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I based this draft off of experience, production, measurable and position of need. We all know that there maybe be better options in earlier rounds but being that we do not have 7 1st round picks look at that the draft as a whole versus the sum of its parts! And if you hate it which as much h3ll I've give many of you (Jaymadd you especially) give valid reason oppose to I like one player at this position four rounds earlier!

2010 Draft

1. OLB Sean Weatherspoon, Missouri

Height: 6-2 | Weight: 239 |40 Time: 4.57

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1123346

http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/sean-weatherspoon?id=496963

http://www.cfbstats.com/2009/player/434/1002230/index.html

Scouting Reports: Weatherspoon is an excellent combination of size, strength and athleticism for the position. He is a tough hard-nosed linebacker that plays with a great motor. Weatherspoon is a solid tackler but not a thumper in this area. He runs well and shows good range in pursuit as well as in coverage. Weatherspoon leverages the ball well with good angles and proper body positioning. He uses his hands well to ward off blockers and maintain gap responsibility. Weatherspoon is an intelligent linebacker that possesses great intangibles that along with physical attributes which should make him a productive player as a rookie.

3a. TE Jimmy Graham

Height: 6-6 | Weight: 260 | 40 Time: 4.56

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1702982

http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/jimmy-graham?id=497236

http://www.cfbstats.com/2009/player/415/1024743/index.html

Scouting Reports: Graham is a very raw tight end that left the basketball team to turn out for football in time for the 2009 season. He is extremely athletic and has a huge upside but still needs a ton of technique work from running routes to blocking. He is not restricted in his routes and shows a good burst coming out of his breaks to separate from defenders but at the same time struggles to get off the line vs. good press linebackers. He shows strength when going for the ball in a crowd as well as flashes of strength as a blocker but can be sloppy in his footwork when he needs to adjust on the move when blocking in space. He has received comparisons to Tony Gonzalez who played football and basketball at Cal but he is not as developed as Gonzalez was at the same stage. He still needs to shed the basketball work ethic he came with.

3b. OT Tony Washington

Height: 6-6 | Weight: 311 | 40 Time: 5.19

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1675296?tag=untagged

http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/tony-washington?id=497069#tabs:tab-analysis

Scouting Reports: Washington is a good sized tackle that has the frame to add a lot of bulk and strength. He is stronger than most at this level of play but will need to get stronger if he wants to play at the next level. He will likely be in for a shock when he comes up against the kind of speed he will be facing, coming off the edge, when he is facing an NFL defensive end, and while he has a quick kick step, when reaching to pick up the speed rush he has a tendency to overextend too often and leaves himself open to good counter moves. He plays with good intensity and effort and will flash the ability to finish his blocks off. Washington is not always quick to pick up blocks when in space and is still learning blocking angles.

4a. DE CJ Wilson

Height: 6-3 | Weight: 290 | 40 Time: 4.75

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1274059?tag=pageRow;pageContainer

http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/c.j.-wilson?id=496875#tabs:tab-analysis

http://www.cfbstats.com/2009/player/196/1000957/index.html

Scouting Reports: Wilson has been a durable active defender for the Pirates over the past two seasons. He has good edge quickness and speed to close to the quarterback as a pass rusher. He is an instinctive player who feels pad pressure well to maintain his gap responsibility. Questions remain about his ability to be an effective coverage defender on zone blitzes or if he can project to outside linebacker due to his lack of great lateral agility and quickness. Wilson should be able to give a team good depth with his natural strength, toughness and intangibles as a 4-3 defensive end.

4b. Akwasi Owusu-Ansah

Height: 6-0 | Weight: 207 | 40 Time: 4.43

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1675324?tag=pageRow;pageContainer

http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/akwasi-owusu-ansah?id=494293#tabs:tab-analysis

Scouting Reports: Owusu-Ansah is an outstanding player at the division II level that will need to make the transition to the talent in the NFL. He is an athletic defender that can play as a rolled up corner in cover two or possible a safety in the box. Owusu-Ansah has excellent instincts and ball skills to maintain leverage as a run defender as well as making plays in the passing game. He is as solid rap tackler and can contribute on coverage units (special teams) as well as being an excellent return specialist at this level. Owusu-Ansah is a prospect that may take a year or two to make the jump to the next level but has the raw athleticism, attitude and measurables to develop into a solid NFL player.

