A little perspective on the Matt Ryan hate

[Peyton]

The INTs have been a bummer, no doubt. The second throw today was bad in a lot of different ways, that can't be denied.

But overall, it's hard to say that Matt Ryan is playing badly. The QBs job is to put points on the board. The Falcons have scored 19 points or more in every game except 1, and they would have had atleast 20 points in the two 19 point games if not for Elam misses.

In a way, this has been one of the most consistent offenses this franchise has ever had.

He'll get this interception thing corrected.

The Falcons aren't going to the Super Bowl this year, that is reality. But you're dreaming if you think Matt Ryan is going to the bench.

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Vick Lovers and Poser Fans have to make up 60% of the hate here.

The rest would be legitimate gripes.

[Infinitepwnz]

Vick Lovers and Poser Fans have to make up 60% of the hate here.

The rest would be legitimate gripes.

Yea that is pretty accurate.. You've got your vick lovers that lurk the msg board waiting for Ryan to make a mistake. As soon as he does BAM here they are..

[Peyton]

I don't really have a problem with people griping about his play, you know, just venting. It's the "bench him" mentality that is silly.

[Jesus]

At least he's not Cutler

[SWIFT HITTER]

Disagree

Ryan is playing real bad..He is not making any plays when need be so. He is forcing the ball into Tony Gonzalez when we get down into the red zone . He is not letting plays develop in the pocket by getting happy feet and scrambling out of pocket and then throwing the play away. Where is the touch on the long ball ..He is not hitting his mark .

Plus he is throwing a bunch of ints and turning the ball over. something he didnt do last year up until the end

[Ice1974]

The INTs have been a bummer, no doubt. The second throw today was bad in a lot of different ways, that can't be denied.

But overall, it's hard to say that Matt Ryan is playing badly. The QBs job is to put points on the board. The Falcons have scored 19 points or more in every game except 1, and they would have had atleast 20 points in the two 19 point games if not for Elam misses.

In a way, this has been one of the most consistent offenses this franchise has ever had.

He'll get this interception thing corrected.

The Falcons aren't going to the Super Bowl this year, that is reality. But you're dreaming if you think Matt Ryan is going to the bench.

I'll give you that, but when a teams D is as bad as ours is, you can not give the other team the ball again and again, our D is already facing an uphill battle,

I said this before, no reason Ryan should throw the ball on that INT, take the sack(especially on 1st down) with the ball at mid field, and after a big punt return(momentum), Ryan has to know these things, especially if everyone keeps talking about how hes got a great understanding of the game

[Peyton]

I'll give you that, but when a teams D is as bad as ours is, you can not give the other team the ball again and again, our D is already facing an uphill battle,

I said this before, no reason Ryan should throw the ball on that INT, take the sack(especially on 1st down) with the ball at mid field, and after a big punt return(momentum), Ryan has to know these things, especially if everyone keeps talking about how hes got a great understanding of the game

Well, you've hit on the more pressing problem with this team. The defense isn't good, and it's going in the wrong direction.

[USS BABINEAUX]

Ryan 31 TD's 19 INT's 21 Sacks....

14 TD's 12 INT's 12 Sacks....

That's not a projected statline for 09. That's his senior year on top, and 09 on bottom. Looks stunningly similar.

[War Damn Eagle]

I don't really have a problem with people griping about his play, you know, just venting. It's the "bench him" mentality that is silly.

I first became concerned after going to the Dallas game. There were several things that became evident during that game:

1. Ryan's arm strength has to improve. The difference between his and Romo's was huge. Since then, I 've noticed that Rodgers, Brady, Cutler and even McNabb have much better strength.

2. The receivers aren't getting open, period. I don't know if it's playcalling or lack of effort but Ryan rarely has an open guy to throw to other than Gonzalez.

3. We don't run enough slant routes and spend too much time playing the sidelines. I'd run the slant routes until they find a way to stop it.

4. It seems whenever we try to go downfield it's too often to Jenkins. He IS NOT a playmaker. Those throws need to go to White.

5. We REALLY miss Harry Douglas.

[Peyton]

Ryan 31 TD's 19 INT's 21 Sacks....

14 TD's 12 INT's 12 Sacks....

That's not a projected statline for 09. That's his senior year on top, and 09 on bottom. Looks stunningly similar.

Yawn.

Brett Favre has averaged 20 INTs per season over the last 5 years. He is still starting for a team that is 8-1, and he is going to the HOF.

You guys who want to give up on Ryan because he is having a bad streak with the INTs can give it up. He is the QB in Atlanta and is going to be for a looooooong time.

[Peyton]

I first became concerned after going to the Dallas game. There were several things that became evident during that game:

1. Ryan's arm strength has to improve. The difference between his and Romo's was huge. Since then, I 've noticed that Rodgers, Brady, Cutler and even McNabb have much better strength.

2. The receivers aren't getting open, period. I don't know if it's playcalling or lack of effort but Ryan rarely has an open guy to throw to other than Gonzalez.

3. We don't run enough slant routes and spend too much time playing the sidelines. I'd run the slant routes until they find a way to stop it.

4. It seems whenever we try to go downfield it's too often to Jenkins. He IS NOT a playmaker. Those throws need to go to White.

5. We REALLY miss Harry Douglas.

Yeah I pretty much agree with all of that.

[USS BABINEAUX]

Yawn.

Brett Favre has averaged 20 INTs per season over the last 5 years. He is still starting for a team that is 8-1, and he is going to the HOF.

You guys who want to give up on Ryan because he is having a bad streak with the INTs can give it up. He is the QB in Atlanta and is going to be for a looooooong time.

So we need to get used to Ryan handing the game over to the other team? As we have seen him do before.

