Falcons_own_nfc_south Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 Under PressureMatt Ryan, QB, AtlantaYou know the old quarterback line: "The quarterback gets too much credit when you win, and too much blame when you lose." Most often, I buy it. But Ryan's getting bashed a little too much for my taste in the Falcons' precipitous slide, seeing that he's still put up 22 points a game in Atlanta's 1-3 skid.But he's also not seeing the field as well, and part of being a great quarterback is finding a way to extend drives to keep a poor defense off the field. And make no mistake about it: The Atlanta defense has slid since a solid 4-1 start.I also think as much as Ryan's gained with the addition of tight end Tony Gonzalez, he's lost with the subtraction of slot receiver Harry Douglas, who was a revelation as a rookie last year, as Ryan was. I think he needs to be checking down more, particularly if Michael Turner's out this week with his ankle injury. It's early in his career to have the weight of the team on your shoulders, but that's exactly what Ryan will feel Sunday in New Jersey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
21 Falcon Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 No, no.....we have experts here like WeakNoodlePenis who say it is ALL Matt Ryan's fault!! These guys know WAAAAAYYYYY more than some schmoe like Peter King!I have confidence that Falcons and Matt Ryan will figure out what's going on. No doubt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcons0081 Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 (edited) There is no excuse for his bad play as of late. Getting hit and taking on pressure is part of the game. He must adapt and overcome. Edited November 21, 2009 by Falcons0081 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
21 Falcon Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 There is no excuse for his bad play as of late. Getting hit and taking on pressure is part of the game. He must adapt and overcome.Everyone agrees with that. Peter King does as well. But saying things like bench Ryan for Redman makes people look dumber than a box of rocks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiViK_OuTkAsT™ Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 Checking down more? That is 99 percent of what I see us doing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithbrooking56 Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 Checking down more? That is 99 percent of what I see us doing.This. What Ryan's problem is (other than having happy feet and throwing the ball away far too many times) his inability to look past Gonzo to find another target. He's simply trying to find the TE far too much instead of checking to see if White or Jenkins is open then checking down to the TE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoYouSeeWhatHappensLarry Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 Checking down more is the exact reason Jerious needs to get back and be healthy.Harry and Jerious would both have benefitted a ton from Gonzo and Roddy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HouseofEuphoria Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 we have experts here like WeakNoodlePenis LMAO!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durrty Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 Why haven't we put Weems at the slot??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goal Line D Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 Why haven't we put Weems at the slot??? Excellent question. I think he'd do nicely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durrty Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 I think Weems will add the speed that we're missing at the slot...He'll make a great target for Ryan to check down to when Gonzalez is being double teamed. Once teams begin focusing in on him, it could open up better opportunities for Jenkins and Booker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radiohead Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 Ya, It really does not make any sense why the coaches wont give Weems a chance in the slot? Maybe they want to make sure Harry Douglas doesn't get nervous or anxious that his spot may be up for grabs even though he's injured. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigmildog Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 A good read. Peter King is right though Ryan is missing Douglas and Jenkins hasn't played that well this season either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durrty Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 A good read. Peter King is right though Ryan is missing Douglas and Jenkins hasn't played that well this season either.Because teams can easily drop six in the backfield on us...part of it is scheme too. Mularkey needs to draw up some better routes to expose our opponents' coverages. Slants, curls, etc. can keep them honest when they try to drop that many back...it's one reason why Turner has had three consecutive 100+ yard games...teams are scheming to stop Ryan now. IMO, we don't need to be an explosive offense, but an effective one, ****, Ryan can dink and dunk it all day as long as it ends in seven. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Don™ Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 Pure guess here, Weems isn't in the slot b/c the coaches don't want to tire him out since he does PR/KR duties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durrty Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 Did Douglas get tired when he held both duties last year as a rookie? This is the NFL...I'm sure Weems is capable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Don™ Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 Did Douglas get tired when he held both duties last year as a rookie? This is the NFL...I'm sure Weems is capable.He didn't do KR, AND he didn't do PR until Jennings got in the middle of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millenium falcon Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 could'nt agree more about impact of loss of douglas. also agree that ryan could check down more, but the biggest problem i see is that he is throwing into double coverage and not seeing a more open option. he needs to stop throwing to guys that are bracketed over/under. also micheal jenkins sucks, he has the hands of a cross eyed dyslexic. i crossed him off my draft list after his piss poor sr bowl, and i would not have re-signed him. i want to find a true #2 to help roddy and cut jenkins as soon as his contract allows it. ryan needs a RB for 3rd downs that can run and recieve and i like ben tate in rd 3 for that very reason. if we cant get a WR then atleast get a TE that can be the #2 TE and take over for gonzalez when he is done. peele is a keeper as #3, zinger is a goner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HouseofEuphoria Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 atleast get a TE that can be the #2 TE and take over for gonzalez when he is done. peele is a keeper as #3, zinger is a goner.Never understood why we released Ben Hartsock. He was great at run-blocking and pass-blocking but we kept Peele and Zinger? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyhole Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 Did Douglas get tired when he held both duties last year as a rookie? This is the NFL...I'm sure Weems is capable.Yeah come on. Doesn't DeSean Jackson (#1) handle punt returns for the Eagles? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdz4i Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 Why haven't we put Weems at the slot??? heck why don t we put anybody in the slot? i m tired of seeing base packages on passing downs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gritz Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 Our "creativity" is very lacking when it comes to our offensive play calling.If I see that quarterback waggle, or roll-out to the right sideline again tomorrow I swear I might take hostages at an Arby's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goal Line D Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 Our "creativity" is very lacking when it comes to our offensive play calling.If I see that quarterback waggle, or roll-out to the right sideline again tomorrow I swear I might take hostages at an Arby's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Templar Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 I've been wondering about the offensive play calling too. Most times it has seemed fairly obvious to me what is coming. I wonder if this has anything to do with the injuries to Norwood and Douglas. Both of these guys are so explosive that they can cause a defense fits. Without them, nothing against the other players, but defenses have been able to focus on coverage of Roddy and Tony on passing downs and key on Turner or Snelling on the running downs. Also, from the packages we've been sending on the field, its been pretty easy to determine run or pass lately. And all that being said...if Elam weren't going through this funk, the Falcons should still be 7-2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireDawg85 Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 I think Weems will add the speed that we're missing at the slot...He'll make a great target for Ryan to check down to when Gonzalez is being double teamed. Once teams begin focusing in on him, it could open up better opportunities for Jenkins and Booker.So let me get this straight.. You want Gonzo, Jenkins, Booker, Weems, and White all on the field at once? What about RB? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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