5a. ILB Jamar Chaney

Height: 6-1 | Weight: 242 | 40 Time: 4.51

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1116461?tag=pageRow;pageContainer

http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/jamar-chaney?id=496907

http://www.cfbstats.com/2009/player/430/82678/index.html

Scouting Reports: Chaney is coming off his most productive year as a collegiate player after missing most of the 2008 season with an injury in the opener. Chaney has adequate size, strength and athleticism for the position. Chaney has improved his run defense but is best in space as a coverage defender. He is inconsistent to take on and shed blockers and may be best covered up at the next level. Chaney plays with an excellent motor and is quick to pursue with solid instincts. He runs well and shows excellent range which should make him great in combination man schemes as well as special team’s at the nest level. Chaney is a very good football player that is likely to be productive as a rookie.

5b. OC Eric Olsen

Height: 6-4 | Weight: 306 | 40 Time: 5.22

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1246097?tag=untagged

http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/eric-olsen?id=497034

Scouting Reports: Olsen is a good college center with excellent size, strength and technique. He works his blocks hard and will fight from snap to whistle to get the job done. He does a good job of getting a fit with his hands to control and steer opponents but does not always bring his feet with him when reacting to movement. He is not real nimble or quick getting to the second level when on the back side and is not real effective when blocking in space. He is not a natural knee-bender and struggles to keep his pad level down to leverage his blocks. He has a chance on size, competitiveness and intelligence but lacks the physical tools to be a front-line player.

6. WR Stephen Williams

Height: 6-4 | Weight: 210 | 40 Time: 4.48

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/583487?tag=pageRow;pageContainer

http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/stephen-williams?id=497344

http://www.cfbstats.com/2009/player/709/79315/index.html

Scouting Reports: Williams is a good sized receiver with excellent ball skills but is very raw and will need a lot of work when it comes to running routes and setting defenders up. He has natural hands as well as the ability to react and adjust to slightly off-target throws and should find his early success as an inside red zone receiver that can use his size and ball skills to catch the ball over the middle and in traffic. He will high point catches and shows excellent concentration and competitiveness when in a crowd. He tends to telegraph his cuts and can be a bit choppy in and out of his breaks.

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Its not gonna be to hard to argue this one.

Just say no to Weatherspoon. OLBs are a dime a dozen and there will still be good ones available later on. Dekoda Watson, Navarro Bowman, Perry Riley, and Steven Sylvester are just a few of the quality OLBs that will be available in the later rounds.

Jimmy Graham would be an excellent pick. A Tony Gonzalez clone could learn from the man himself.

I agree that we need to upgrade the RT position, but we have more pressing needs.

CJ WIlson would be a fine pick in the 6th round. Which is about where the so-called draft experts have him projected.

Owusu-Ansah would be a nice value pick based on potential.

Given the impressive combine he just had, I don't think Chaney will be here in the fifth. WHich is a crying shame, because I really like this kid. MLB is not that big of a need.

Olson is a nice player and we certainly need to look at upgrading the OC position. I am concerned about his short arems, but playing inside doesn't make that as big an issue.

Stephen Williams is a good WR.

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Its not gonna be to hard to argue this one.

Just say no to Weatherspoon. OLBs are a dime a dozen and there will still be good ones available later on. Dekoda Watson, Navarro Bowman, Perry Riley, and Steven Sylvester are just a few of the quality OLBs that will be available in the later rounds.

Jimmy Graham would be an excellent pick. A Tony Gonzalez clone could learn from the man himself.

I agree that we need to upgrade the RT position, but we have more pressing needs.

CJ WIlson would be a fine pick in the 6th round. Which is about where the so-called draft experts have him projected.

Owusu-Ansah would be a nice value pick based on potential.

Given the impressive combine he just had, I don't think Chaney will be here in the fifth. WHich is a crying shame, because I really like this kid. MLB is not that big of a need.

Olson is a nice player and we certainly need to look at upgrading the OC position. I am concerned about his short arems, but playing inside doesn't make that as big an issue.

Stephen Williams is a good WR.

Thanks for the comments but it sound almost like you are agreeing with a lot of the picks?

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Thanks for the comments but it sound almost like you are agreeing with a lot of the picks?

My biggest disagreement is with the Weatherspoon pick. I agree with the positions you targeted, not the order you targeted them in. I would probably have ranked them in this order...

  1. DE
  2. CB
  3. OLB
  4. WR
  5. RT
  6. C

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My biggest disagreement is with the Weatherspoon pick. I agree with the positions you targeted, not the order you targeted them in. I would probably have ranked them in this order...

