor Ramiro Cordero said Tuesday.

"During the assault at least one agent discharged his firearm," he said. "The agent is currently on administrative leave. A thorough, multi-agency investigation is currently ongoing."

The shooting happened beneath a railroad bridge linking the two nations, and late Tuesday night a banner appeared on the bridge that said in English: "U.S. Border Patrol we worry about the violence in Mex and murders and now you. Viva Mexico!"

Less than two weeks ago, Mexican migrant Anastasio Hernandez, 32, died after a Customs and Border Protection officer shocked him with a stun gun at the San Ysidro border crossing that separates San Diego and Tijuana, Mexico. The San Diego medical examiner's office ruled that death a homicide.

Mexican President Felipe Calderon said Tuesday that his government "will use all resources available to protect the rights of Mexican migrants."

The government "reiterates its rejection to the disproportionate use of force on the part on U.S. authorities on the border with Mexico," the president added in a statement.

On an unpaved street, gathered around Hernandez's gray metal casket, the teen's family called for justice.

"There is a God, so why would I want vengeance if no one will return him to me. They killed my little boy and the only thing I ask is for the law" to be applied, said the boy's father, Jesus Hernandez.

His mother was less hopeful. "May God forgive them because I know nothing will happen" to them, Maria Guadalupe Huereka said.

Above the casket was a photo of the youth wearing his soccer uniform and his junior high school grade cards, which showed A's and B's.

His mother said he was a good student who never got in trouble. He was the youngest of five children, played on two soccer teams and had just finished junior high school, she said.

The case took a testy turn when U.S. and Mexican officials traded suggestions of misconduct in the incident.

Arturo Sandoval, a spokesman for the Chihuahua state Attorney General's office, said a spent .40-caliber shell casing was found near the body — raising the question of whether the fatal shot was fired inside Mexico, although he did not explicitly make that allegation. That would violate the rules for Border Patrol agents, who are supposed to stay on the U.S. side of the border.

A U.S. official, meanwhile, said video shows the Border Patrol agent did not enter Mexico.

The official, who agreed to discuss the matter only if not quoted by name, said the video also shows what seem to be four Mexican law enforcement officers driving to the edge of the dry but muddy bed of the Rio Grande, walking across to the U.S. side, picking up an undetermined object and returning to Mexico near the area where the boy's body was. Like their U.S. counterparts, Mexican law officers are not authorized to cross the border without permission.

According to the FBI, Border Patrol agents were responding to a group of suspected illegal immigrants being smuggled into the U.S. near the Paso Del Norte bridge, across from Ciudad Juarez around 6:30 p.m. Monday.

One suspected illegal immigrant was detained on the levee on the U.S. side, the FBI said in a statement. Another Border Patrol agent arrived on the concrete bank where the now-dry, 33-foot (10-meter) wide Rio Grande is, and detained a second person. Other suspects ran back into Mexico and began throwing rocks, the FBI said.

At least one rock came from behind the agent, who was kneeling beside a suspected illegal immigrant whom he had prone on the ground, FBI spokeswoman Andrea Simmons said.

The agent told the rock throwers to stop and back off, but they continued. The agent fired his weapon several times, hitting one who later died, said the FBI, which is leading the investigation because it involved an assault on a federal officer. The agent was not injured, Simmons said.

Chihuahua state officials released a statement demanding a full investigation into the death.

The boy was shot once near the eye, Sandoval said. Authorities were still investigating the bullet's trajectory, he said.

Sandoval said he couldn't comment on the video reported by the U.S. official because he didn't know anything about it. "I am unaware about those hypotheses," he said.

Sandoval said Mexican investigators were questioning three teenagers who were with the victim at the time of the shooting.

The boy's sister, Rosario, told Associated Press Television News that her brother was playing with several friends and did not plan to cross the border.

"They say that they started firing from over there and suddenly hit him in the head," she said.

The boy's mother said he had gone to eat with his brother, who handles luggage at a border customs office. While there, he met up with a group of friends and they decided to hang out by the river, she said.

