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  1. 1. Who's to Blame???

    • Matt Ryan - sudden break down and dare i say a 'sophomore slump'
    • The Offensive Line - being shown as the "overachievers" we thought they were
    • The PlayCalling - Mike Mularkey's lack of scheme explotation


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I'm 1000 percent optimistic that every facet of our team will be better than before the year before but for right now: WHAT THE HECK IS UP WITH MATT AND THE PASSING GAME??? 135 YARDS IN THE AIR TOTAL?! Seriously?! Why can't this offense seem to get everything online??? Who's Responsible For This???

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I'm 1000 percent optimistic that every facet of our team will be better than before the year before but for right now: WHAT THE HECK IS UP WITH MATT AND THE PASSING GAME??? 135 YARDS IN THE AIR TOTAL?! Seriously?! Why can't this offense seem to get everything online??? Who's Responsible For This???

you forgot none of the above

The Redskins defense gives up an avg of 283 yards per game, while giving up 165 yards through the air....

And why take the ball away from Turner? he was having a great game again...last week everyone complained that we stopped giving the ball to Turner and now that we did give it to him that want Ryan to pass more...

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- When Ryan signed, he became the fourth-highest paid player in the NFL

- Projected 2009 Stats: 3555 passing yards, 20 total TDs, 13 INTs

Current 2009 Stats: 1784 passing yards, 14 total TDs, 10 INTs

- DRAFT PROFILE:

Negatives: His deep passes sail on him too frequently. Is a gunslinger and tries to do too much, which leads to interceptions... must learn to work with what he is given. Lower body mechanics needs work... shoddy footwork at times. Needs to improve his decision making when flushed out of the pocket. May develop fumblitis.

Outlook: The type of football player who you know was born to be a quarterback. If Ryan can refine his footwork and improve his deep passes, he will be the complete package. Has absolutely everything you look for in an NFL signal caller in terms of mental approach and has good enough physical tools to get it done. Will likely win at least one super bowl before his career is over. Is at least as good a prospect as Philip Rivers was coming out in 2004.

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How about none of the above, Matt Ryan doesn't suck. Seriously, there are dumb people on this board. How many passing yards did you expect when we had a whole 3 plays in the 3rd quarter and just ran out the clock when we had it in the 4th. Not only that but the run was working so we did that alot... oh and the Redskins have a great defense moron.

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you forgot none of the above

The Redskins defense gives up an avg of 283 yards per game, while giving up 165 yards through the air....

And why take the ball away from Turner? he was having a great game again...last week everyone complained that we stopped giving the ball to Turner and now that we did give it to him that want Ryan to pass more...

regardless his inconsistent play still merits concern does it not???

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- When Ryan signed, he became the fourth-highest paid player in the NFL

- Projected 2009 Stats: 3555 passing yards, 20 total TDs, 13 INTs

Current 2009 Stats: 1784 passing yards, 14 total TDs, 10 INTs

- DRAFT PROFILE:

Negatives: His deep passes sail on him too frequently. Is a gunslinger and tries to do too much, which leads to interceptions... must learn to work with what he is given. Lower body mechanics needs work... shoddy footwork at times. Needs to improve his decision making when flushed out of the pocket. May develop fumblitis.

Outlook: The type of football player who you know was born to be a quarterback. If Ryan can refine his footwork and improve his deep passes, he will be the complete package. Has absolutely everything you look for in an NFL signal caller in terms of mental approach and has good enough physical tools to get it done. Will likely win at least one super bowl before his career is over. Is at least as good a prospect as Philip Rivers was coming out in 2004.

Isn't he on track for those numbers? Geez.

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Ryan is tops among 'below average' QB draft class:

By Tom Pedulla, USA TODAY

NEWTON, Mass. — Potential franchise quarterback Matt Ryan is speaking with confidence about his collegiate achievements and new challenges awaiting him in the NFL when a blank look suddenly covers his face.

Asked how he expects the April 26-27 NFL draft to unfold for him and his fellow quarterbacks in this year's incoming crop, the former Boston College star shrugs and throws his hands into the air, a universal symbol for "haven't got a clue."

The draft is always unpredictable, particularly when it comes to the critical but highly inexact science of projecting quarterbacks. But this year's suspect class makes it more of a crapshoot than usual. Beyond Ryan, who will almost certainly be chosen anywhere from first to eighth, the forecast is much murkier.

Brian Brohm has a disturbing history of injuries and failed to excite when Louisville went 6-6 last season. Joe Flacco's big arm is scintillating, but he faces a difficult transition from the spread offense of the Delaware Blue Hens to a pro-style attack. Chad Henne has shown flashes of potential but was plagued by injuries as a senior and couldn't help Michigan fulfill lofty preseason expectations in 2007.