  1. DE
  2. CB
  3. OLB
  4. WR
  5. RT
  6. C

I don't think you draft by ranking order of need. Case and point DT was not our biggest need last year but Jerry possess the biggest value at a position of need. If you can get a high quality LDE which does not possess the same value as a RDE much like RT vs LT in a later round why not draft for a different position with high upside? As mention in the statement yes there are better players in earlier rounds why but versus looking at one pick judge it as a whole. Each position of need has been address with high quality player that can't be argued (Experience, Measurables, Production and High character) which are all TD criteria.

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I don't think you draft by ranking order of need. Case and point DT was not our biggest need last year but Jerry possess the biggest value at a position of need. If you can get a high quality LDE which does not possess the same value as a RDE much like RT vs LT in a later round why not draft for a different position with high upside? As mention in the statement yes there are better players in earlier rounds why but versus looking at one pick judge it as a whole. Each position of need has been address with high quality player that can't be argued (Experience, Measurables, Production and High character) which are all TD criteria.

Let me explain my draft philosophy. Remember that this based on a 4-3 defense, it will change for the different versions of the 3-4.

Several Positions carry priority over the rest. QB,CB,OT,DE, and a pass rushing DT are more valuable and more difficult to find than MLB,OLB,OG,OC, and quite obviously ST. I take my positional rankings and organize them according to need and depth. Because I believe DE is a bigger position of need than CB, DE will be my main target. CB is a bigger need than OLB. OT has a higher positional value than OLB, but the OT need is for depth, whereas the OLB need is for a potential starter, so OLB gets ranked over OT. This is where it really gets screwy. WR ranks sixth on my positional chart, and OT ranks third, but because WR is almost a position in need of a potential starter, due to Douglas' knee injury and Jenkins being a stopgap, and because WRs usually take longer to develop, I ranked WR ahead of OT.

I finally have my draft target positions organized. I then proceed to make out a big board of players by position in the order of BPA. So for the DE position my big board looks like this:

  1. Derrick Morgan
  2. JPP
  3. Everson Griffen
  4. Brandon Graham
  5. Carlos Dunlap

I then assign each player a value rating. This rating is nothing more than an indicator of where I think they should be drafted. The higher the number, the higher the draft slot. A ranking of 5 indicates top 10. 4.5 is top 15. 4.25 is 15-25. 4 is 25-32 and so on. So for the DE position my big board looks like this:

  1. Derrick Morgan 5
  2. JPP 4.5
  3. Everson Griffen 4.25
  4. Brandon Graham 4.25
  5. Carlos Dunlap 4

So, all my positions are ranked and all my players are ranked. When it comes time to make my actual pick, I believe in BPA that fills the biggest need.

That is how I came up with my draft order. I haven't actually assigned any names yet because I was waiting for RFAs to be tendered. Now that that is over with, I am gonna start working on my Falcons mock.

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Let me explain my draft philosophy. Remember that this based on a 4-3 defense, it will change for the different versions of the 3-4.

Several Positions carry priority over the rest. QB,CB,OT,DE, and a pass rushing DT are more valuable and more difficult to find than MLB,OLB,OG,OC, and quite obviously ST. I take my positional rankings and organize them according to need and depth. Because I believe DE is a bigger position of need than CB, DE will be my main target. CB is a bigger need than OLB. OT has a higher positional value than OLB, but the OT need is for depth, whereas the OLB need is for a potential starter, so OLB gets ranked over OT. This is where it really gets screwy. WR ranks sixth on my positional chart, and OT ranks third, but because WR is almost a position in need of a potential starter, due to Douglas' knee injury and Jenkins being a stopgap, and because WRs usually take longer to develop, I ranked WR ahead of OT.

I finally have my draft target positions organized. I then proceed to make out a big board of players by position in the order of BPA. So for the DE position my big board looks like this:

  1. Derrick Morgan
  2. JPP
  3. Everson Griffen
  4. Brandon Graham
  5. Carlos Dunlap

I then assign each player a value rating. This rating is nothing more than an indicator of where I think they should be drafted. The higher the number, the higher the draft slot. A ranking of 5 indicates top 10. 4.5 is top 15. 4.25 is 15-25. 4 is 25-32 and so on. So for the DE position my big board looks like this:

  1. Derrick Morgan 5
  2. JPP 4.5
  3. Everson Griffen 4.25
  4. Brandon Graham 4.25
  5. Carlos Dunlap 4

So, all my positions are ranked and all my players are ranked. When it comes time to make my actual pick, I believe in BPA that fills the biggest need.

