Karst41 Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 Lemme Quote Bill Walsh.Everything you need to know about a player will be revealed in his first 28 games.Romo has played 66 to date. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firstiary Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 Lemme Quote Bill Walsh.Everything you need to know about a player will be revealed in his first 28 games.Romo has played 66 to date.Well what do we take from that then? Romo had a much better QB Rating through his first 28 games than Peyton Manning did, and neither had a ring. In fact, it took Peyton six seasons before he put up a QB rating that surpassed what Romo did in his first two years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papashango Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 Again, this is my opinion. I think Brees is a far superior QB. If it came down to winning one game, who do you think would get the most votes from players, coaches and fans alike to be the man in that game. Hands down, its Brees.I agree with you. But you said Romo isn't a star because he hasn't done anything in the post season and neither has Brees. He gets all the attention because he is a hybrid white/black QB. Just ask Michael Irvin about how Romo's great-great-great-great-great-grandmother pulled one of them studs out from the barn back in the day.Romo is mexican.....LOL...OK That is the definition of choking. If you have to have an excuse for the reason someone did bad, that is choking.WEll if you want to judge him as a place holder than fine. He's a choker. But he hasn't choked in the playoffs as quarterback. He actually has put this team on his back and made comebacks in the postseason. Just didn't finish it off due to a fumbling that field goal kick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JKH5785 Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 I think that the media makes him out to be so much because he is the QB of "americas team" It's the cowboys. cowboys = spotlight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncja Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 You don't remember? I was joking about this.Of course Irvin wasn't suspended or anything.....ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh I had forgot all about that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zigg zagg Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 im not reading through this entire thread but did someone post tony romos stats WHEN IT COUNTS? his overall stats are good but take into consideration the team hes playing with. witten, owens/williams, barber, jones, the entire oline etc... nobody has been blessed with talent surrounding him like that since troy aikman. hes supposed to have good stats with that kind of squad. his defense has been much better than brees has ever had to work with. brees would have a ring by now if he played on dallas' squad.brees plays great when it counts. his defense let him down in the past. when i see the cowboys lose the games that matter romo plays a big part in that. romo couldnt hold brees' jockstrap. new orleans' defense has been atrocious in years past. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firstiary Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 romo couldnt hold brees' jockstrap. Is this the lamest and most overused insult in sports? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
friendlycowboysfan Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 I love the following quote from HOF'er Tony Dorsett. He is right - Romo has done nothing to deserve the superstar status that the media has placed on him.Dorsett:"Well, for one thing, I don't know why on God's earth Tony Romo has been anointed a superstar in the National Football League. Tony is very young in his career. Not to say you can't be young in your career and be a superstar because you've got one up there in Minnesota in Adrian Peterson. "But the thing is this: You have a guy who hasn't done much and quarterbacks in the National Football League, most of them go through this growing curve. [Romo] hasn't gone through that growing curve, but he was anointed this great player all of a sudden. Now he's having to live up to that. And obviously Tony has some deficiencies. I mean, he's a young quarterback, that's going to happen. He's not going to be on top of his game every game week in and week out, because this game is a very fast moving game and he makes some decisions sometimes -- he's like a gambler man, he takes chances and sometimes those things, he gets bit in the butt by that. "But, he's a good player who's still learning how to play in the National Football League and I think the media has given him too much credit for doing nothing. He hasn't done anything really in the National Football League to deserve all the recognition and visibility that he's gotten so far."Romo's not considered a star QB in a lot of Cowboys' fans eyes. He will have to win playoff games and a Super Bowl before i included him in the rarified air with Brady, Peyton Manning, and Big Ben. He's a notch below the elite QBs. Same level as Rivers, Palmer, McNabb, Brees Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peyton Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 Lemme Quote Bill Walsh.Everything you need to know about a player will be revealed in his first 28 games.Romo has played 66 to date.LOL, that is funny, you are counting like 20 games where all he did was hold for FGs.Romo has played QB in 45 games, and in those games he has accomplished more than 99% of players who have have played in this league. Statistically, he might have had the best first 45 games of anybody but Marino. