head busta from augusta Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 http://twitter.com/BFeldmanESPNOklahoma State CB Perrish Cox runs a 4.57 after clocking, unofficially, a 4.53. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
head busta from augusta Posted March 2, 2010 Author Share Posted March 2, 2010 4.53 is very respectable, not enough to burst him up boards, but for sure not enough to scratch him from any list. This isn't a fast track, if anything it's a little on the slow side, that 40 keeps him right where he needs to be in that 2nd round / late 1st round mix. He wasn't really much of an option @ 19 in this year's draft.Wasn't slow yesterday with RB, WR, DL & OL putting up great times! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
head busta from augusta Posted March 2, 2010 Author Share Posted March 2, 2010 Yes, in fact it was, how many WRs put sub 4.4s up even those who were supposed to have very good speed? You can't look at unofficials, you have to look at official times. 1 WR2 RBso we have 3 sub 4.4 40s this year. Give me a break if you think this is a fast track.Dline put up mediocre times, and this is supposed to be the best draft in YEARS. So times should be better, #s should all be better, however they aren't. Sucks to be wrong for you.Campbell put up a 4.85, and Williams with 4.88 for an OL, that's impressive, other than that, nothing insane out there, but that doesn't make him a football player either.A lot of times right at 5.0 for dlinemen, a lot of guys who were expected to put up 4.5s and have recorded 4.5s put up times in the 4.7 range. This is a slow track.When you have TE and LB running faster or as fast as you and your value is KR/PR sorry no for me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
head busta from augusta Posted March 2, 2010 Author Share Posted March 2, 2010 His value is @ CB. We have KR/PR. We're not looking for a return guy.Dude reads his scouting rpt.http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/perrish-cox?id=494265He is a returner who happens to play corner."Talented return man who scores touchdowns.""Cox needs technique work as a secondary defender and likely will have his biggest impact on special teams in his rookie season." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atljbo Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 4.53 is very respectable, not enough to burst him up boards, but for sure not enough to scratch him from any list. This isn't a fast track, if anything it's a little on the slow side, that 40 keeps him right where he needs to be in that 2nd round / late 1st round mix. He wasn't really much of an option @ 19 in this year's draft.Exactly.... Chris Owens ran a 4.5 official time last year..... Indy has a slow track.... Thats why its impressive if a guy runs in the 4.3s or 4.2's'Heck Jowe Haden ran a 4.57 and 4.60But yea... Cox will run a 4.4 at his pro day and team workouts.... He is a 2nd round pick tho (1st round talent). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atljbo Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 Dude reads his scouting rpt.http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/perrish-cox?id=494265He is a returner who happens to play corner."Talented return man who scores touchdowns.""Cox needs technique work as a secondary defender and likely will have his biggest impact on special teams in his rookie season."Dude have you watched college football.... He is a CB who happens to be able to return kicks..... The guy is a good CB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
head busta from augusta Posted March 2, 2010 Author Share Posted March 2, 2010 (edited) Dude have you watched college football.... He is a CB who happens to be able to return kicks..... The guy is a good CBNo one will ever confuse this guy with a shut down corner which is what you would want in the first round. H@ll he only has 10 int for his career! Edited March 2, 2010 by Head Busta From Augusta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
head busta from augusta Posted March 2, 2010 Author Share Posted March 2, 2010 ints do not = shutdown. Shut down = not being even thrown at, just FYI. That's taking away an entire side of the field. Ints = corner who was being tested and is a playmaker, both are good things, but a shut down guy, like Aso, doesn't even get thrown at to get INTs.Well using that logic he was throw to more in his senior than any other year does than mean he was not as respected? When your team was ranked 89 out of 120 team as pass def and you are the best DB what does that tell you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayrockthabarber Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 ints do not = shutdown. Shut down = not being even thrown at, just FYI. That's taking away an entire side of the field. Ints = corner who was being tested and is a playmaker, both are good things, but a shut down guy, like Aso, doesn't even get thrown at to get INTs.Reavis was a guy who also didn't have an awesome 40 time and he's arguably the best CB in the NFL now. I don't put much stock in 40 times I worry more about ball skills than anything else. Also we have a guy now in Houston who ran a 4.3 and has horrible ball skills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
head busta from augusta Posted March 2, 2010 Author Share Posted March 2, 2010 Reavis was a guy who also didn't have an awesome 40 time and he's arguably the best CB in the NFL now. I don't put much stock in 40 times I worry more about ball skills than anything else. Also we have a guy now in Houston who ran a 4.3 and has horrible ball skills.Revis ran a 4.38? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayrockthabarber Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 Revis ran a 4.38?When? His pro day or something cause it wasn't the combine and even if it was it doesn't matter his ball skill are what make him so good! Again Houston ran a 4.3 and has horrible ball skills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
