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Was Center Joe Hawley a Good Pick in 4th Rd?

9:29 pm May 4, 2010, by Dawson Devitt (D3)

Many Panned the Pick

If fans lost their marbles when the Atlanta Falcons selected defensive tackle Corey Peters in the 3rd round, they may have launched their remotes towards their TVs when the Falcons selected UNLV Center Joe Hawley in the fourth round. It was pretty much common knowledge that the Falcons were going to address center at some point throughout the draft, and the round probably wasn’t that shocking, just who they took. The Falcons top brass worked out several centers with their private workouts including JD Walton, Matt Tennant, Ted Larsen, and Joe Hawley. Walton was selected in the 3rd round by the Denver Broncos and it was thought by many that the Birds were zeroed in on Tennant, who was Matt Ryan’s center his senior year at Boston College. Thomas Dimitroff not only passed over Tennant, but also voted no on several other centers that were reportedly ranked higher according to draft “experts” including Eric Olsen and Ted Larsen.

Rated Low

Even though draft ratings are scattered all over the map and they probably hold little value to teams, most sites had Hawley slotted to go in the later rounds, perhaps around the 6th or 7th round and has one of the lower overall draft value ratings. NFLDraftScout had Hawley as their 6th best center and DraftCountdown had him as their 5th best center. Most fans were a little upset at this pick because they thought that Hawley could have certainly been nabbed with one of their 5th or 6th round picks, and should have taken some of the bigger names left on the board. With such a deep draft, there were a ton of names left at that point including OLB AJ Edds, OLB Eric Norwood, TE Clay Harbour, CB Akwasi Owusu-Ansah, and DE Austen Lane to name just a few. Hawley received one of the lowest grade ratings with a 2.0 from NFL.com, when most of the players around him ranked anywhere between 5 and 7 grade ratings.

Good Versatility (unlvrebels.com)

The talk of grades and draft ratings leads perfectly into the next point about the Falcons top brass, and many other teams for that matter, complete lack of regard for what the draft “experts” have to say. How many can’t miss prospects become exactly that only a few short years later. Anywhere from QB Jamarcus Russell to our very own DE Jamaal Anderson. The draft experts may get paid to evaluate players on the surface, but they have no bearing on how teams assess their players and particularly how certain athletes fit into schemes, which makes up so much of teams and their respective success.

Perfect Mold of a Falcons OL

Regardless of what the draft experts say, Thomas Dimitroff has and will always draft on what he and his scouts believe to be the best fit and potential for the long haul, not just a splash in the draft. If any player fits the mold of what the Falcons are looking for in an offensive lineman, Joe Hawley is that man. The UNLV center is very good in pass protection with a strong punch and picks up extra defenders very well. Most well known as a “mauler who can drive 3 techniques into the ground and possesses one of the nastiest streaks of any player in the draft” according to NFLDraftScout. A tough and mean football player with a non-stop motor. Perhaps the best reason that Dimitroff and Co. took Hawley comes once more from NFLDraftScout, “with a little coaching and improvement in his technique, he could have a long NFL career.”

How Much Longer Will McClure Go? (atlantafalcons.com)

Even though its obvious the reason the Falcons selected a center, Todd McClure is still on the top of his game at the young age of 33. It is true that McClure could retire at any time, but offensive lineman have shown they can play a good bit longer at a top level than some other positions (consistent All-Pro Center Kevin Mawae is 39 and still playing). McClure is one of the more underrated centers in the NFL and is by far and away the captain of the offensive line. McClure’s ranks according to ProFootballFocus.com:

Overall Center Rating

Todd McClure – 10th (10.3 score)

Top Rating – Nick Mangold (31.8) – By far and away the best rated center because the second rated center has a score of 18.5.

Pass Block Rating

Todd McClure – 7th (3.8)

Top Rating – Jeff Saturday (8.9)

Run Block Rating

Todd McClure – 9th (9.0)

Top Rating – Nick Mangold (29.3); Second – Andre Gurode (17.7)

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How does the ranking work?

McClure is 7th against the run and 9th against the pass but 10th over all? That does not compute. There must be another number missing.

I would think different numbers for each section added together.

Example emphasized to show disparity: 7th against the run = 15 points, 9th against the pass = 50 points.

With another player or two 10th against the run = 12 points, and 7th against the pass = 65 points.

Something like that, but there is likely a small disparity between 10th overall and 8th overall/12th overall, probably down to a point or two.

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How does the ranking work?

McClure is 7th against the run and 9th against the pass but 10th over all? That does not compute. There must be another number missing.

It's the 'Phantom' numbers given to players that play for Dallas, New England and Indy.

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Im okay with Hawley as our 4th round pick, he wasnt highly rated but who cares The so called experts miss on alot of guys -I trust TD because he knows our team better than any of the outsiders. If we hadnt taken Spoon in the first- I may have been scratvhing my head at picking Hawley over Norwood and Edds especially when he would have been there in the 5th /6th.

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hawleys combine #'s were impressive, and in many area's, the top rank amoung OC's.

6-2 5/8, 297, 33 1/8 arms(T 3rd), 10 5/8 hands(1st), 5.18 40(2nd), 35 reps(T 1st), 7.50 cone(T 1st), 8'-9" broad jump.(1st by 4")

he is clearly a pretty strong, athletic, and explosive player and has commonly been deemed a nasty player whicch we love here. the fact that we are a combination of zone and man blocking says we need special OL. one dimensional guys are what you get in rd 5 and 6. he was worth the 4th rd pick. i bet he is better than the people he was drafted ahead of, and maybe walton who was drafted ahead of him as well. i think he is the future starter and maybe as soon as 2011.

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This is what these so called draft experts don't do is all the in depth scouting that our scouts do and I'm fully behind TD and MS with this pick there has to be a reason why they took this guy over more established ranked Centre's.They must see something in this guy that projects him as a better player over time than those 4 guys ranked ahead of him.

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Is Hawley a good fit for the team ?

Lets count the ways shall we.

1 He is a Big ol White Boi with a Beard

2 He is a big ol white boi with a Beard and is an offensive lineman.

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3 He is a big ol white boi with a beard and is an offensive lineman with a big ol nasty streak. biggrin.gif

It's the 'Phantom' numbers given to players that play for Dallas, New England and Indy.

LOL...

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3 He is a big ol white boi with a beard and is an offensive lineman with a big ol nasty streak. biggrin.gif

LOL...

Thats one thing TD has really getting in the O-line is the road grader HAWGS type players, 6 f 5 and above. I love it, I got so tired of Alex Gibbs munchkins and him starving them too and also the stupid no talking rule. Since TD has been here we got a o-line we can be proud of. :P I liked us being the best running team when Gibbs was here but we could never pass block worth a dayum. :unsure:

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Mawae is 39 and wants to keep playing, but doesn't have a gig at the moment. One of the few Georgia natives who MB members are clamoring to sign.

Mawae is a Georgia native? :huh: :blink: :huh:

never heard that before....is this true? :unsure:

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