"That was his mistake, to have gone to the river," she said in an interview with Mexico's Milenio TV. "That's why they killed him."

Mexico's Foreign Relations Department said its records indicate the number of Mexicans killed or wounded by U.S. immigration authorities rose from five in 2008 to 12 in 2009 to 17 so far this year, which is not half over.

T.J. Bonner, president of the union representing Border Patrol agents, said rock throwing aimed at Border Patrol agents is common and capable of causing serious injury.

"It is a deadly force encounter, one that justifies the use of deadly force," Bonner said.

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Thier Seething because he was firing in self defense.

So these mexicans are pissed because this kid and some of his buddies were trying to stone our border patrol guys, and they finally had enough and fought back?

I'm getting so sick of Mexicans and thier hypocritcal ways.

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Thier Seething because he was firing in self defense.

So these mexicans are pissed because this kid and some of his buddies were trying to stone our border patrol guys, and they finally had enough and fought back?

I'm getting so sick of Mexicans and their hypocritical ways.

x2, the Mexican citizens are just following the examples set by their president.

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Ask any immigrant crossing into Mexico from Central America what happens to them on a regular basis, not from citizens but from the local police. They are routinely beaten, robbed, raped, and THEN thrown into jail before they are deported. Hypocritical bunch of thugs.

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Ask any immigrant crossing into Mexico from Central America what happens to them on a regular basis, not from citizens but from the local police. They are routinely beaten, robbed, raped, and THEN thrown into jail before they are deported. Hypocritical bunch of thugs.

I've pointed this out before on here.

And the darker the immigrant, the harder the sentencing and beating.

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I like how Eastwood has just said "F__K Hollywood" and is making movies he wants to make. Too bad Gran Torino was snubbed at the Oscars.

U.S. authorities said Tuesday a Border Patrol agent was defending himself and colleagues when he fatally shot the 15-year-old as officers came under a barrage of big stones while trying to detain illegal immigrants on the U.S. side of the Rio Grande.

Uh, don't give a **** about the rock-throwing brat..

More guys like this on the border, please.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQ6cCPbA8jo

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I'm all for Boarder Patrol agents protecting themselves. But I do wonder about the necessity of shooting at someone who is throwing rocks. It doesn't sound like they were swarming the agents and threatening their lives to me. Possibly a couple of well placed warning shots would have sufficed?

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I'm all for Boarder Patrol agents protecting themselves. But I do wonder about the necessity of shooting at someone who is throwing rocks. It doesn't sound like they were swarming the agents and threatening their lives to me. Possibly a couple of well placed warning shots would have sufficed?

"A barrage of big stones" doesn't exactly sound like little pebbles being chucked. And from what I've read, those patrols are usually always outnumbered by a bunch of illegals the majority of the time and they get braver and braver each time they encounter said patrols.

I'm guessing in a high-stress situation that a warning shot wouldn't have done much.

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I'm all for Boarder Patrol agents protecting themselves. But I do wonder about the necessity of shooting at someone who is throwing rocks. It doesn't sound like they were swarming the agents and threatening their lives to me. Possibly a couple of well placed warning shots would have sufficed?

Logic and common sense should transcend borders. Don't throw a ******* rock at people with guns.

It sounds heartless, but if you're fifteen years old and don't know that, then you probably weren't meant to live a long, stupid life.

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Xnex, the story has been cherry picked. I read elsewhere that the agent DID fire warning shots!

I'm all for Boarder Patrol agents protecting themselves. But I do wonder about the necessity of shooting at someone who is throwing rocks. It doesn't sound like they were swarming the agents and threatening their lives to me. Possibly a couple of well placed warning shots would have sufficed?

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I'm all for Boarder Patrol agents protecting themselves. But I do wonder about the necessity of shooting at someone who is throwing rocks. It doesn't sound like they were swarming the agents and threatening their lives to me. Possibly a couple of well placed warning shots would have sufficed?