[Jesus]

I first became concerned after going to the Dallas game. There were several things that became evident during that game:

1. Ryan's arm strength has to improve. The difference between his and Romo's was huge. Since then, I 've noticed that Rodgers, Brady, Cutler and even McNabb have much better strength.

2. The receivers aren't getting open, period. I don't know if it's playcalling or lack of effort but Ryan rarely has an open guy to throw to other than Gonzalez.

3. We don't run enough slant routes and spend too much time playing the sidelines. I'd run the slant routes until they find a way to stop it.

4. It seems whenever we try to go downfield it's too often to Jenkins. He IS NOT a playmaker. Those throws need to go to White.

5. We REALLY miss Harry Douglas.

1. Rodgers and Cutler aren't very good and have never started for a winning team

Brady is out of this world and McNabb throws too much which hurts the Eagles bad.

2. I don't understand where that automatic 3rd down conversion from last year went. Ryan was so good at that. I think it might be a confidence thing.

3. I agree. Put the receivers in front of Ryan. That works so well for Brady.

4. That big catch and run by White today was the kind of things he was doing last year so well and we miss this year.

5. Enough about Douglas. He wasn't that big of a threat last year. He made some big plays but he still cant jump 10 feet in the air. Ryan is off but not by much. It is correctable.

As for the D they played well in the second half and gave our offense every opportunity to win this game. Execution is what failed us. We fell apart after the missed FG. Emotion runs high in games like this.

[Tax-Falcon]

There is no "hate" here. That's probably one of the most misused words, anyway. People need to accept that Ryan's playing bad - interceptions aside, he's been throwing lots of incomplete passes and getting anxious in the pocket.

Will he get out of this slump? I don't doubt it, but please let's not pretend that our quarterback is struggling mightily.

[Peyton]

So we need to get used to Ryan handing the game over to the other team? As we have seen him do before.

I've got 1 question quiz for you. Since Matt Ryan has been the starting QB of Atlanta, how many days has this franchise had a losing record?

[Peyton]

There is no "hate" here. That's probably one of the most misused words, anyway. People need to accept that Ryan's playing bad - interceptions aside, he's been throwing lots of incomplete passes and getting anxious in the pocket.

Will he get out of this slump? I don't doubt it, but please let's not pretend that our quarterback is struggling mightily.

Our passing game is struggling in general. It's more than just him, although he's thrown some very bad passes recently.

But I completely disagree with you that there isn't "hate" here.

Either way, Ryan's not finding any bench any time soon. The Falcons are scoring points as consistently as most any team they have ever had.

[Peyton]

1. Rodgers and Cutler aren't very good and have never started for a winning team

Brady is out of this world and McNabb throws too much which hurts the Eagles bad.

2. I don't understand where that automatic 3rd down conversion from last year went. Ryan was so good at that. I think it might be a confidence thing.

3. I agree. Put the receivers in front of Ryan. That works so well for Brady.

4. That big catch and run by White today was the kind of things he was doing last year so well and we miss this year.

5. Enough about Douglas. He wasn't that big of a threat last year. He made some big plays but he still cant jump 10 feet in the air. Ryan is off but not by much. It is correctable.

As for the D they played well in the second half and gave our offense every opportunity to win this game. Execution is what failed us. We fell apart after the missed FG. Emotion runs high in games like this.

Yeah if the D plays well in the second half after giving up 21 points in the first, that really isn't a formula for winning.

[Tax-Falcon]

Our passing game is struggling in general. It's more than just him, although he's thrown some very bad passes recently.

But I completely disagree with you that there isn't "hate" here.

Either way, Ryan's not finding any bench any time soon. The Falcons are scoring points as consistently as most any team they have ever had.

This message board is so far beyond homerism, so any time someone says something that isn't entirely "RAH RAH Falcons," they get deemed as a troll and a fraud fan. Of course, there are legitimate trolls here and they're not hard to spot, but everyone that offers insight that isn't the norm isn't a troll.

Of course Ryan isn't finding the bench, he's our franchise quarterback. But that's irrelevant to Ryan's struggles.

[Mr.Pickles]

How did Vick get in this thread. SMH. The thing with the whole Offense is that people thought we were going to be the Colts or the Pats. I know I thought we were going to take that next step forward. Ryan is getting worse. Some stuff can be corrected like stop staring down your WR. Esp Gonzo. Until we get a line we better hope that we don't turn him into Carr

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I've got 1 question quiz for you. Since Matt Ryan has been the starting QB of Atlanta, how many days has this franchise had a losing record?

Nice +1

[Jesus]

Yeah if the D plays well in the second half after giving up 21 points in the first, that really isn't a formula for winning.

Yep but we still had every chance to win.

This is the kind of defense the Saints play every week and they're 9-0.

[DemDirtyBirds4]

I don't really have a problem with people griping about his play, you know, just venting. It's the "bench him" mentality that is silly.

Exactly, we all can agree he can play alot better and he is in a slump. But the one talking about benching him are crazy.

[Peyton]

How did Vick get in this thread. SMH. The thing with the whole Offense is that people thought we were going to be the Colts or the Pats. I know I thought we were going to take that next step forward. Ryan is getting worse. Some stuff can be corrected like stop staring down your WR. Esp Gonzo. Until we get a line we better hope that we don't turn him into Carr

With the injuries, this team just doesn't enough talent on offense, and I think Mularkey only has 12 plays in his playbook.

If I do have a concern about Ryan, it's that Mularkey isn't the guy to take him to the next level.

[Peyton]

Yep but we still had every chance to win.

This is the kind of defense the Saints play every week and they're 9-0.

The Saints have way more talent on offense than the Falcons. We've got 1 receiver, they have 3. We have 1 RB, they have 3. We aren't the Saints, unfortunately.