That is how I came up with my draft order. I haven't actually assigned any names yet because I was waiting for RFAs to be tendered. Now that that is over with, I am gonna start working on my Falcons mock.

So how does your position ranking system apply in later rows being that it is a 1st round scale? And how does it change as players are drafted either soon (Raiders picks) than expected and later than projected (Sidbury)?

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I think it is a very good draft HBFA especially if we grab a vet DE like Kampman or Vanden Bosch as well as a vet CB. People are delusional if they think any DE we can grab at 19 will be better than Biermann or Sidbury. Weatherspoon is a starter from day one and will be a impact player for us.

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I think it is a very good draft HBFA especially if we grab a vet DE like Kampman or Vanden Bosch as well as a vet CB. People are delusional if they think any DE we can grab at 19 will be better than Biermann or Sidbury. Weatherspoon is a starter from day one and will be a impact player for us.

Good lucking on the comments!

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Let me explain my draft philosophy. Remember that this based on a 4-3 defense, it will change for the different versions of the 3-4.

Several Positions carry priority over the rest. QB,CB,OT,DE, and a pass rushing DT are more valuable and more difficult to find than MLB,OLB,OG,OC, and quite obviously ST. I take my positional rankings and organize them according to need and depth. Because I believe DE is a bigger position of need than CB, DE will be my main target. CB is a bigger need than OLB. OT has a higher positional value than OLB, but the OT need is for depth, whereas the OLB need is for a potential starter, so OLB gets ranked over OT. This is where it really gets screwy. WR ranks sixth on my positional chart, and OT ranks third, but because WR is almost a position in need of a potential starter, due to Douglas' knee injury and Jenkins being a stopgap, and because WRs usually take longer to develop, I ranked WR ahead of OT.

I finally have my draft target positions organized. I then proceed to make out a big board of players by position in the order of BPA. So for the DE position my big board looks like this:

  1. Derrick Morgan
  2. JPP
  3. Everson Griffen
  4. Brandon Graham
  5. Carlos Dunlap

I then assign each player a value rating. This rating is nothing more than an indicator of where I think they should be drafted. The higher the number, the higher the draft slot. A ranking of 5 indicates top 10. 4.5 is top 15. 4.25 is 15-25. 4 is 25-32 and so on. So for the DE position my big board looks like this:

  1. Derrick Morgan 5
  2. JPP 4.5
  3. Everson Griffen 4.25
  4. Brandon Graham 4.25
  5. Carlos Dunlap 4

So, all my positions are ranked and all my players are ranked. When it comes time to make my actual pick, I believe in BPA that fills the biggest need.

That is how I came up with my draft order. I haven't actually assigned any names yet because I was waiting for RFAs to be tendered. Now that that is over with, I am gonna start working on my Falcons mock.

I agree and TD is very big on positional value especially in the 1st Round, which means that if a DE or CB is worth of a 1st in TD eyes then we will draft a CB or DE instead of Weatherspoon.

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I am not a big fan of the Weatherspoon pick, but I can understand it, but I hope we dont go that route, especially with the talented CB's/DE in the draft.

I like Graham but I think drafting him in the 3rd is due to him being overhyped, the dude is very raw. I think that TE position has some pretty good talent, I Like the TE from Iowa- Miekie, Clay Harbor over Graham especially since Graham hands are questionable. I really hope we draft the TE from Iowa, he is good value in the later rounds, but could move up with a great Senior bowl and a good combine.

Tony Washington has some character concerns which will keep him from being a Falcon IMO, but I like addressing OT at that point.

E.J Wilson is not a good pick. Wilson brings that JA98/Davis type of value to the team. He is not a good pass rusher, but is good against the run. He can play inside on passing downs, hmmmmm.... doesnt that remind you of two players that we already have on our team.

I am cool with the rest of the draft except the 3 names mentioned above, excluded Weatherspoon.

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I agree and TD is very big on positional value especially in the 1st Round, which means that if a DE or CB is worth of a 1st in TD eyes then we will draft a CB or DE instead of Weatherspoon.

Thank Jaymadd for comments I knew you were going deliver reason to this insanity! I'll start on a new one because you didn't like the first pick!

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Thank Jaymadd for comments I knew you were going deliver reason to this insanity! I'll start on a new one because you didn't like the first pick!

