d#d#d# Posted May 5, 2010 Share Posted May 5, 2010 The 2007 draft started off promising, and the promise ended with the Falcons 1st round pick. Fast forward to 2010, the 49'ers are signing their first round pick to a 5 year/50M contract whilst our first round pick is struggling to make the roster. The 49'ers drafted an explosive, playmaking presence in the middle with great intangibles whilst we drafted one of the biggest DE busts of all time...McKay was a sloppy GM at best. He made some decent draft picks for us but also made some horrible picks as above. His free agent signings were abysmal to say the least...Im so glad we have a GM now who dots his i's and crosses his t's... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtlantaFalconPokerPro Posted May 5, 2010 Share Posted May 5, 2010 I don't get the title Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d#d#d# Posted May 5, 2010 Author Share Posted May 5, 2010 I don't get the title :blink: Whats there to get? The slap in the face is that they are re signing a prolific talent while our FO is most likely looking to cut the guy we took 3 picks before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benny Posted May 5, 2010 Share Posted May 5, 2010 how is that a slap in the face? this happens to every team not just the Falcons. some people just never live up to their high pick while others picked after them play lights out, we just happened to make a bad pick. i dont view the 49ers drafting a beast and liking him enough to give him more money a personal slap in the face to the Falcons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vabchbirdlover Posted May 5, 2010 Share Posted May 5, 2010 (edited) What :blink: Who slapped Rich in the face? You know the old adage - Hindsight is 20/20, Believe if MCkay knew how much of a "disappointment" that Jamaal has become, doncha think P. Willis or someone else might be donning a FALCON UNI? Edited May 5, 2010 by vabchbirdlover Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peyton Posted May 5, 2010 Share Posted May 5, 2010 Busts happen to every GM. Rich McKay was a good GM who had some bad luck. It's not like people thought Jamaal Anderson was a reach in 2007, he got drafted right wbout where people thought he would go. He just turned out to be a lazy player.The worst thing that McKay did was sign Vick to that contract, but that is bridge under the water now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vabchbirdlover Posted May 5, 2010 Share Posted May 5, 2010 Busts happen to every GM. Rich McKay was a good GM who had some bad luck. It's not like people thought Jamaal Anderson was a reach in 2007, he got drafted right wbout where people thought he would go. He just turned out to be a lazy player.The worst thing that McKay did was sign Vick to that contract, but that is bridge under the water now.Or maybe water under the bridge :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d#d#d# Posted May 5, 2010 Author Share Posted May 5, 2010 What :blink: Who slapped Rich in the face? You know the old adage - Hindsight is 20/20, Believe if MCkay knew how much of a "disappointment" that Jamaal has become, doncha think P. Willis or someone else might be donning a FALCON UNI?The 20/20 hindsight argument is horrible. The guy didnt even work Jamaal out, so i dont know if he ever had grasp on Andersons talent. We let Kerney go, reached for need and were burnt. Simple really... Keith Brooking was never a good MLB and please dont bring up pro bowls lol What a joke they are...Busts happen to every GM. Rich McKay was a good GM who had some bad luck. It's not like people thought Jamaal Anderson was a reach in 2007, he got drafted right wbout where people thought he would go. He just turned out to be a lazy player.The worst thing that McKay did was sign Vick to that contract, but that is bridge under the water now.I disagree. I think McKay was a terrible GM... His free agent signings are some of the most horrible on record, he gave Vick that monstrosity of a contract way before he deserved it and couldnt hire a decent HC to save his life. The Petrino saga rightfully ended his time as GM here.His draft history was so-so, as he was to eager to give up 1st round picks for players from other teams...No doubt everyone is over the fact JA98 is a bust, me included. Its things like this that come back to slap you in face and remind you of it lol We could of drafted a guy who is most likely going to the HOF after his career(barring injury)instead we are actively looking for the guy we drafted replacement...We had a big need at MLB in 2007 and i remember atleast 50% of the draft and free agency forum wanting him that year... What could of been if McKay had gone for BPA... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d#d#d# Posted May 5, 2010 Author Share Posted May 5, 2010 Or maybe water under the bridge :PYeah, thats more like it...Just dont drink that water lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtybird404 Posted May 5, 2010 Share Posted May 5, 2010 Wow Keith brooking was never a good MLB??? Oh right cuz I forgot they select all the worst people to go to the pro bowl. And the super bowl consists of the two worsts teams. And winning is a bad thing. And I'm Osama bin Laden. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peyton Posted May 5, 2010 Share Posted May 5, 2010 Or maybe water under the bridge :PLOL yeah well it's early. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominique is Manufique Posted May 5, 2010 Share Posted May 5, 2010 The 20/20 hindsight argument is horrible. The guy didnt even work Jamaal out, so i dont know if he ever had grasp on Andersons talent. We let Kerney go, reached for need and were burnt. Simple really... Keith Brooking was never a good MLB and please dont bring up pro bowls lol What a joke they are...I disagree. I think McKay was a terrible GM... His free agent signings are some of the most horrible on record, he gave Vick that monstrosity of a contract way before he deserved it and couldnt hire a decent HC to save his life. The Petrino saga rightfully ended his time as GM here.His draft history was so-so, as he was to eager to give up 1st round picks for players from other teams...No doubt everyone is over the fact JA98 is a bust, me included. Its things like this that come back to slap you in face and remind you of it lol We could of drafted a guy who is most likely going to the HOF after his career(barring injury)instead we are actively looking for the guy we drafted replacement...We had a big need at MLB in 2007 and i remember atleast 50% of the draft and free agency forum wanting him that year... What could of been if McKay had gone for BPA...so is every other team that didn't resign their 1st round pick in 2007 getting slapped in the face too? this argument is a reach. yawn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DUB