Southern California's John David Booty looks to be ordinary at best. Kentucky's André Woodson and injured Colt Brennan of Hawaii are left to wonder what happened to their shine after highly productive college careers. The certainty is that it is gone. Poor throwing mechanics will do that every time.

With a significant number of teams needing signal-callers to build around — the Miami Dolphins, Atlanta Falcons and Baltimore Ravens, among others — it appears as though the extremely limited supply from this draft cannot possibly meet demand.

"I don't think there are as many high-level kids as there are in some drafts," NFL Network analyst Mike Mayock says of the 2008 quarterback class. "But there are some kids you can point to as interesting prospects."

Monday Night Football analyst Ron Jaworski summarizes what looks to be a scattershot group in two words: "Below average."

He adds, "The only guy who stands out for me is Matt Ryan, where I would say he's a blue-chipper."

Even Ryan has some warts. By most accounts, his pro day was ordinary, lacking the "wow" element scouts hoped to see. While he completed 388 of 654 throws (59.3%) and amassed 4,507 yards and 31 touchdowns last season in leading Boston College to an 11-3 record that marked its winningest season since 1940, one statistic reared its ugly head: 19 interceptions.

It is a number that will surely create doubt for some NFL front offices. It undoubtedly does not sit well with Bill Parcells, who owns the top pick as the new head of football operations for the Dolphins.

Parcells abhors turnovers more than most do.

Nineteen picks?

As unsettling as they might be on the surface, there are explanations.

"They weren't 19 bad throws," Jaworski says. "Some were totally his fault. Some were good defensive plays. Some were tipped balls. Some were bad communication with receivers."

Is Mayock put off by the flurry of interceptions?

"Not even a little bit," he says, "and I've studied all 19 of them."

He places the blame largely on a less-than-stellar receiving corps.

"Did he force some throws? Absolutely," Mayock explains. "But the reason is he is trying to make a play. He doesn't have wideouts who can uncover from a decent corner."

Jeff Jagodzinski, who left as offensive coordinator of the Green Bay Packers to become Boston College's head coach in 2007, says he and his staff worked with Ryan on improving his anticipation of routes so that the ball is consistently delivered on time.

Jagodzinski expects the issue to become a non-issue wherever the quarterback lands in the pros. He chooses his words carefully in an attempt to avoid knocking his own players. His comment is telling, though, when he says, "He'll be surrounded by a different type of player."

Ryan's ultra-competitiveness comes through when he discusses having too many passes land in enemy hands.

"As a quarterback, you never want to turn it over. It's something I've definitely got to work on," he says. "At the same time, I don't want to lose my aggressiveness. You have to be willing to take some chances and throw the ball into tight windows.

"You have to know when to take the shot and when to choke back."

One thing is sure: Any mistakes Ryan made did not occur because he was rattled during critical situations. He was part of the most successful senior class in Boston College history. He will forever be remembered on that campus as "Matty Ice," a moniker he relishes.

"I feel I play better when there is a lot of pressure and everything is flying around you," he says. "For me, that is when it gets good and it's fun."

Matty Ice could not be more impressive as he talks football over a turkey burger at Johnny's Luncheonette, one of his favorite college haunts. He sounds like NFL MVP quarterbacks Peyton Manning and Tom Brady as he stresses the importance of what he does during the week leading to the opening kickoff.

"I need to do everything I can to prepare for what I'm going to see in the game," he says. "If I've done everything I can during the week, I can let it loose. I think I always prepare well."

Jagodzinski seconds that. "He is the first one there and the last one gone. He studies," he says. "He grasped our playbook as fast as any quarterback I've been around."

Jagodzinski was part of the staff at Boston College when Matt Hasselbeck was a senior there in 1997. Hasselbeck went on to take the Seattle Seahawks to the Super Bowl and has earned three Pro Bowl trips in the last five years.

When NFL teams inquire about Jagodzinski's current star, the coach replies with a question. "Would you take Matt Hasselbeck right now as your starting quarterback?"

When all agree that they would, Jagodzinski tells them, "It's the same kid, same guy, different last name. But Matt Ryan is a lot further along."

Ryan has a prototype build at 6-5, 228 pounds. Mayock raves about his physical tools and intangibles. He compares him to Manning in some aspects.

Manning started immediately for the Indianapolis Colts after being taken one spot ahead of ill-equipped Ryan Leaf with the first overall pick of the 1998 draft. The Colts went 3-13 that season under Manning, but he learned invaluable lessons under fire.

"Some kids get overwhelmed, and it snowballs," Mayock says. "I would tell you Matt Ryan could fit the Peyton Manning mold. He could take a beating and get better each week."

Mayock also compares the two in another critical aspect. "If you are going to pay a kid that amount of money (as a franchise QB), after God and family, football better be No. 3. With Peyton and this kid, it is."