I think in your rush to try and come up with some witty comeback you missed what I said. I will repeat. Positional Value is very important to TD and if TD gives 1st round value to a DE or CB that is still on the board then I see us drafting that DE or CB over spoon.

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So how does your position ranking system apply in later rows being that it is a 1st round scale? And how does it change as players are drafted either soon (Raiders picks) than expected and later than projected (Sidbury)?

I just used the first round as an example. It carries all the way to Mr. Irrelevant.

That is the order in which I currently have the DEs ranked, but those are not the correct player ratings. Those are on an Excel sheet stored on my work PC.What you saw are just made up numbers to show value.

The Raiders screw up my mocks every year!There is no way to accurately mock draft a team that has no plan or values certain measurables like 40 times.

To answer your question I will do it in the form of an example. If the Raiders really reach and draft Mays at 8, it doesn't affect my system at all. If the Raiders were to really reach and draft Dunlap at 8, it would affect it only moderately as I have him ranked with a value lower than the draft choice. If the Raiders took Everson Griffen, who would be the highest ranked player at a need position with a value equal to or greater than the draft choice, then other factors come into play. How much do I value the next ranked player at that position? If he has a grade in that range then I draft the next player, in this case it would be Brandon Graham. If the next player doesn't grade out in the range, then I move to the next need position. If I make it through the entire list and can't find a player that makes the grade, then I work the phones looking to trade down. It isn't really all that complicated.

If there is a player I have given a 2nd round grade to who is still available when I draft in the fourth, I throw the system out the window as his value is to great to pass on. This really only happens with linemen or CBs, as no team will ever have enough quality linemen or CBs.

Believe it or not, all of this really works.

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I just used the first round as an example. It carries all the way to Mr. Irrelevant.

That is the order in which I currently have the DEs ranked, but those are not the correct player ratings. Those are on an Excel sheet stored on my work PC.What you saw are just made up numbers to show value.

The Raiders screw up my mocks every year!There is no way to accurately mock draft a team that has no plan or values certain measurables like 40 times.

To answer your question I will do it in the form of an example. If the Raiders really reach and draft Mays at 8, it doesn't affect my system at all. If the Raiders were to really reach and draft Dunlap at 8, it would affect it only moderately as I have him ranked with a value lower than the draft choice. If the Raiders took Everson Griffen, who would be the highest ranked player at a need position with a value equal to or greater than the draft choice, then other factors come into play. How much do I value the next ranked player at that position? If he has a grade in that range then I draft the next player, in this case it would be Brandon Graham. If the next player doesn't grade out in the range, then I move to the next need position. If I make it through the entire list and can't find a player that makes the grade, then I work the phones looking to trade down. It isn't really all that complicated.

If there is a player I have given a 2nd round grade to who is still available when I draft in the fourth, I throw the system out the window as his value is to great to pass on. This really only happens with linemen or CBs, as no team will ever have enough quality linemen or CBs.

Believe it or not, all of this really works.

This is were I see a flaw in your theory. Let's assume the Falcons have 7 positions to address and you only address those position in the order you see the need. If there is ever a run in a position that you have a need in, you run the risk of address it with players that are a) not scheme specific and B) not really an upgrade because talent is not available. Position value changes as the number of prospects are available. I personally do not value CB high in this years draft because this is a deep CB class that I can pick talent which is normally a 2nd round talent in weaker draft class in he 4th.

A case of this is in 2008 draft, DT was clearly a position of need for us but TD is on record of say he chose not draft a DT after the first round because there was a consider drop off in talent. So versus filling your roster with 4th & 5th round talent at a position of need in the 3rd you base you evaluation on the depth of all the positions and evaluate were you can draft the most value. If not you run the risk of drafting out of the same position ever 2-3 years JA98 is the best case scenario. 2007 was obviously a very weak DE class so versus reaching on draft that position we should have draft another position of need with better value hence no busts.

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No system is perfect. I will readily admit mine isn't.

Scheme specific is one of the things I take into consideration when grading players. If I need a UT, but I am relatively set at NT, I am not gonna draft a NT just because he has a higher grade. Looking back on the post that started all of this, I made a typo. This

When it comes time to make my actual pick, I believe in BPA that fills the biggest need.
should have been this...

When it comes time to make my actual pick, I believe in BPA that fills the biggest need and fits the system.

This is just works for me. One thing you might want to keep in mind though. Mike Smith is a former D-Line coach...