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peyton Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 im not reading through this entire thread but did someone post tony romos stats WHEN IT COUNTS? his overall stats are good but take into consideration the team hes playing with. witten, owens/williams, barber, jones, the entire oline etc... nobody has been blessed with talent surrounding him like that since troy aikman. hes supposed to have good stats with that kind of squad. his defense has been much better than brees has ever had to work with. brees would have a ring by now if he played on dallas' squad.brees plays great when it counts. his defense let him down in the past. when i see the cowboys lose the games that matter romo plays a big part in that. romo couldnt hold brees' jockstrap. new orleans' defense has been atrocious in years past.Brees put up 14 points in his most recent playoff loss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_winger Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 Why are they called America's Team?Who knows? Somebody said it and it stuck.He is too inconsistent for me. He'd be a 2nd or 3rd stringer at best on my team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norbendon Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 Because of the star on his helmet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firstiary Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 He is too inconsistent for me. He'd be a 2nd or 3rd stringer at best on my team.At best? You mean you're not sure if he can be your 3rd string QB? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_winger Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 At best? You mean you're not sure if he can be your 3rd string QB?Yes, that's right. I think he sucks. No way I'd put him out there as a starter. I'd be nervous having him as a backup, and probably would have cut him the second or third time he blew a game because of playoff pressure.If you don't get it yet, you should try to evaluate his career objectively and that may help you understand this is not a 'money' QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firstiary Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 (edited) Yes, that's right. I think he sucks. No way I'd put him out there as a starter. I'd be nervous having him as a backup, and probably would have cut him the second or third time he blew a game because of playoff pressure.If you don't get it yet, you should try to evaluate his career objectively and that may help you understand this is not a 'money' QB.If you want to say he's not the guy you want to hang your franchise's hopes on, then that's reasonable. I'm not saying I agree or disagree with that (you could definitely do worse than Romo, though).But as a guy to fill in as your backup or even as your third string QB? No offense intended, but it looks ignorant to say he's not good enough to do that. There's not a coach or GM in the NFL that wouldn't love to have him as their backup QB, and an awful lot of them would be thrilled to have him as their QB. Edited October 21, 2009 by Firstiary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nativefalcon Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 I don't get it either, I remember the game in Buffalo I can't believe that Dallas still won, but he still intercepted 5 times. Now I love Matty Ices name specifically because its TRUE, I have never seen someone that you watch their eyes and hes like ice, a 300LB lineman can be ready to smack him and he stands tall in the pocket and makes the throw knowing hes going to get hit. Like on the other hand you watch romo and he looks like a Deer in the head lights, you can see the fear in him when hes about to get sacked. To tell you the truth I think the Cowboys will be looking for QB in next years draft because of it. He gets scared easy and CHOKES in the big games, that not really opinion its fact. One fact once its gets past November tony romos winning percentage goes way down and thats been every year since hes started. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyBirdNorth Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 Tony Romo and Reggie Bush are the two most OVERRATED players in the NFL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigmildog Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 It's because he plays for the team with the Star on it's helmet.(The most overrated organization in sports over the last 10 years). This team does well for a few years and then others ride off of what has happened in the past. If you don't believe me Google Danny White. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm_falcons Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 (edited) So far this season....Romo's qb rating is 86.5....that is 17th best.He has had the 7th fewest sacks against him in the league so he is getting time to throw the ball. The OL is a good one and you can't blame them. Dallas' 3rd down efficiency is not that good at 37 percent...thats 17th best. td to int ratio of 6 to 4 leaves a lot to be desired. Ryans is 9 to 4. And lets see the defenses they have faced. KC....TB....Car...NyG(just gave up 48 to the Saints) and Denver(they only scored 10 pts in that game).Yes....I think the guy is overrated and he is a QB that cannot get the job done in the high pressure situations. The stats dont lie. Edited October 21, 2009 by jm_falcons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papashango Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 So far this season....Romo's qb rating is 86.5....that is 17th best.He has had the 7th fewest sacks against him in the league so he is getting time to throw the ball. The OL is a good one and you can't blame them. Dallas' 3rd down efficiency is not that good at 37 percent...thats 17th best. td to int ratio of 6 to 4 leaves a lot to be desired. Ryans is 9 to 4. And lets see the defenses they have