Brohm, Flacco are next

While Ryan stands above the crowd, Jaworski rates it a "tossup" between Brohm and Flacco for next in line. Although Brohm is more ready for prime time, Flacco's superior arm strength appears to give him a far greater upside. It might all depend on how clubs value those assets.

For Brohm's part, the evaluation period has been especially stressful.

"It's kind of a long process," he says. "I can't wait for it to get over and know where I'm going to go."

He has endured greater medical scrutiny than most because of a significant history of injuries. He tore the anterior cruciate ligament in his right knee as a sophomore. His junior year brought torn ligaments in his thumb, then surgery to repair the labrum in his left (non-throwing) shoulder.

The 6-3, 230-pound Brohm accepts the poking and prodding and X-rays as part of doing business.

"I think they are always going to look at that," he says, "because they don't want to draft a guy who is injured or is going to be easily injured."

His senior season brought a mixed blessing. On the positive side, he stayed healthy through 12 games despite playing behind a leaky offensive line. "He took more of a beating than he had in any of his years at Louisville," Cardinals coach Steve Kragthorpe says. "I thought he showed he was very durable."

On the negative side, Brohm took a huge hit for being the leader of a .500 team expected to fare considerably better than it did. He accepts that the nature of the position involves either too much credit or blame. Still, he points to extenuating circumstances.

"We were going through a coaching change (Kragthorpe replaced Bobby Petrino in 2007), and we lost some guys from a great defense that we weren't able to replace," he says. "A lot went on that, as a quarterback, you can't do much about."

Brohm threw for 4,024 yards as a senior with 30 touchdowns and 12 interceptions. He closed his career with 71 TD strikes and 24 interceptions, just five more than Ryan suffered in his final season.

"I feel I'm the best quarterback (in the draft)," Brohm says. "If you look on a year-to-year basis, consistency-wise, who makes good decisions on the field, I feel I've just done it consistently."

Mayock, though, would not be surprised if Brohm drops to the middle of the second round.

"He does everything pretty well, nothing great," the analyst says. "I think he can manage an offense and be a starter in the NFL, but I don't see him as a franchise quarterback."

There are teams who view Flacco in that radiant light — if they're willing to wait a while.

"Some people think Flacco could be the best of all of them in five years," Mayock says.

No quarterback used the pre-draft process to advance his stock more than Flacco. He has the size (6-7, 236 pounds) and laser arm strength to make it and make it big. He lit up the ESPN All-Star Challenge with a long-distance throw of 74 yards.

Delaware coach K.C. Keeler describes a pregame drill in which Flacco starts throwing 10 yards away from his receiver and retreats 10 yards at a time after that. He does not stop until he heaves the ball 80 yards in the air.

"The guys who have come through have been wowed by the tape and his physical abilities. He's a phenomenal athlete," Keeler says. "The kid is a special talent with a special arm. … The arm strength is ridiculous."

Keeler feels just as sure that Flacco possesses the ever-popular intangibles. "He's one of those guys who wants the ball on fourth down. He wants to make a play," the coach says, adding, "Nothing rattles him. Nothing bothers him. To me, he has the perfect mentality to be an NFL quarterback."

Some evaluators, though, might be concerned that Flacco was forced to sit out a year in 2005 after failing to wrest the position away from Tyler Palko at Pittsburgh and decided to drop down to the Football Championship Subdivision (formerly Division I-AA) to play for Delaware.

"I definitely wanted to go out there and prove I could play football," Flacco says of the unusual move. "I had to drop down a level, which was tough for me at first, but I tried to put the Pittsburgh thing behind me."

He made the most of his situation by hitting 331 of 521 passes (63.5%) last season for 4,263 yards with 23 touchdowns and five interceptions. At the same time, the leap to the NFL will be greater for him than most, and the win-now desperation that pervades the pro level makes it extremely difficult for embattled coaches and general managers to stay patient.

Keeler has a ready rejoinder for those who doubt Flacco because of his small-school roots. "We have a slogan around here that, 'Bigger is not better. Better is better,' " he says.

Flacco surely helped himself with his willingness to throw at the combine. Ryan elected not to do that, citing lack of familiarity with receivers.

"You're a quarterback. You're supposed to throw," Flacco says. "I don't have anything to hide. Why not let everyone see how well I do throw the football?"

Noteworthy examples exist throughout the NFL of quarterbacks who left behind small-college backgrounds to exceed all expectations while playing big with the big boys. Tony Romo (Eastern Illinois), Kurt Warner (Northern Iowa) and Jeff Garcia (San Jose State) all come to mind.

"I don't think it will hurt me at all," Flacco says of his atypical path to the pros. "You still have to throw to the open guy."