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One thing that I don't like about this mock is that you didn't address the pass rush. C.J. Wilson is a 3-4 DE. I disagree with that scouting report. He is not quick off the line and that was when he was listed as 270. He is up to 290 now. There's no way i see him making any sort of impact on the pass rush.

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One thing that I don't like about this mock is that you didn't address the pass rush. C.J. Wilson is a 3-4 DE. I disagree with that scouting report. He is not quick off the line and that was when he was listed as 270. He is up to 290 now. There's no way i see him making any sort of impact on the pass rush.

He ran a 4.75 and avg almost 7 sck a year how does he not help a pass rush? Where do people get the ideal that they are now scouts versus people who actual get paid alot of money to do? The scouting rpt was from the NFL I a pretty sure they know what they are doing.

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He ran a 4.75 and avg almost 7 sck a year how does he not help a pass rush? Where do people get the ideal that they are now scouts versus people who actual get paid alot of money to do? The scouting rpt was from the NFL I a pretty sure they know what they are doing.

He's not going to beat NFL Right Tackles with the pass-rushing skills he currently displays.

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He ran a 4.75 and avg almost 7 sck a year how does he not help a pass rush? Where do people get the ideal that they are now scouts versus people who actual get paid alot of money to do? The scouting rpt was from the NFL I a pretty sure they know what they are doing.

You get WAAAAAAY to caught up in stats. I don't care that he ran a 4.75 thats not gonna make him more explosive off the edge. That tells me he he prepared well for the 40 and had good technique running it. And 7 sacks isn't that impressive, especially considering he plays in C-USA and got most of his sacks against lower quality opponents.

To real football now, I just don't see the explosiveness and quickness from him to turn the corner against OT's in the NFL. It works against OT's from Houston and Rice but I don't see him being a successful pass rusher in the NFL.

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You get WAAAAAAY to caught up in stats. I don't care that he ran a 4.75 thats not gonna make him more explosive off the edge. That tells me he he prepared well for the 40 and had good technique running it. And 7 sacks isn't that impressive, especially considering he plays in C-USA and got most of his sacks against lower quality opponents.

To real football now, I just don't see the explosiveness and quickness from him to turn the corner against OT's in the NFL. It works against OT's from Houston and Rice but I don't see him being a successful pass rusher in the NFL.

I agree dude is all about the Stats, lives and die by the stats, it is amazing.

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Its not gonna be to hard to argue this one.

Just say no to Weatherspoon. OLBs are a dime a dozen and there will still be good ones available later on. Dekoda Watson, Navarro Bowman, Perry Riley, and Steven Sylvester are just a few of the quality OLBs that will be available in the later rounds.

Jimmy Graham would be an excellent pick. A Tony Gonzalez clone could learn from the man himself.

I agree that we need to upgrade the RT position, but we have more pressing needs.

CJ WIlson would be a fine pick in the 6th round. Which is about where the so-called draft experts have him projected.

Owusu-Ansah would be a nice value pick based on potential.

Given the impressive combine he just had, I don't think Chaney will be here in the fifth. WHich is a crying shame, because I really like this kid. MLB is not that big of a need.

Olson is a nice player and we certainly need to look at upgrading the OC position. I am concerned about his short arems, but playing inside doesn't make that as big an issue.

Stephen Williams is a good WR.

Agree with everything you just said, except the OT part. I think drafting an OT would greatly benefit the Falcons offense, as giving Ryan that extra second would be huge to his development as a QB.

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You get WAAAAAAY to caught up in stats. I don't care that he ran a 4.75 thats not gonna make him more explosive off the edge. That tells me he he prepared well for the 40 and had good technique running it. And 7 sacks isn't that impressive, especially considering he plays in C-USA and got most of his sacks against lower quality opponents.

To real football now, I just don't see the explosiveness and quickness from him to turn the corner against OT's in the NFL. It works against OT's from Houston and Rice but I don't see him being a successful pass rusher in the NFL.

How am I suppose to respond when someone makes a claim that dude is not a pass rusher? Stats are the ONLY way to measure performance. If we was to ask if a car was fast, what are you going to say how fast does it goes? People does not have speedometer on them do you give 40 time. All sports keep stats for what reason? Measure and compare attributes! So it is stupid for you and anyone to say to guys is this or that when stats records time says otherwise!

That is about as dumb as say me claiming something is red you disagreeing I in turn as you to look at it and then you claiming I am being way to visual.

And Jaymadd earlier today you thought the guy played for UNC and claim he look like Chancy Davis. That just let me know you talk out your a$$ half the time giving fake scouting reports!

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