faced. KC....TB....Car...NyG(just gave up 48 to the Saints) and Denver(they only scored 10 pts in that game).Yes....I think the guy is overrated and he is a QB that cannot get the job done in the high pressure situations. The stats dont lie.Let's see who they've faced? Giants are #1 in the league in passing defense, The Bucc's are 11th, Carolina is 2nd and Denver is 7th. Are those bad defenses to you? Stats don't lie remember lol. That might have to do with why Romo's qb rating is only 86.5 which btw isn't a bad qb rating just very pedestrian for Romo. Is this the lamest and most overused insult in sports?By far. im not reading through this entire thread but did someone post tony romos stats WHEN IT COUNTS? his overall stats are good but take into consideration the team hes playing with. witten, owens/williams, barber, jones, the entire oline etc... nobody has been blessed with talent surrounding him like that since troy aikman. hes supposed to have good stats with that kind of squad. his defense has been much better than brees has ever had to work with. brees would have a ring by now if he played on dallas' squad.brees plays great when it counts. his defense let him down in the past. when i see the cowboys lose the games that matter romo plays a big part in that. romo couldnt hold brees' jockstrap. new orleans' defense has been atrocious in years past.Brees plays great when it counts? How many playoffs wins does the Great Drew Brees have? **** how many times has he even been in the playoffs? And he played for some pretty solid Chargers and SAints teams and while with the Chargers he happened to play alongside the best running back in the league. And its funny that Sean Payton is reponsible for both Romo and Brees. Neither has the success in the post season as of YET. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of God Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 I love the following quote from HOF'er Tony Dorsett. He is right - Romo has done nothing to deserve the superstar status that the media has placed on him.Dorsett:"Well, for one thing, I don't know why on God's earth Tony Romo has been anointed a superstar in the National Football League. Tony is very young in his career. Not to say you can't be young in your career and be a superstar because you've got one up there in Minnesota in Adrian Peterson. "But the thing is this: You have a guy who hasn't done much and quarterbacks in the National Football League, most of them go through this growing curve. [Romo] hasn't gone through that growing curve, but he was anointed this great player all of a sudden. Now he's having to live up to that. And obviously Tony has some deficiencies. I mean, he's a young quarterback, that's going to happen. He's not going to be on top of his game every game week in and week out, because this game is a very fast moving game and he makes some decisions sometimes -- he's like a gambler man, he takes chances and sometimes those things, he gets bit in the butt by that. "But, he's a good player who's still learning how to play in the National Football League and I think the media has given him too much credit for doing nothing. He hasn't done anything really in the National Football League to deserve all the recognition and visibility that he's gotten so far."Rev, I have my ideas but they are not very nice. He's another Delhomo IMHO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peyton Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 I am going to try and bring some sanity to this thread, because I am seeing some really smart people say some really silly things.If Tony Romo put up his numbers as an Atlanta Falcon, he would be the franchise record holder in:Career passer ratingPassing yards in a season300 yard games (18)300 yard games in a singe season (7)Career competion percentageCareer passer ratingPassing TDs in a seasonMost TD passes in a game - tiedMost wins as QB in a season - tiedCareer Best win percentage as QBCareer most yards per attemptCareer passing TD percentageSo if he were a Falcons player, and he had done all of this in less than 3 seasons, would we be calling him overrated or overhyped?I doubt it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev_Hal Posted October 21, 2009 Author Share Posted October 21, 2009 Romo's not considered a star QB in a lot of Cowboys' fans eyes. He will have to win playoff games and a Super Bowl before i included him in the rarified air with Brady, Peyton Manning, and Big Ben. He's a notch below the elite QBs. Same level as Rivers, Palmer, McNabb, BreesHonestly, I all all 4 of those guys over Romo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peyton Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 Rev, I have my ideas but they are not very nice. He's another Delhomo IMHO.When your mocking someone's name like that, do you ever ask yourself if that is the christian thing to do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herr Doktor Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 LIke I said about 35 posts back, grading a QB is subjective. We all have our bias's and opinions on them. I think Romo is a good QB, not elite. I put him top ten. My definition of the ELITE is top three or 4 QB's. I also think elite QB's could win with any line up. They are just naturals. I think Romo is a good QB, good arm, nice touch. I think the mental part of the game, late in the year, wears on him. Once he beats that, I think the young man could be just about as good as any QB out there. Its all in the eyes of the beholder. I hate the man cause he plays for the Cowboys, in my opinion the most over hyped team in sports. But its all in fun. I don't wish him harm, I just wish him many picks against us. Thats all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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