head busta from augusta Posted March 2, 2010 Author Share Posted March 2, 2010 Exactly.... Chris Owens ran a 4.5 official time last year..... Indy has a slow track.... Thats why its impressive if a guy runs in the 4.3s or 4.2's'Heck Jowe Haden ran a 4.57 and 4.60But yea... Cox will run a 4.4 at his pro day and team workouts.... He is a 2nd round pick tho (1st round talent).Owens ran a 4.4 at combine accuracy is creditability and was suppose to be a nb not a 1st/2nd round pick! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
head busta from augusta Posted March 2, 2010 Author Share Posted March 2, 2010 When? His pro day or something cause it wasn't the combine and even if it was it doesn't matter his ball skill are what make him so good! Again Houston ran a 4.3 and has horrible ball skills.http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/07076/770278-233.stmAre we thru here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atljbo Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 No one will ever confuse this guy with a shut down corner which is what you would want in the first round. H@ll he only has 10 int for his career!LMAO... Dude he has shut down some of the best WR's in the nation.... And if you know college football.. 10 ints is allot....He is not a 1st round pick because he can be a bit inconsistent against lesser talent... The guy is a big physical CB with ball hawking skills.Chris Owens left college with 11 or 12 ints and he was considered a ball hawk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayrockthabarber Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 Are we thru here?Um.......no have you noticed that most kids time are lower at their pro days than at the combine?!?! Anyway like I said and i'll say it again I could care less about 40 times ball skills are more important too me and most kids 40 times don't translate to the field anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
head busta from augusta Posted March 2, 2010 Author Share Posted March 2, 2010 Um.......no have you noticed that most kids time are lower at their pro days than at the combine?!?! Anyway like I said and i'll say it again I could care less about 40 times ball skills are more important too me and most kids 40 times don't translate to the field anyway. Correct but name me one corner in the last 6-7 yrs ran a 4.5 and is consider a decent corner? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
head busta from augusta Posted March 2, 2010 Author Share Posted March 2, 2010 That kid from Kansas City, he played for Va tech, forget his name, had a really good shot at defensive rookie of the year 2 years ago. He's a good corner and ran somewhere in the 4.6 range.The fact you don't know his name tells me everything! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayrockthabarber Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 Correct but name me one corner in the last 6-7 yrs ran a 4.5 and is consider a decent corner?I'm quit sure there are plenty but like I said that doesn't matter. How many of those guys that run sub 4.5 actually run 40 yds in a straight line. That may happen 4-5 times a game even those guys get beat when the QB has time to throw the ball. Again ball skills, ball skills, ball skills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g6773a Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 Correct but name me one corner in the last 6-7 yrs ran a 4.5 and is consider a decent corner?Chris McAlister ran a 4.53 and he was a pretty solid CB. How many CBs have run under a 4.4 and been a bust?The 40 is the most overrated combine statistic! Who cares how fast a guy runs in shorts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atljbo Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 That kid from Kansas City, he played for Va tech, forget his name, had a really good shot at defensive rookie of the year 2 years ago. He's a good corner and ran somewhere in the 4.6 range.Brandon Flowers is the guy you are talking about.Like Mike Mayock said... When he watched Perrish Cox on tape... He saw 4.4 speedPerrish Cox has 1st round talent but he will end up being a 2nd round pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bossFALCON™ Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 Correct but name me one corner in the last 6-7 yrs ran a 4.5 and is consider a decent corner?http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/2003/draft/players/5496.htmlowned and if you want more i can throw more at you. you guys are really placing too much emphasis on the 40 times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
head busta from augusta Posted March 2, 2010 Author Share Posted March 2, 2010 http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/2003/draft/players/5496.htmlowned and if you want more i can throw more at you. you guys are really placing too much emphasis on the 40 times.Not that I'm really trying to keep this going but young man what you are looking at is a scouting report nothing more than projection he was actually clocked at 4.48 nice try but got back and do your research before posting thanks! Defensive back Nnamdi Asomugha of Cal ran a 4.48 in the 40-yard dash at the combine in February, then improved his time with a 4.38 at the university. Once considered to be a fifth- or sixth-round selection, Asomugha could now leap into the second or third round.http://www.nytimes.com/2003/04/23/sports/pro-football-nfl-draft-image-is-no.1-pick.html?pagewanted=1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g6773a Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 (edited) Correct but name me one corner in the last 6-7 yrs ran a 4.5 and is consider a decent corner?Got another for you...Buffalo CB/KR Terrence McGeeLinkand another Chris GambleLinkMarlin Jackson/59889.html'>LinkEllis HobbsLinkAntonio CromartieLink Edited March 2, 2010 by g6773a Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
head busta from augusta Posted March 2, 2010 Author Share Posted March 2, 2010 Got another for you...Buffalo CB/KR Terrence McGeeLinkGreat but I wouldn't draft McGee in the first 2 rounds. So we got Terrence McGee as a comparison to draft someone projected in the first or second! I think we should aim just a little bit higher.P.S. drafted in 4th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g6773a Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 I did aim a little higher... check out the edited post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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