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If you're looking to complain about our coaches or players then this isn't the thread for you. How should we attack the Saints Offense and Defense? That's the question, ideas wanted.

On defense: 3 man line, 7 men in coverage, 1 blitzer coming off the edge

What this serves to do is prevent the big play(coverage) and hopefully allow us to stop those passes where Brees has just been throwning it up hoping his reciever can outplay his man and get the ball. This is the type of passing game Cullpepper/Moss, Brady/Moss, and now Brees/Colston&Moore are playing. It is obviously incredibly effective and requires extra men in coverage to stop. Blitzing doesn't work against it for 3 reasons:

1- Saints Oline isn't allowing the blitz to get home.

2- Brees is smart and can get the ball to his "hot" read (especially Reggie Bush, who seems like all of his big plays are in this exact situation)

3- When the QB can just throw it up there for his WR he doesn't need a lot of time

The hope here is that the 1 blitzer coming off the edge will force the RB/TE to block and will also keep Brees from having infinite time in the pocket. Not so much about sacking him, or even hurrying him, just serving to push him to one side of the field or the other and get his internal clock ticking. This will also encourage Payton to run the ball. I'll take them running into our pass coverage. That would at least put them in more 3rd down situations. (Also basic math: 7 men in coverage VS a maximum of 5 recievers running routes- less if the rb or TE is staying in to block)

Remember, a good pass rush can help the secondary, but good coverage can help the pass rush. IMO focusing on coverage is the best way to get the pass rush going and account for our poor cbs.

On offense: WR Screen, RB screen, power run game

The Saints are a blitzing defense. They thrive on turnovers and their Safety Sharper has gotten to roam the secondary picking off ducks thrown by QBs under durress. How do you slow down the blitz? Screens and Running the football. I'll include hot reads to Gonzo under the screen category, but generally I expect them to account for that in coverage. Ryan is good at taking a 3 step drop and delivering the football. Turner is still powerfull even if he has slowed. If we go into this game with a physical and violent attitude, looking for 4 yards and a cloud of dust, we can be successful. This strategy will also help keep their offense off the field, their crowd out of it, and their defense tired by the fourth quarter. That tired defense will also lead to Payton calling more runs to give them some rest.

This is a tough game in a tough environment. We are 10 point dogs. If we find a successful strategy it could not only lead to a win and being right in the race for the division, but also provide a blueprint for other teams. Don't misinterpret this post as implying there is an easy way to beat the Saints. I'm just interested in hearing what others think the best strategies are for us.

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Spread formation with No Huddle............this might open some run lanes!!!

If possible, line up 18 guys on Defense with 3 extremely deep. :lol:

Who knows, I just hope our offense gets the running game going so our D can be rested. We should take the plan from NE and eat up as much of the 3rd / 4th qtr as possible yet still put points on the board (3 or 7). Whatever we did against SF, bring it back and use those plays as our first 15 scripted and throughout the 1st half....

Its going to be tough game, lets just focus on not getting down too early!

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If you're looking to complain about our coaches or players then this isn't the thread for you. How should we attack the Saints Offense and Defense? That's the question, ideas wanted.

On defense: 3 man line, 7 men in coverage, 1 blitzer coming off the edge

What this serves to do is prevent the big play(coverage) and hopefully allow us to stop those passes where Brees has just been throwning it up hoping his reciever can outplay his man and get the ball. This is the type of passing game Cullpepper/Moss, Brady/Moss, and now Brees/Colston&Moore are playing. It is obviously incredibly effective and requires extra men in coverage to stop. Blitzing doesn't work against it for 3 reasons:

1- Saints Oline isn't allowing the blitz to get home.

2- Brees is smart and can get the ball to his "hot" read (especially Reggie Bush, who seems like all of his big plays are in this exact situation)

3- When the QB can just throw it up there for his WR he doesn't need a lot of time

The hope here is that the 1 blitzer coming off the edge will force the RB/TE to block and will also keep Brees from having infinite time in the pocket. Not so much about sacking him, or even hurrying him, just serving to push him to one side of the field or the other and get his internal clock ticking. This will also encourage Payton to run the ball. I'll take them running into our pass coverage. That would at least put them in more 3rd down situations. (Also basic math: 7 men in coverage VS a maximum of 5 recievers running routes- less if the rb or TE is staying in to block)

Remember, a good pass rush can help the secondary, but good coverage can help the pass rush. IMO focusing on coverage is the best way to get the pass rush going and account for our poor cbs.

On offense: WR Screen, RB screen, power run game

The Saints are a blitzing defense. They thrive on turnovers and their Safety Sharper has gotten to roam the secondary picking off ducks thrown by QBs under durress. How do you slow down the blitz? Screens and Running the football. I'll include hot reads to Gonzo under the screen category, but generally I expect them to account for that in coverage. Ryan is good at taking a 3 step drop and delivering the football. Turner is still powerfull even if he has slowed. If we go into this game with a physical and violent attitude, looking for 4 yards and a cloud of dust, we can be successful. This strategy will also help keep their offense off the field, their crowd out of it, and their defense tired by the fourth quarter. That tired defense will also lead to Payton calling more runs to give them some rest.

This is a tough game in a tough environment. We are 10 point dogs. If we find a successful strategy it could not only lead to a win and being right in the race for the division, but also provide a blueprint for other teams. Don't misinterpret this post as implying there is an easy way to beat the Saints. I'm just interested in hearing what others think the best strategies are for us.

NO has a very good running game. The defense you propose would be disastrous. The key is the Falcons front 4. They have to be able to stop the run and get to Brees without alot of blitzing. Brees is one of the best against the Blitz. The db's are going to have to hold their coverage as long as possible. This is a tough week to be this defense.

On offense, the key is to convert 3rd downs, run the ball well, and get Td's in the red zone instead of fg's.Keep NO offense off the field.

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NO has a very good running game. The defense you propose would be disastrous. The key is the Falcons front 4. They have to be able to stop the run and get to Brees without alot of blitzing. Brees is one of the best against the Blitz. The db's are going to have to hold their coverage as long as possible. This is a tough week to be this defense.

On offense, the key is to convert 3rd downs, run the ball well, and get Td's in the red zone instead of fg's.Keep NO offense off the field.

The Giants front four couldn't get to Brees without blitzing and they are better than our front 4. Our dbs are our weakness and can not be counted on to hold their coverage. That is why we need a different strategy than what you're saying.

Extra men in coverage helps the CBs and provides a better shot at a coverage sack. The blitzer coming off the edge provides a better shot at disrupting the passing game than a 4 man line does. The sacrafice is in stopping their run game and like I said earlier, its better for us if they are running into our pass defense than throwing on our dbs.

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