Atlsport Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 The game audio that I hear when watching is the Falcons radio broadcast - Durham and Archer. Yesterday when Elam missed his kick, Durham was pointing out that he saw something that caused Elam to go way off. He said that the LS Pittman did or didn't do something, from what I could tell he missed a count and the result was that when the ball was snapped to Koenen, Elam's timing was already off.Now I'm not making excuses for Elam, his is just about the lowest percentage of active kickers in the league and he's had problems since the beginning of the season but remember that Schneck our LS went injured earlier this month and have a new guy, Pittman in there now. If nothing else is the curse of Boone that lives.Did the tv crew mention that, or did anyone at the game notice anything? I couldn't tell since you only see the kicker from tv coverage, but Durham made it sound as though it was easily noticed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Statick Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 I saw Elam hitch forward twice as if he didn't know the snap, but he's a veteran kicker and should be prepared when things don't go well. He blamed everyone but himself on that terrible miss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top Flight Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 still a chip shot...he should have made it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncja Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 The game audio that I hear when watching is the Falcons radio broadcast - Durham and Archer. Yesterday when Elam missed his kick, Durham was pointing out that he saw something that caused Elam to go way off. He said that the LS Pittman did or didn't do something, from what I could tell he missed a count and the result was that when the ball was snapped to Koenen, Elam's timing was already off.Now I'm not making excuses for Elam, his is just about the lowest percentage of active kickers in the league and he's had problems since the beginning of the season but remember that Schneck our LS went injured earlier this month and have a new guy, Pittman in there now. If nothing else is the curse of Boone that lives.Did the tv crew mention that, or did anyone at the game notice anything? I couldn't tell since you only see the kicker from tv coverage, but Durham made it sound as though it was easily noticed.Yeah they commented on it, and showed the replay. It was if Elam expected it snapped so he started to go, the ball didn't come, he had to reset, did it again, had to reset then it came. It wasn't like he took a step, but more of a flinch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCFalconfan Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 Got to wonder why a false start wasn't called there...Strange set of refs yesterday, Delhomme was taking a step forward before the snap in shotgun all day yesterday as well. Probably should have had about 10 false start penalty's between the two teams. Needless to say, there were probably 20 kids from area high schools that could have made that kick yesterday. No excuse for shanking that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phattywankenobi Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 I saw Elam jump before the snap so something was definitely off and I in that instance was nervous as to what would happen next. LS, holder, and kicker have to be in perfect sync or this happens. Elam has already been off some but that certainly screwed things up whatever it was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top Flight Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 wonderin if that is a false start?? lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wook21 Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 I seen him miss it and countless others this year extra points chip shots you name it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev_Hal Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 The game audio that I hear when watching is the Falcons radio broadcast - Durham and Archer. Yesterday when Elam missed his kick, Durham was pointing out that he saw something that caused Elam to go way off. He said that the LS Pittman did or didn't do something, from what I could tell he missed a count and the result was that when the ball was snapped to Koenen, Elam's timing was already off.Now I'm not making excuses for Elam, his is just about the lowest percentage of active kickers in the league and he's had problems since the beginning of the season but remember that Schneck our LS went injured earlier this month and have a new guy, Pittman in there now. If nothing else is the curse of Boone that lives.Did the tv crew mention that, or did anyone at the game notice anything? I couldn't tell since you only see the kicker from tv coverage, but Durham made it sound as though it was easily noticed. Timing was off, but still, he had the opportunity to make that kick. The ball was snapped, the ball was down, and he shanked it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yell darb Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 did anyone else see the way he stared back at koenen. it didnt look like a bad hold, just the mistiming on the snap. elam had a nice run and all, but if it came down to a 45 yarder to get us into the playoffs i would have NO faith in Elam to get the job done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nobkowski Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 Elam did flinch twice, but the snap and hold were PERFECT. Why he was flinching I don't know. I do know the snap and hold were perfect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karst41 Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 This was like real ugly man. and no excuse for it either.Elam should have called for a time out or even allow for a delay penalty. Anything man.One thing that is very clear is that they are not getting enough practice reps due toElams hammy.In the NO game one of Elams misses was due to a really bad position of the ballwhich was the holders fault.At any rate these 2 need to be running 20 laps today and at least 300 practice snapsand kicks this week.Need more Coffee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyofish Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 I saw Elam hitch forward twice as if he didn't know the snap, but he's a veteran kicker and should be prepared when things don't go well. He blamed everyone but himself on that terrible miss.It would have been understandable if he's kicking it from the 40 but that was a chip shot. He wasn't even close on the kick. Panthers didn't rush him hard at all as if they were just giving it to him. When Elam missed he quickly looked back to Koenan as if he botched it up. Elam was close to missing the 24 yd field goal in the 3rd quarter as it barley made it inside the right upright. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlsport Posted November 16, 2009 Author Share Posted November 16, 2009 Got to wonder why a false start wasn't called there...Strange set of refs yesterday, Delhomme was taking a step forward before the snap in shotgun all day yesterday as well. Probably should have had about 10 false start penalty's between the two teams. Needless to say, there were probably 20 kids from area high schools that could have made that kick yesterday. No excuse for shanking that.I don't think they would or even can call a false start on the PK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kschreck Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 As a former high school and college kicker I can tell you that the norm is the kicker goes on the snap so if anything the fault is on Elam for that also. Maybe there are some timing things they have down from having practiced together but ultimately Elam shouldn't even flinch until the snap. The hold however, has everything to do with it. If the ball wasn't held in the position Elam likes (is used to) this could have affected the kick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenB321 Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 Yeah they commented on it, and showed the replay. It was if Elam expected it snapped so he started to go, the ball didn't come, he had to reset, did it again, had to reset then it came. It wasn't like he took a step, but more of a flinch.Yeah I saw it too. When I saw him move then reset I thought to myself this is not good. It looked like it messed up his timing. But again no excuse for Elam and no excuse for Ryan either. Ryan just is killing us with these freakin ints. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obmann Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 One thing is for sure.If Elam is the kicker at the game in New York, I cannot look the field goal tries. Because it hurts too much, if I see crucial misses again. It is not a dome, it is one of the toughest places to kick.(heinz field is probably the toughest)And the falcons want to kick it with Elam, who has so many questions at the moment? I have a bad feeling about that. He kicks so low, that it is only a matter of time, when he gets blocked and the falcons get a return for a TD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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