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Hey AFMB members, this is the depth chart that I have personally come up with. Smitty had been speaking about us using more cornerbacks on the field to help with pass protection. I think this is a great idea.

Notice that I have put Owens on the opposite side of D-Rob. These are our elite run-stuffing corners, who don't mind laying the wood. Also, this provides confusion for the opposing O-Line. Blitzes can be dialed up from anywhere on the field. We can get aggressive from anywhere and still have enough capable men in coverage. Our lack of a third linebacker would be now abolished, and with Jerry and Babs commanding doubles up the middle I am not worried about only having Lofton and Peterson in there.

This said, I would like to see a DE drafted with our 19th pick to go opposite of Abraham. If he isn't ready to go week 1, Kroy is more then capable. Jerry will be back and Babs is enormous. I think this set with 2 LB will be optimal. If we get Spoon, take Peterson's spot.

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Our recent additions have given us enormous depth at the corner position, and have enabled us to do exactly what Smitty speaks of. Having this many corners on the field, and having 2 of them who hit like safeties, I think this is the solution for 2010.

Let's have some productive conversation. B)

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If we run that formation, teams are going to be running all over us.

On a more serious note... Brian Williams has no business being matched up on the other team's #1 WR, and when did John Abraham become a LDE?

A reasonable starting line-up?

LDE - Kroy Biermann/Brandon Graham

DT - Jonathan Babineaux

DT - Peria Jerry

RDE - John Abraham

SLB - Stephen Nicholas

MLB - Curtis Lofton

WLB - Mike Peterson/Sean Weatherspoon

LCB - Dunta Robinson

RCB - Chris Owens/Brent Grimes

NB - Brent Grimes/Chris Owens/Brian Williams

SS - William Moore/Erik Coleman

FS - Thomas DeCoud

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If we run that formation, teams are going to be running all over us.

On a more serious note... Brian Williams has no business being matched up on the other team's #1 WR, and when did John Abraham become a LDE?

obviosuly this would be for pass down formations, like 3rd and long

and on ur 2nd note.... use ur WILD imagination, and flip it around

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obviosuly this would be for pass down formations, like 3rd and long

and on ur 2nd note.... use ur WILD imagination, and flip it around

TD has already strongly suggested that Williams will see a larger role on the inside, so that means you can expect him at NB/DB more than starting. Since he had a major ACL tear and reconstructive surgury, I think it is dangerous as is have him on the outside either way.

EDIT: His post suggests we use this as a base set, utilizing an aggressive CB blitz scheme to make up for the fact we would have one less LB on the field.

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His post suggests we use this as a base set, utilizing an aggressive CB blitz scheme to make up for the fact we would have one less LB on the field.

Exactly. It is becoming a passing league, and the Jets ran this set all season last year.

They were aggressive with blitzing (something like 45% of the time).

Obviously we would change the set if its an obvious running down.

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lol i also asked for productive conversation.

Futhermore I stated if it is an obvious running down, to not run this set. Use it on 1st and 10? I wouldn't mind with mixed blitzes. Owens hits like a safety anyways.

Smitty wants to run 6 and 7 DB's

I think this is the optimal setup for that request, simply put.

Will he run it as a base defense? Likely not, but I think this is how he should do it.

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If we run that formation, teams are going to be running all over us.

On a more serious note... Brian Williams has no business being matched up on the other team's #1 WR, and when did John Abraham become a LDE?

A reasonable starting line-up?

LDE - Kroy Biermann/Brandon Graham 1

DT - Jonathan Babineaux 2

DT - Peria Jerry 3

RDE - John Abraham 4

SLB - Stephen Nicholas 5

MLB - Curtis Lofton 6

WLB - Mike Peterson/Sean Weatherspoon 7

LCB - Dunta Robinson 8

RCB - Chris Owens/Brent Grimes 9

NB - Brent Grimes/Chris Owens/Brian Williams 10

SS - William Moore/Erik Coleman 11

FS - Thomas DeCoud 12

Sorry but.

That can't really be a reasonable starting line-up when it's putting 12 players on the field.

This line-up actually looks like it has a ton of potential. It seems like it could be used kind of like the wildcat has been used on offense.

As has been said, you wouldn't necessarily want to use it on running downs. But then again, if Robinson and/or Owens were to pass their receivers off to Grimes and Williams, they could go lay the wood on the RB or try to sneak in on a blitz if it's a fake. With that kind of deception throwing off the opposing offense from time to time, I'm pretty sure Williams and Grimes could handle the covering chores when necessary.

I feel like the looks you could give the O with this package, especially if you've got corners with more than just cover skills, would add a valuable dynamic to our rising defense.

If TD adds a quality pass rusher, then the improved pass rush suddenly make this package look even more appealing. I think one of the keys would be the linebacker(s). If they can be relied on to keep the run in check even with less linebacking manpower, then why not use this package.

I'm going to have to look into the possabilities more, the thought of it is pretty exciting!

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Sorry but.

That can't really be a reasonable starting line-up when it's putting 12 players on the field.

This line-up actually looks like it has a ton of potential. It seems like it could be used kind of like the wildcat has been used on offense.

As has been said, you wouldn't necessarily want to use it on running downs. But then again, if Robinson and/or Owens were to pass their receivers off to Grimes and Williams, they could go lay the wood on the RB or try to sneak in on a blitz if it's a fake. With that kind of deception throwing off the opposing offense from time to time, I'm pretty sure Williams and Grimes could handle the covering chores when necessary.

Exactly my thoughts, well put!

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Sorry but.

That can't really be a reasonable starting line-up when it's putting 12 players on the field.

I know that, obviously you would switch out the NB for one of the OLBs. Usually you include your line-up for just your base set, but do to the amount of 3+ WR sets used these days, the NB is pretty much a starting player.

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I know that, obviously you would switch out the NB for one of the OLBs. Usually you include your line-up for just your base set, but do to the amount of 3+ WR sets used these days, the NB is pretty much a starting player.

I understand that.

It's just that the OP put up a chart showing an unusual line-up with new possibilities, and you kinda came back saying that his line-up would be ran on easily in that set, and attacking his placement of JA55.

He put a chart up and a description and you attacked it and placed up an unreasonable 12 man line-up.

Typically you WOULD put up your base set line-up and discuss personal changes and whatnot, but in this case, the topic of discussion was a non-base set line-up and the possibilities that would come with it.

There's no dramas. Just the discussing of a proposed line-up's potential.

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lol i also asked for productive conversation.

Futhermore I stated if it is an obvious running down, to not run this set. Use it on 1st and 10? I wouldn't mind with mixed blitzes. Owens hits like a safety anyways.

Smitty wants to run 6 and 7 DB's

I think this is the optimal setup for that request, simply put.

Will he run it as a base defense? Likely not, but I think this is how he should do it.

You're chart shows 5 DBs. Imagine if Lofton and the D-Line were dedicated solely to preventing the run. Switch Peterson for Moore. Now you've got Robinson, Owens, and Moore who can basically float from coverage to run support and/or blitzing schemes. You've got 6 DB's of which the QB has to be aware, that at least one is going to come from somewhere. Then you've also got the ability to go man-to-man on 3 receiver sets, with a safety deep for help over the top or to cover a TE. Leaving a 2nd man available to bring pressure. QBs and OCs would have their work cut out for them. They'd have to stick to short passes most likely in order to get the ball out quick enough. At that point you could even feign the blitz with one of the DBs and then pull him back into coverage to jump a short route. Quickly of course.

I don't know. Seems like the possiblilties go on and on with this package. Good stuff.

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