atljbo Posted May 14, 2010 Share Posted May 14, 2010 All of these players are UFA after this year....T/G Tyson Clabo G Harvey Dahl G Justin BlalockRB Jerious NorwoodRB Jason Snelling LB Stephen Nicholas P Michael KoenenI know this year will be big year in determining who earns that contract extension..... A couple of things tho.This is why drafting 2 O-Lineman (Mike Johnson and Joe Hawley) make sense... Mike Johnson is a future LG and Joe Hawley is a C/G... If we need to... We could play Hawley at Guard...The Average starting Guard makes 5 - 7 million a year..... The Average starting RT makes 6-8 million.... So drafting 3 O-Lineman in the last 2 drafts ( Mike Johnson,Garret Reynolds, and Joe Hawley) ... This is why teams like Philly and the Patriots have great teams but still have a boatload of cap room... They draft players for the future but also extend player's contracts at a friendly price.... If the player ask for to much...They have their replacement already on the team...So who would you resign and what would the contract look like ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Statick Posted May 14, 2010 Share Posted May 14, 2010 All of these players are UFA after this year....G Tyson Clabo G Harvey Dahl G Justin BlalockRB Jerious NorwoodRB Jason Snelling LB Stephen Nicholas P Michael KoenenSo who would you resign and what would the contract look like ?Everybody except for Norwood and possibly Blalock.As for contract numbers, I can't say since I suck at cap figures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesus Posted May 14, 2010 Share Posted May 14, 2010 I wonder why we don't lock up Koenen long term? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freebird587 Posted May 14, 2010 Share Posted May 14, 2010 im thinking dahl and koenendahl for the leadership and toughnesskoenen because hes the most underrated punter in the league,and dont think it will cost much to keep him but,he does deserve a raise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hakim24 Posted May 14, 2010 Share Posted May 14, 2010 Tyson Clabo should be resigned to play G. His versatility to play OT is what keeps him here over Dahl imo.It is a toss up between Blalock and Dahl. I think it will be whoever comes the cheapest. In the end, I think it will be Dahl who gets resigned because of the way he plays. Norwood is a toss up. His market value may be too high too keep him here. Nicholas will resign for about 2-3 mil a year and will remain the starter with Lofton and Weatherspoon.Snelling is probably let go.Koenen is probably gone too if his value is too high. In the end, I my gut tells me we will keep Clabo, Dahl, Norwood, and Nicholas. One thing to consider though is that TD has shown that he will extend contracts in the middle of the season. That could be a huge factor if the player really wants to stay here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaymadd Posted May 14, 2010 Share Posted May 14, 2010 Either Clabo, Dahl or Blaylock as far as the olineman go, I dont think we will sign no more than 1 especially if your rookies progress and Reynolds can take over at RT.I dont think we will resign Norwood if Antione Smith shows he is a player, I also think that Snelling will probably be looking for greener pastures after this year.I do think that if NIcholas improves on his play from last year, he will be resigned. So I am guessing probably two no more than 4 of that list, if our rookies progress as expected of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-dawg Posted May 14, 2010 Share Posted May 14, 2010 Clabo, Nicholas, Snelling and perhaps Koenan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ConnFalcon Posted May 14, 2010 Share Posted May 14, 2010 (edited) Everybody except for Norwood and possibly Blalock.As for contract numbers, I can't say since I suck at cap figures.I agree, execept with Snelling. I would love to have him here, but I think he will go somewhere else for a better opportunity to start. Edited May 14, 2010 by ConnFalcon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phattywankenobi Posted May 14, 2010 Share Posted May 14, 2010 Definitely Koenen and Snelling. We'll see on Norwood if he is productive in Mularkey's system. As for the line guys...may the best men win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norwood all the way! Posted May 14, 2010 Share Posted May 14, 2010 Norwood will prob get the door as much as it pains me to say it. Snelling has more of a chance of getting resigned. Dahl is the most likely out of the Oline to be resigned i think. it really depends on how well the rookies progress through training camp and the season. but we should really resign Koenen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atljbo Posted May 14, 2010 Author Share Posted May 14, 2010 Let me say this... If we dont sign Blalock... McKay should go down as one of the worst GM's in falcon history....Dude would have wasted 3 picks in the first 41 picks in the 2007 draft.... Do you know how crazy ridiculous that is... All 3 of those picks are like 1st round picks.... I know we thought that was a great draft when it happened but WOW.... If we let Blalock walk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Don™ Posted May 14, 2010 Share Posted May 14, 2010 Let me say this... If we dont sign Blalock... McKay should go down as one of the worst GM's in falcon history....Dude would have wasted 3 picks in the first 41 picks in the 2007 draft.... Do you know how crazy ridiculous that is... All 3 of those picks are like 1st round picks.... I know we thought that was a great draft when it happened but WOW.... If we let Blalock walk.I'll say this. Coach Smith mentioned Harvey Dahl as one of the leaders on the offense for YEARS to come at the State of the Franchise. That tells me that Dahl is most likely going to be resigned.For Blalock's sake, Mike Johnson is a future LG(trust me). I think they will let Blalock walk...Sidenote: Joe Hawley is most likely "the guy" after Todd leaves. TD has said this numerous times... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDaddyFalcon21 Posted May 14, 2010 Share Posted May 14, 2010 Let me say this... If we dont sign Blalock... McKay should go down as one of the worst GM's in falcon history....Dude would have wasted 3 picks in the first 41 picks in the 2007 draft.... Do you know how crazy ridiculous that is... All 3 of those picks are like 1st round picks.... I know we thought that was a great draft when it happened but WOW.... If we let Blalock walk.you know im thinking he might be the worst gm we've had...he's a nice guy and all but doesnt seem to know talent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted May 14, 2010 Share Posted May 14, 2010 All of these players are UFA after this year....So who would you resign and what would the contract look like ? Well, one of the big questions is who will draw the most interest from other teams. The FO would have kept Foxworth last year, if Baltimore had'nt thought so highly of him. I think the Falcons would love to keep Snelling, but you are going to see a lot of interest from other teams in him. So that is a big question mark. If they make a QO to Norwood, they may be stuck with him instead. Not optimal as far as I'm concerned. On the OL, Clabo and Blalock will draw the most interest, because of Blalock's age and the fact that Clabo is a year younger than Dahl and can play both RT/RG. So again, we may be left with Dahl, which is ok by me. I am not sure how other teams view Nicholas, I would suspect he has value, does everything well but nothing spectacular. Think the Falcons will pay to keep him, since they are not going to want to spend another high draft pick on the LBer position. Have no idea about Koenen, hope they can sign him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millenium falcon Posted May 14, 2010 Share Posted May 14, 2010 T/G Tyson ClaboG Harvey Dahl RB Jason Snelling P Michael Koenenthese are the 4 i would try to re-sign before seasons end like with jenkins and babinaux. the rest are being replaced. we could have the same starting OL for one more year, but next year, johnson and hawley could start for blalock and mcclure who likely wont be offered anything. they seem to like dahl and clabo together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atljbo Posted May 14, 2010 Author Share Posted May 14, 2010 I'll say this. Coach Smith mentioned Harvey Dahl as one of the leaders on the offense for YEARS to come at the State of the Franchise. That tells me that Dahl is most likely going to be resigned.For Blalock's sake, Mike Johnson is a future LG(trust me). I think they will let Blalock walk...Sidenote: Joe Hawley is most likely "the guy" after Todd leaves. TD has said this numerous times...Yea... I havnt seen the State of the Franchise yet.I know Joe Hawley is McClure future replacement but if we cant sign Dahl or Blalock.... I can see Hawley playing guard for a year (thats what the steelers are doing with Pouncey)We will sign one of them tho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scantless Posted May 14, 2010 Share Posted May 14, 2010 I say just offer reasonable, appropriate contracts that reflect their value to the team. Let the chips fall where they may. TommyD can fill anyone's shoes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
takeitdown Posted May 14, 2010 Share Posted May 14, 2010 If we let too many OL walk, we'll be in the position next draft of taking two more mid rounders for depth.I'd think we keep Clabo (to play RG or RT in a pinch) and one of the other guards, Nicholas, and one of the RBs (which ever is cheaper/not injured.)We'll grab a RB in the draft to replace whoever departed. My guess would be they keep Dahl, Clabo, Nicholas, and Snelling (though I could see Norwood, or neither staying. Backs just aren't that hard to replace).So, we'll need to replace 1 RB, a punter, 1 guard, as well as an aging DE, aging TE, RT upgrade and WR upgrade. That's if everything just goes as expected. As always, the FO will have their work cut out for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durrty Posted May 14, 2010 Share Posted May 14, 2010 I think when it comes to Koenen, there's a strong possibility we won't re-sign him. We have the UDFA with the big leg, Lindholm is it??? If he impresses, then I can see us letting Koenen walk along with Blalock, Clabo, and Norwood. If Snelling has a "6th man-type" of performance this year, then I'm sure we'll let him go for compensation as well. We can always pickup a solid RB in the draft to backup Turner. Everybody else remains a Falcon.Hey atljbo, it seems that we're going to be in good position to receive a few comp picks next year...four sounds good! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Talon Posted May 15, 2010 Share Posted May 15, 2010 Looks like we will be getting several compensatory in 2012. That's something to think about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atljbo Posted May 15, 2010 Author Share Posted May 15, 2010 Hey atljbo, it seems that we're going to be in good position to receive a few comp picks next year...four sounds good!Not next year but the 2012 draft.... But yea... Depending on the contracts they receive... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bossFALCON™ Posted May 15, 2010 Share Posted May 15, 2010 All of these players are UFA after this year....T/G Tyson Clabo - RESIGN. only at the right price though. G Harvey Dahl - RESIGN. he's not the most talented and actually i think clabo has more upside but he will probably be the leader of this oline once mcclure leads. he brings nastiness to our offense.G Justin Blalock - RELEASE. i really like blalock and he has shown flashes, but if you made me choose between him and johnson, i'd probably go with johnson because IMO he has more upside and he will be a very solid player at the least. blalock is a little on the inconsistent side.RB Jerious Norwood - ???. norwood is a big question mark. if he can stay healthy this year bring him back, but if he can't then i think we should insert smith when he's hurt and see what he can do. if he can make a similar impact then we should let norwood walk. he's getting older as well.RB Jason Snelling - RESIGN. very versatile and while he isn't the best back he has upside and he also is a hard worker blue collar type guy.LB Stephen Nicholas - RESIGN. nick showed upside last year and is one of our best pass rusher PERIOD. he's demonstrated he could create pressure at DE and at OLB. at the worst he could be a situational rusher type. a poor man's orakpoP Michael Koenen - RESIGN. koenan is the first and only punter i actually like. he's versatile as heck and is really good at everything he does. he's the man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Posted May 15, 2010 Share Posted May 15, 2010 One thing to take into consideration, if we do extremely well this year, these guys may not want to go anywhere. A ring may mean more than the money. As a result, it's possible we can get more of them for reasonable contracts & be well under the cap still & have room to actually play with too.Clabo is a big guy, plays both RT & RG very well, & fits the TD/Smitty mold. I think we re-sign him.Dahl was already called out by Smitty as a team leader for hopefully years to come, so it's a safe bet they will pay him what it takes to keep him & he re-signs.Blalock's replacement was drafted this year. He will have to accept much less than I'm sure he wants to stay with us. I think he goes, Johnson starts at LG next year, & we draft another OG in top 5 picks for depth.Norwood is a toss up IMO. If he doesn't get injured, plays in every game, averages 6 YPC, & is a big part of our success this year, we re-sign him. If it's the opposite, we let him go. I think because it's a contract year for him though, we're going to see some special things & he's going to blow it up this year. I do think Antone Smith could be a sleeper that slides into this position though if Norwood goes the injury route & misses games. Smith looked incredible in minicamp.Snelling I think above anyone else is definitely gone. He's going to want too much. His agent is going to talk him into believing he should be a #1 RB on another team & that if he were he'd be wracking up 1000 yard seasons & making millions. This is what agents do. And I'm pretty certain the Falcons will not pay him what he asks for.Nicholas is guaranteed re-sign IMO. The FO values him highly. They have developed him & obviously have faith in him as a starter. He's got all the tools & has gotten better every year. Especially with Peterson gone after this season & Wire aging, they can't afford to lose 2 big pieces of the LB core & require depth players to step up & risk a likely dropoff in productivity.Keonan they might re-sign. He's got a good gig here. Already making $2.5M/year, which is very respectable for a punter/kickoff specialist. He's not going to get much more in an extension so there won't be a big hit towards the cap. HOWEVER, if Linholm makes the team & would then likely takeover the kickoff job, Keonen's value to us may drop & there's a chance we don't re-sign him. I do believe he is extremely valuable to us as just a punter though too. Dude is way consistent & can boom some punts. This is rediculously important so my gut says we re-sign him either way.So for me, everyone but Blalock & Snelling stay. I think Reynolds, Valdez, Johnson, Hawley, McClure, Baker, Dahl, & Clabo would still be an incredible OL in 2011. And I still think our #1 pick next year will be another OT rather than DE & we grab another OG high in the draft too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I.C. REDD Posted May 15, 2010 Share Posted May 15, 2010 Resign all our O-line except Okinaja. He's about as sorry as Wayne Gandy was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
84White32Quizz Posted May 15, 2010 Share Posted May 15, 2010 All of these players are UFA after this year....T/G Tyson Clabo G Harvey Dahl G Justin BlalockRB Jerious NorwoodRB Jason Snelling LB Stephen Nicholas P Michael KoenenWell I think Snelling will be signed but as valuable as he is to the team if he has another productive solid year then I think we resign him and see if anyone is willing to trade for him, if nobody comes calling well we jsut resigned a valuable guy, I think the same goes with Wood. I would think that we give both of these guys 2 year contracts and either trade them, or cut them after a year if we have someone ready to take one of their jobs.I also think we resign Nic for 3 years. And I hope in 2 years Spencer Adkins is ready to start( might be wishful thinking), because 2 years from now I thik Spoon will be able to move from WLB to SLB.I think after what Coach Smith said at the State of the Franchise thing that Harvey will be the o-lineman we keep out of the 3. Baker Johnson Hawley Dahl Reynolds in 2011.And the final guy is Koenen, unless he wants a crazy amount of money but I dont think that will be the case. Now I have no clue if we can afford 5 of the 7 but I think Snelling has good trade value and we should trade him if we can, I mean how many 7th rd picks have turned into 3rd or 4th rd picks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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