Yes but one rock could've very well hit the dude in the head and knocked him unconcious, Or busted his head completely open. You gotta remember during bibical times people were killed by stoning. IE having rocks thrown at them.

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Now just settle down folks.........we all know we have a lame azz government that won't do anything us Americans citizens want them to do........GW did nothing......Obama calls it racism.....Eric Holder might file criminal charges against any state that takes a stand.

Good luck to that BP agent that couldn't take it anymore.........he has no friends in Washington.

Caulderon comes to America....publicly bashes us Americans........standing elbow to elbow with our Marxist president, who's in agreement with the Mexican Dictator, and clearly shows he hates America and it's legendary Constitution.

Get ready my friends......this nonsense is not accepted, and won't be tolerated!!

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"A barrage of big stones" doesn't exactly sound like little pebbles being chucked. And from what I've read, those patrols are usually always outnumbered by a bunch of illegals the majority of the time and they get braver and braver each time they encounter said patrols.

I'm guessing in a high-stress situation that a warning shot wouldn't have done much.

I don't question that the job and the situations are very high stress. Again, I'm all for the agents protecting themselves. But how large could the stones have been if they were being thrown? And how far could a person throw a really big stone? The death may have been necessary; I can't say otherwise with any certainty. But I hope it was truly justified, because that agent ended the life of a 15 year old boy.

As for common sense transcending boarders; well it's very easy to say it when it isn't you that's involved in the situation. If there was room for this situation to be handled in another way, without causing death, then I believe strongly that things should have gone another way.

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I don't question that the job and the situations are very high stress. Again, I'm all for the agents protecting themselves. But how large could the stones have been if they were being thrown? And how far could a person throw a really big stone? The death may have been necessary; I can't say otherwise with any certainty. But I hope it was truly justified, because that agent ended the life of a 15 year old boy.

As for common sense transcending boarders; well it's very easy to say it when it isn't you that's involved in the situation. If there was room for this situation to be handled in another way, without causing death, then I believe strongly that things should have gone another way.

Yet you are doing the same thing.

I say: Don't throw stones at people with guns.

You say: But how big were the stones?

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Now, I sure as he ll don't agree with the President being a Marxist (he's a Corporatist), and some of the other stuff that you typed, but I am sure as he ll tired of the coddling of these illegal immigrants and the Mexican government. Sad that this kid had to die, but he has to share blame too! Mind if I vent for a while????????????

What is it about these illegal azz immigrants that makes people take a hands off approach towards them? What burns me (and has for years) is that the Police (and others) will not hesitate to lock up brothers over stupid stuff, make them do a bid (and don't give a da mn about separating them from their families), but we don't do anything about these illegals that break the law, and flaunt it too (hello, you are ILLEGAL)??? The only thing about the Arizona law that concerns me is that it puts us on a slippery slope (meaning (I think) it can be expanded to include "others"), but otherwise, I agree with them 100%. I know a lot of others do too, that is why no one is really up in arms over it! People are mad at the Arizona law, but Prince William County in VA has been doing this for at least two years, and a lot of these illegals promptly ran to Montgomery County, MD (Takoma Park is a sanctuary)! angry.gif Want to know the reason why Prince William County took this action, because these illegals were busting the he ll out of the county budget. Guess what is about to happen here in Montgomery County? Budget cuts are coming! Montgomery County is VERY prosperous, and extremely generous with entitlements! Deadbeats and illegals alike feed at the trough, and to make up for reduced tax revenue, the county (I will say again, one of the most prosperous in the nation) is about to lay off teachers and cut services (but no mention of booting these illegals out and cutting off the entitlement tap)! We cannot afford to house these illegals, BUT if your azz want to come and work, get an H1B and go home when you're done. I'm tired, a lot of others are too! Stop treating these illegals with kid gloves, enforce the laws already on the books, give a middle finger to Calderon (and tell him to fix his own da mn country), and send these illegal packing. Rant off!

