Ice1974 Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 28 for 105.... 1 TD Carolina22 for 97..... 3 TD SF20 for 151.....1 TD NOmaybe the reports of his downfall were premature,looks like 3-4 defense is his kryptonitepretty goods numbers if you ask me, and I dont think we have another 3-4 defense on the schedule Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nativefalcon Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 28 for 105.... 1 TD Carolina22 for 97..... 3 TD SF20 for 151.....1 TD NOmaybe the reports of his downfall were premature,looks like 3-4 defense is his kryptonitepretty goods numbers if you ask me, and I dont think we have another 3-4 defense on the scheduleWe do the Jets Jets Jets. but good thing Kris Jenkins is out, its not the same defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtlantaFalconPokerPro Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 I can't remember where I read the article, but they pretty much proved that he's at his best against 4-3 defenses.Good thing we have a lot of 4-3's coming up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runesaq Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 28 for 105.... 1 TD Carolina22 for 97..... 3 TD SF20 for 151.....1 TD NOmaybe the reports of his downfall were premature,looks like 3-4 defense is his kryptonitepretty goods numbers if you ask me, and I dont think we have another 3-4 defense on the scheduleI noticed that too. He is stellar against 4-3 but I couldnt have put it any better. Against 3-4 he was just not good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norbendon Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 28 for 105.... 1 TD Carolina22 for 97..... 3 TD SF20 for 151.....1 TD NOmaybe the reports of his downfall were premature,looks like 3-4 defense is his kryptonitepretty goods numbers if you ask me, and I dont think we have another 3-4 defense on the scheduleIt's been said before, but I think it has to do with a lack of lateral quickness fron Dahl and Clabo. They are maulers and excellent straight ahead blockers, which you do more of against a 4-3 scheme. 3-4 defenses typically have more speed off the edge from the outside linebackers and require a bit more lateral quickness (some say athleticism) to adjust and get into position to make proper blocks. Can some of this be coached up? I don't know. We won't see very many more 3-4 defenses the rest of the year so we can breathe a sigh of relief there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PuntPuntPass Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 28 for 105.... 1 TD Carolina22 for 97..... 3 TD SF20 for 151.....1 TD NOmaybe the reports of his downfall were premature,looks like 3-4 defense is his kryptonitepretty goods numbers if you ask me, and I dont think we have another 3-4 defense on the scheduleSame can almost be said about Ryan. I know he hasn't been tearing it up all season but his numbers are also slightly better against the 4-3's also. He sustains drives better. Whether he gets the passing td is another debate altogether Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norbendon Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 Same can almost be said about Ryan. I know he hasn't been tearing it up all season but his numbers are also slightly better against the 4-3's also. He sustains drives better. Whether he gets the passing td is another debate altogetherI really think it has to do with the right side of our line. As much as I love the way they play, I'm not convinced that they have the quickness to handle the speed that's thrown at them against a 3-4 alignment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slamee101 Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 Or maybe we can say our Oline is at their best against the 4-3 defenses? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norbendon Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 Or maybe we can say our Oline is at their best against the 4-3 defenses?I'll go with that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PuntPuntPass Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 I really think it has to do with the right side of our line. As much as I love the way they play, I'm not convinced that they have the quickness to handle the speed that's thrown at them against a 3-4 alignment.You make a good point there. Maybe they overachieved last year. Asides from cbs and I think top priority needs to be placed on O-line, wlb, and another harry douglas or someone as explosive as him and norwood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nativefalcon Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 I am too glad we're going against some 4-3 defenses get Turners confidence back up. Not saying it went down, he kicked it in high gear last night. That was the Turner we know and love. :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pearljamnash13 Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 A lot of it was turner bulling over people lastnight, as well. I would've hated trying to tackle him lastnight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcons Ace Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 I could have swore that the 49ers ran a 3-4 with Willis and Spikes in the middle? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
root down Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 28 for 105.... 1 TD Carolina22 for 97..... 3 TD SF20 for 151.....1 TD NOmaybe the reports of his downfall were premature,looks like 3-4 defense is his kryptonitepretty goods numbers if you ask me, and I dont think we have another 3-4 defense on the scheduleWant to know why 3-4 D's give him trouble?? B/c they are harder to pick up the blitzes (run too), NOT IMPOSSIBLE, just easier to disguise. What does that have to do with Turner. Nothing directly. Just the continued problems on the O-line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falcons4life Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 Ok, so Turner and the OL are weak against the 3-4 and we only have one more of those to face in the REGULAR season...thats fine.What I want to hear is that Mularkey and co are actively working to solve this problem so that WHEN we get to the playoffs, we dont automatically lose just because the team we face is a 3-4 team.Something has to be re-designed.We cant just throw up our hands and be resigned to having no running game when we face a 3-4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-and-Black Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 Or maybe we can say our Oline is at their best against the 4-3 defenses?This is the more accurate conclusion. We are having difficulty blocking after the initial point of contact and into the second level. Our OLine just isnt executing blocks against LB/S/CB like they were last year. The key to keeping our running game at a high level is executing blocks.As much as it hurts some peoples feelings, after a certain level, running back play takes a back seat. There are exceptions for very gifted RBs but they are few and far between. Offensive line play ultimately determines how dominant a rushing attack can be.Its definitely refreshing to see our running game return to form, even if it is just against certain schemes. However, I am more interested in our OLine problems being worked out so that we can effectively rush against more dynamic, LB oriented teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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