Posted May 5, 2010 Share Posted May 5, 2010 how is that a slap in the face? this happens to every team not just the Falcons. some people just never live up to their high pick while others picked after them play lights out, we just happened to make a bad pick. i dont view the 49ers drafting a beast and liking him enough to give him more money a personal slap in the face to the Falcons.I'll have to agree with the thread starter.....you can talk all that NOW we know crap all you want. Patrick Willis was pretty much one of those players you KNEW was going to make some noise. McKay's logic was we have Keith Brooking in that spot so its not a need right now. WHAT? You pass up on a FAST MLB who can actually play because you have a pile jumping yellow jacket who thinks he can still play? It would be a hindsight is 20/20 deal had we picked a kid that had talent at #8 HOWEVER, we picked a project that people doubted. Man thats like the Lions or Bucs picking Jason Pierre Paul instead of making the wise selections that they did. I'll be an 80 year old man and EVERYTIME I hear Patrick Willis's name I will remember how we thought it would be cute to suit Ludacris up in a Falcons uniform. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d#d#d# Posted May 5, 2010 Author Share Posted May 5, 2010 I'll have to agree with the thread starter.....you can talk all that NOW we know crap all you want. Patrick Willis was pretty much one of those players you KNEW was going to make some noise. McKay's logic was we have Keith Brooking in that spot so its not a need right now. WHAT? You pass up on a FAST MLB who can actually play because you have a pile jumping yellow jacket who thinks he can still play? It would be a hindsight is 20/20 deal had we picked a kid that had talent at #8 HOWEVER, we picked a project that people doubted. Man thats like the Lions or Bucs picking Jason Pierre Paul instead of making the wise selections that they did. I'll be an 80 year old man and EVERYTIME I hear Patrick Willis's name I will remember how we thought it would be cute to suit Ludacris up in a Falcons uniform.Pretty much nailed it... Its not about 20/20 blah, blah, blah. Its about we had an opportunity to draft a All Pro(could be HOF when said and done) and we muffed it. Willis epitomized a sure thing...To the guy who thinks Brooking was a good MLB Look at how many game changing plays he made Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyoshot Posted May 5, 2010 Share Posted May 5, 2010 Oh come on man. I'm not a fan of McKay either but you cannot show me one team that didn't draft a bust. You can't show me one team that didn't draft a loser ahead of a stud. These things happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d#d#d# Posted May 5, 2010 Author Share Posted May 5, 2010 Wow Keith brooking was never a good MLB??? Oh right cuz I forgot they select all the worst people to go to the pro bowl. And the super bowl consists of the two worsts teams. And winning is a bad thing. And I'm Osama bin Laden.^^^^^^and pile jumpers are the greatest LB's to have played the game... MLB's are pretty much useless when they are stopping the ball carrier 5 yrds past the LOS on every play Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d#d#d# Posted May 5, 2010 Author Share Posted May 5, 2010 Oh come on man. I'm not a fan of McKay either but you cannot show me one team that didn't draft a bust. You can't show me one team that didn't draft a loser ahead of a stud. These things happen.Its not a 'hate' thread, just a reminder of every time you hear Willis name it should be as a Falcon. There were 2 sure things in that draft - Adrian Peterson and Patrick Willis... We went with a WR come TE come pretend DE lolz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyoshot Posted May 5, 2010 Share Posted May 5, 2010 Its not a 'hate' thread, just a reminder of every time you hear Willis name it should be as a Falcon. There were 2 sure things in that draft - Adrian Peterson and Patrick Willis... We went with a WR come TE come pretend DE lolzI understand that, and I would have preferred either, or anyone other than Jamaal even back then. I remember being called all kinds of names on this board when I said it was a bad pick and I knew he would be trash. Still, let's be honest, since you're probably a long time fan like myself you've seen too many of those guys to count. TJ Duckett over Ed Reed, Jammi German over Hines Ward, etc. We may not have had the best history but at least we have TD now and he is doing a good job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuerillaOntology Posted May 5, 2010 Share Posted May 5, 2010 Even if every team were to pick a Willis-type player in the first round, someone has to lose during the season. That's life, get used to it kiddo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev_Hal Posted May 5, 2010 Share Posted May 5, 2010 I'm trying to find a site with the stas, but during the draft, NFLN said that only 30% of first round picks are starters in year 4, and that 50% of all draft picks are out of the league in 3 years. A 1st round pick is hardly a guarantee of success.With that said, the Falcons historically have done much worse than other teams with success in the first round. McKay is only a small piece of that tradition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilco Posted May 5, 2010 Share Posted May 5, 2010 Can we all just pretend that '07 draft never happened? It hurts too much even thinking about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe_fishback Posted May 5, 2010 Share Posted May 5, 2010 let me get this straight rich mckay wanted to draft patrick willis but he slapped him in the face? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominique is Manufique Posted May 5, 2010 Share Posted May 5, 2010 let me get this straight rich mckay wanted to draft patrick willis but he slapped him in the face? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AutoMax Posted May 5, 2010 Share Posted May 5, 2010 I'm trying to find a site with the stas, but during the draft, NFLN said that only 30% of first round picks are starters in year 4, and that 50% of all draft picks are out of the league in 3 years. A 1st round pick is hardly a guarantee of success.With that said, the Falcons historically have done much worse than other teams with success in the first round. McKay is only a small piece of that tradition.That pretty much sums it up. Was it a bad pick? Probably. Was it the worst pick ever or the last bad pick to ever be made? Certainly not. You win some; you lose some. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilco Posted May 5, 2010 Share Posted May 5, 2010 To be honest, that draft was loaded with busts. Just look at how many guys underperformed so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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