Henne's stock also is rising dramatically since the end of a senior season diminished by injuries. A sprained right knee was followed by a separated right shoulder, keeping him to 1,938 passing yards with 17 touchdowns and nine interceptions.

The 6-3, 230-pounder began his resurgence with an excellent Senior Bowl week that culminated in his selection as offensive MVP for the North after he completed five of nine passes for 64 yards and a touchdown.

It was the kind of performance that reminded everyone of his larger body of work at Michigan. He leaves with school records for passing yards (9,715), touchdowns (87), completions (828) and attempts (1,387).

Henne could not be more pleased with the way the pre-draft period has unfolded and says he made it clear that his shoulder problem is a non-issue.

"We are coming to the end," he says. "I did all that I can to show I'm the same player."

Mayock was impressed enough by Henne's pro day to think he might jump into the first round. "He has a big arm, a really big arm," he says. "If you compare his pro day to Brady Quinn's last year, it's not even close."

The 6-3, 218-pound Booty should emerge as the best of the rest if he is allowed to operate in a West Coast offense in the NFL.

"He kind of grows on you. You watch him play and he throws to the right guy almost all the time," Jaworski says. "He doesn't have a big gun, but at the end of the day, you say the guy is a good football player. He understands his strengths and plays to his strengths."

At the end of the day, though, discussion of this class must begin and end with Ryan. He has the best chance to be remembered among a group that might quickly be forgotten. He has the best opportunity to develop into what all needy teams are desperately seeking, a franchise quarterback.

"I have not had one coach call me and say, 'I don't know about that guy,' " Jagodzinski says. "Not one."

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Not really, its his 2nd year for one and also his last 2 games were against teams that have pretty good secondaries, yea NO is 17th but they also lead the league in INTS. Off the top of my head i know that the INT in the 49ers game was the ref getting tangled with White, an INT in the CHI game was because a ball bounced off of Jenks hands, an INT in the Dallas game was because of a horrible non PI call by the refs, his 3 INTs against NO were because of a non PI call, a tip ball, and a last second Hail Mary pass.

Also, Dal has a great pass rush (which has exposed the o-line, and again NO has a great ball hawking secondary, and WAS is #2 in the league in pass defense)

So no im not worried at all about the Franchise QB

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I'm 1000 percent optimistic that every facet of our team will be better than before the year before but for right now: WHAT THE HECK IS UP WITH MATT AND THE PASSING GAME??? 135 YARDS IN THE AIR TOTAL?! Seriously?! Why can't this offense seem to get everything online??? Who's Responsible For This???

I would say that 30 other Defensive Coordinators with a full year of game film and a schedule that is probably the 3rd or 4th toughest in the league would have something to do with it.

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Mularkey is not garbage, but I don't understand his slimming the playbook down to the thickness of a People magazine this year. That implied a lack of confidence in his players to learn more than what he handed them. I really didn't like hearing that. Not that he needed to overcomplicate things - it's just that I've never even played football on a team, and even as a spectator, it seems like some of his situational playcalling is predictable.

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Man you late everyone knows Ryan is horrible if Turner cant get going. Believe it or now our whole offense depends on how well turner does.

:lol::lol::lol:

So what, the first 3 wins of the season mean garbage? and last weeks loss was what? Ryan played ok...seeing as how 2 of his "Picks" shouldnt have been, and Turner played awsome...there goes your theory

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Let's see, he completed 71% of his passes and had 1 really bad decision. If that's the definition of suck, I'll take it every week.

Otherwise, the o-line has been the problem in Atlanta for years and we've done a good job of masking problem areas and doing what we can with what we have. We've got some very nice building blocks in Baker and Blalock (maybe) but the entire right side needs a facelift...

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didn't vote because I don't think Ryan Sucks. we don't know why half the interceptions that he throws happen. Did he make a bad throw or did the receiver run the route wrong.....who knows.

He's so far played against two teams after their byes, played against and loss to three winning teams in the Cowboys ( after their bye and in Dallas), The Pats ( in their home ) and the Saints ( in their home and I really believe that the pick 6 against him was due to the pass interference call that wasn't called)

Plus he's not going to be and shouldn't be asked to throw 40 times a game average. We're a run first team. His job is to hand the ball off and throw if needed. ( Also the Skins were 2nd in the league in Passing D, that tells me that you run as much as you can.)

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I'm 1000 percent optimistic that every facet of our team will be better than before the year before but for right now: WHAT THE HECK IS UP WITH MATT AND THE PASSING GAME??? 135 YARDS IN THE AIR TOTAL?! Seriously?! Why can't this offense seem to get everything online??? Who's Responsible For This???

You do realize that he only had 24 pass attempts. Most of the time you have to throw the ball more to get over the 200 mark. We ran the ball almost as much as we threw. I think we had 23 rushes. He played well except the int.

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