Sorry folks, I'm just tired, and today is a bad day, but this is how I REALLY feel. You can't break the law and pull yourself up at my expense!

Edit: forgive me for my spelling errors!!!

Now just settle down folks.........we all know we have a lame azz government that won't do anything us Americans citizens want them to do........GW did nothing......Obama calls it racism.....Eric Holder might file criminal charges against any state that takes a stand.

Good luck to that BP agent that couldn't take it anymore.........he has no friends in Washington.

Caulderon comes to America....publicly bashes us Americans........standing elbow to elbow with our Marxist president, who's in agreement with the Mexican Dictator, and clearly shows he hates America and it's legendary Constitution.

Get ready my friends......this nonsense is not accepted, and won't be tolerated!!

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Yet you are doing the same thing.

I say: Don't throw stones at people with guns.

You say: But how big were the stones?

What do you mean "I'm doing the same thing".

And while your logic of not throwing stones at people with guns really cannot be challenged, I say that people in positions of authority, with the ability to end other people's lives need to have some ability to think and reason about things. Killing another human being is easily the most heinous(sp) thing a person can do. Before doing it, the person with the gun needs to fully understand the threat he is facing. That may be the case here; his life may have been in imminent(sp... again) danger. Considering what he did to that kid, and to his family, his life certainly should have been in real danger.

And as far as me questioning the size of the stones involved; I think it makes perfect sense. Supposedly they were on opposite sides of the boarder. If you or anyone with normal strength were to pick up a large rock, and throw it how far do you think you could throw it and be a danger, not simply a nuisance to someone else? And if someone were to throw a rock at you from some distance, and you had a gun wouldn't it be fairly easy to pop off a couple of warning shots in their general direction.

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Now, I sure as he ll don't agree with the President being a Marxist (he's a Corporatist), and some of the other stuff that you typed, but I am sure as he ll tired of the coddling of these illegal immigrants and the Mexican government. sad that this kid had to die, but he share blame too! Mind if I vent for a while????????????

What is it about these illegal azz immigrants that makes people take a hands off approach towards them? What burns me (and has for years) is that the Police (and others) will not hesitate to lock up brothers over stupid stuff, make them do a bid (and don't give a da mn about separating them from their families), but we don't do anything about these illegals that break the law, and flaunt it too (hello, you are ILLEGAL)??? The only thing about the Arizona law that concerns me is that it puts us on a slippery slope (meaning (I think) it can be expanded to include "others"), but otherwise, I agree with them 100%. I know a lot of others do too, that is why no one is really up in arms over it! People are mad at the Arizona law, but Prince William County in VA has been doing this for at least two years, and a lot of these illegals promply ran to Montgomery County, MD (Takoma Park is a sanctuary)! angry.gif Want to know the reason why Prince William County took this action, because these illegals were busting the he ll out of the county budget. Guess what is about to happen here in Montgomery County? Budget cuts are coming! Montgomery County is VERY properous, and extremely generous with entitlements! Deabeats and illegals alike feed at the trough, and to make up for reduced tax revenue, the county (I will say again, one of the most properous in the nation) is about to lay off teachers and cut services (but no mention of booting these illegals out) and cutting off the entitlement tap! We cannot afford to house these illegals, BUT if your azz want to come and work, get an H1B and go home when you're done. I'm tired, a lot of others are too! Stop treating these illegal with kid gloves, enforce the laws already on the books, give a middle finger to Calderon (and tell him to fix his own da mn contry), and send these illegal packing. Rant off!

Sorry folks, I'm just tired, and today is a bad day, but this is how I REALLY feel. You can't break the law and pull yourself up at my expense!

Bro'...the only true Americans in this country are the American Indians/Whites/Blacks.....those 3 cultures stand as one, and we are a threatened species....

We all love our country, work hard, and respect our laws.......With that, we must unite and fight this infiltration of illegals that have no loyalty to any country......Nomads is what they are.........I've said this before.

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