atljbo Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 They had Mays officlal time at 4.43..... They had Trenton Holiday official time at 4.34If you look at this video of the NFL Network using semi-cast.... Taylor Mays was faster then Trenton Holiday.Most scouts had him at 4.3 flathttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDhYKZHKh4Q Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NZFalcon Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 So much for Official Times Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azinine Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 Just read about this on pft. VERY interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Don™ Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 Conspiracy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1989Fan Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 i think he had to have ran a 4.3There is something fishy that his 'official' time was so bad.McCourty's time got adjusted like a full second as well.that vid says alot, i was baffled when I saw it on NFLN this evening. If his is a second wrong in the bad side, maybe Haden ran a 4.5, which is much better. I am sure that would make every athlete second guess things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngbloodz Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 We will find out at Mays pro day. But USC has a fast track just like V Tech so who knows. Taylor is fast as heck though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sporkdevil Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 I have been very confused as to how it takes so long to get such poor "official times". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atljbo Posted March 3, 2010 Author Share Posted March 3, 2010 Thats why teams normally goes by the unofficial time/there hand held time and the 40 time they take during personally workouts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1989Fan Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 I have been very confused as to how it takes so long to get such poor "official times".Rich Eisen mentioned they dont release official times until everyone in the group runs. dont know if that is the case, but remember him mentioning it when someone was asking about an official time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SetzerFalcon Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 He ran a high 4.2 or a low 4.3. This just illustrates the reality that timing is a flawed system and always has been. There is no actual, conceivable way for a human to time in hundredths of a second, and machines inevitably lead to human error. If nothing else, this should be a cautionary tale yet again that "measurables" really don't mean jack squat within a certain range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Wilson Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 He ran a high 4.2 or a low 4.3. This just illustrates the reality that timing is a flawed system and always has been. There is no actual, conceivable way for a human to time in hundredths of a second, and machines inevitably lead to human error. If nothing else, this should be a cautionary tale yet again that "measurables" really don't mean jack squat within a certain range.4.2? Really? What would that make Ford's? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atljbo Posted March 3, 2010 Author Share Posted March 3, 2010 Joe Haden will try to use this as an excuse but hand times (including scouts) had him at 4.58 -4.60 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phattywankenobi Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 It's bad enough that at their Pro Days these guys shave off around .2 and of course Carroll clocked Mays at 4.2 something. Now the NFL can't even get it right. They were suppose to be the standard for comparison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sporkdevil Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 It's bad enough that at their Pro Days these guys shave off around .2 and of course Carroll clocked Mays at 4.2 something. Now the NFL can't even get it right. They were suppose to be the standard for comparison.Carroll said 4.19As a side note that I have heard about, we should note players who skip the 40's. They claim they have a hamstring injury and bulk up for the bench press, then they drop weight for a month to run a better time.How can the NFL not measure through video? Like a good shot of their foot taking off to the point they cross the line? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stryka Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 Joe Haden will try to use this as an excuse but hand times (including scouts) had him at 4.58 -4.60J. Haden doesnt need an excuse. He is the best CB period. Game tape shows his speed in pads.40 times especially get over blown when a guy doesnt run a fast time when everyone thinks he is supposed to.There is no goal for a 40yd dash. In real game situation, Haden has explosive recovery speed, even if someone gets a step on him, he guns them down and makes a play on the ball.This guy didnt go from running a 4.3 at FLA to being a 4.6 guy. Call it what you want, T. Mays was a full body length ahead of Trindon and Trindon was 4.34. Official times are obviously flawed, this simply is the first time it has been blatantly obvious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atljbo Posted March 3, 2010 Author Share Posted March 3, 2010 J. Haden doesnt need an excuse. He is the best CB period. Game tape shows his speed in pads.40 times especially get over blown when a guy doesnt run a fast time when everyone thinks he is supposed to.There is no goal for a 40yd dash. In real game situation, Haden has explosive recovery speed, even if someone gets a step on him, he guns them down and makes a play on the ball.This guy didnt go from running a 4.3 at FLA to being a 4.6 guy. Call it what you want, T. Mays was a full body length ahead of Trindon and Trindon was 4.34. Official times are obviously flawed, this simply is the first time it has been blatantly obvious.Calm down... I like Joe Haden and hope he slip to us..Dude is the best CB in the draft...****.. We needed him to run that 4.6 to possibly get him.I was just saying that i know Joe Haden's camp (agent mainly) will try to use the time thing (dealing with Taylor Mays) as an excuseI know Haden will run a good 4.4 at his proday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-dawg Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 yes, I too am perplexed at all this around Taylor Mays' time. I think this just exposes how subjective these times are - we all like to think the 40times are scientific but they are only as good as the human hand on the stopwatch or the accuracy of the offical time is.Its dayum near impossible to have an extremely accurate time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pr0d1gy Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 Its dayum near impossible to have an extremely accurate time.No it isn't. They do it in the Olympics and track meets all the time. The NFL is just run by idiots and their own Network showed the world how stupid they really are....lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbird Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 FAST Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdz 0f Prey Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 Why do people care so much about a d@mn 40 time? Mays is a bad player either way. Very good chance he is a bust in the NFL, Even if he is converted to LB (Something he has NEVER played before) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russ7000 Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 i must have been false. he plays sloppy anyway. let Al Davis grab him .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theProf Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 From Scott Wright at draftcountdown as follows:Tuesday (3/2) @ 2:00pm CSTControversy in Indy!• There was some electricity in the air after USC S Taylor Mays reportedly ran a 4.24 forty this morning, followed by a 4.34 on his second attempt. Needless to say a 6-3, 230 pound prospect running that sort of time sent shockwaves across NFL Draft message boards, Twitter and all along Al Davis' spine. But as Lee Corso likes to say: “Not so fast my friend”. When the “official” times came in they only had Mays listed at 4.43. So what gives? In my opinion, that “official” time is wrong. I personally timed Mays on both attempts then went back and timed the first one again for good measure. On my stopwatch I had Mays sub-4.3 all three times. Also, the NFL Network synced up Mays’ run with those of Jacoby Ford and Trindon Holliday, who “officially” ran times of 4.28 and 4.34 respectively. Mays finished right between them. In my opinion Mays was legitimately in the high-4.2’s or low-4.3’s. So what does this do for his stock? It certainly doesn’t hurt! On one hand Mays was expected to work out extremely well so this isn’t a total shocker but to see it with your own eyes is kind of a different ballgame. I have never hopped off of the Taylor Mays bandwagon or drank the “Hatorade” like others and I still feel he is a Top 20 pick. After showcasing that freakish blend of size, speed and athleticism in front of so many NFL decision makers in Indy I would be shocked if Mays dropped out of the first round like some have speculated. One way or another Taylor Mays ranks right up there with the 2010 Scouting Combine’s most impressive performers.http://www.draftcountdown.com/features/ScoutingCombine/Buzz.php Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwifalcon Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 (edited) All is I know was that Jacoby Ford after he went through that 40 yard beam is starting to change gear again and if it had been a longer sprint say 60 yard Ford is long gone.But to be fair to Mays his time is bogus as shown on that film 4.3 flat sounds about right and thats impressive for a big guy. Edited March 3, 2010 by kiwifalcon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirbyr Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 Why do people care so much about a d@mn 40 time? Mays is a bad player either way. Very good chance he is a bust in the NFL, Even if he is converted to LB (Something he has NEVER played before)Because speed is something you can't teach. When you see a guy like Mays there is always the thought that you can coach them up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andre5000 Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 He's crap anyway.. dude had 5 int's in 4 years on a team that was ahead most the time, dude should have been making more plays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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