oregonsfan 4 Posted January 5, 2010 Share Posted January 5, 2010 If it happens, this will not be good news: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/01/04/texans-line-up-offensive-coordinator-candiates/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bossFALCON™ 2,178 Posted January 5, 2010 Share Posted January 5, 2010 noooooooo! i really hope he doesn't go. i like musgrave and i think he would probably be a good OC if mularkey ever got the boot. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
falconfanatic87 28 Posted January 5, 2010 Share Posted January 5, 2010 I didn't take time to read the article, but why would he NOT want to continue to work with Matt Ryan? Kids gonna be a stud, he could take some credit for that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
moe szyslak 19 Posted January 5, 2010 Share Posted January 5, 2010 (edited) I didn't take time to read the article, but why would he NOT want to continue to work with Matt Ryan? Kids gonna be a stud, he could take some credit for that.because offensive coordinator would be a significant promotion and a lot more money. the same reason most people change jobs. Edited January 5, 2010 by moe szyslak Quote Link to post Share on other sites
texasbirdfan 18 Posted January 5, 2010 Share Posted January 5, 2010 Time for Blank to pony up some big cash... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DirtyBirdSupabowl 420 Posted January 5, 2010 Share Posted January 5, 2010 I wouldn't be mad if he left, he did a very good job but I think Ryan has learned so much that it shouldn't hurt him next year. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dedsquirl 290 Posted January 5, 2010 Share Posted January 5, 2010 Come on Chan Gailey!Nail that interview! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BlacksburgHokie 241 Posted January 5, 2010 Share Posted January 5, 2010 Didn't he already flop in his first two OC opportunities? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tweek 0 Posted January 5, 2010 Share Posted January 5, 2010 Come on Chan Gailey!Nail that interview!We're doomed. Who the phuck would want Gailey as OC? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dedsquirl 290 Posted January 5, 2010 Share Posted January 5, 2010 We're doomed. Who the phuck would want Gailey as OC?Hopefully the Texans. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sporkdevil 1,027 Posted January 5, 2010 Share Posted January 5, 2010 I didn't take time to read the article, but why would he NOT want to continue to work with Matt Ryan? Kids gonna be a stud, he could take some credit for that.Cause he worked with Schaub in college, and was probably one of the main reasons we drafted him. Sounds like a good reason.I really hope not. I think he has been a very good QB coordinator, and possible OC. Not sure who we would get to fill the position if he went to Texas. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Goodoleboy58 73 Posted January 5, 2010 Share Posted January 5, 2010 The Texans offense is ridiculous... he'd have success their easily with AJ and company... Why wouldnt he leave for there? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
etherdome 6,314 Posted January 5, 2010 Share Posted January 5, 2010 I hope Smith has a list of possible replacements. One of those guys could be Ryan's HC from BC. That guy was fired by TB this year. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
d-rod 2 Posted January 5, 2010 Share Posted January 5, 2010 I hope Smith has a list of possible replacements. One of those guys could be Ryan's HC from BC. That guy was fired by TB this year.Jagz is an offensive line coach at heart, I think, not a QB coach. But I suppose it's not impossible, guys do sometimes move around. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wordtobigbird 962 Posted January 5, 2010 Share Posted January 5, 2010 anyone know who peyton manning or tom bradys QB coach is or how many theyve had? i hope ryan success isnt on the shoulders of a QB coach, no matter how good everyone says he is. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JDaveG 42,549 Posted January 5, 2010 Share Posted January 5, 2010 Musgrave was more important to Vick's development than Ryan's.Which isn't to say he isn't important -- he's a solid QB coach. The point is, Ryan's mechanics and fundamentals, while needing work (particularly footwork this season), are good enough that he doesn't need to be constantly coached up. He's just more of a natural passer, so I don't think Musgrave's departure if it happens will be any more than a speedbump in his development.Having said that, I hope he stays. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
maxatlanta 1,326 Posted January 5, 2010 Share Posted January 5, 2010 If Musgrave goes, it makes it that much more important to keep Redman. I don't think Musgrave is vital to Ryan's success, but he is definately a great QB coach. Smitty has one of the best staffs in the league, I'm sure the job of working with Smitty and coaching Ryan is attractive. We'll be ok no matter the outcome. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
phattywankenobi 2,835 Posted January 5, 2010 Share Posted January 5, 2010 I can see the Schaub connection but other than a couple of quick stints at OC there are probably better qualified or more experienced OC's to have. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
maxatlanta 1,326 Posted January 5, 2010 Share Posted January 5, 2010 Let me also throw this out there. If Musgrave goes there is a guy out there who IMO would actually be an upgrade... Jim Zorn. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
juiceaccts 238 Posted January 5, 2010 Share Posted January 5, 2010 Yeah, Ryan definitely had some footwork problems for a few games there but came back at the end of the season and played pretty well.Thats a joke. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sdogg 9,791 Posted January 5, 2010 Share Posted January 5, 2010 Take Mularkey instead. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Falco4 246 Posted January 5, 2010 Share Posted January 5, 2010 Jagz is an offensive line coach at heart, I think, not a QB coach. But I suppose it's not impossible, guys do sometimes move around.That might be a possible answer, although I'm not sure how much credit Jags should get for Ryan's success (He definitely deserves credit for changing BC's style from conservative to aggressive playcalling). Steve Logan was the offensive coordinator that year and he was known for his pass-heavy offense.Also, Jags was fired by the Bucs. I'm not sure how much weight that carries, but something must have been wrong with his philosophy.In any case, there's no way the falcons would hire Jags before Weis. There's no argument, Weis is a much better OC. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NewFalcon 5,110 Posted January 5, 2010 Share Posted January 5, 2010 Musgrave was more important to Vick's development than Ryan's.Which isn't to say he isn't important -- he's a solid QB coach. The point is, Ryan's mechanics and fundamentals, while needing work (particularly footwork this season), are good enough that he doesn't need to be constantly coached up. He's just more of a natural passer, so I don't think Musgrave's departure if it happens will be any more than a speedbump in his development.Having said that, I hope he stays.Some good points Dave.I want the Falcons to have the best cadre of coaches in the NFL--coaches that will maximize the performance of each player and enhance our chances of winning football games. TD and Smitty may or may not be able to offer Musgrave (or another Falcons coach) the football opportunity/promotion or financial incentive to remain with the team if the coach is approached with a great offer from another team. While I do believe that stability in coaching philosophy, methodology, and personality is important to maintain continuity within 'the process', it is equally important to recognize the reality that your good quality coaches are always on the radar screen of other NFL teams, and probably some college teams. I believe that TD and Smitty keep a list of coaching candidates that they monitor throughout the season so that they can be reasonably prepared in the event that one or more of the staff is offered an opportunity with another team. It's the same dilemma we face as leaders and managers in our work environments: Our best staff/associates are always the people being courted by another department or company, because they have demonstrated the best results, have higher upside and potential. You might be able to slow the turnover by offering promotions if they are available, or by an increase in pay/benefits; however, these tend to only slow the turnover rate--some of your best people will always have aspirations you can't meet in a timetable that will satisfy their desire to advance. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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