falcons4life Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 Mark Bradley's article from Monday was a pretty accurate description of what went down on Sunday. AJCYet it wasnt what was in the article itself that caught my eye. Bradley is one of few writers that will actually have a dialogue with the people who leave comments on his articles and when people started talking about the lack of a run offense he posted this nugget.Mark BradleySeptember 27th, 20096:14 pmIt’s thought by some that Turner is carrying a few extra pounds. That hasn’t been proved, but I’ve heard it mentioned.Is this something that anyone else has heard? I've not seen a single mention anywhere else about this. The guy looks pretty much the same as last season but his numbers certainly are down. Dont know if the lack of a solid run game is a weight issue or an OL issue but we certainly arent as potent as last season. With so many members here scouring the web for info I tend to look at Bradleys comment with a grain of salt unless it can be corroborated elsewhere. Anyone read anything like this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sourdiesal Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 If that's the case the strength and conditioning coach should be fired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gritz Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 Visually he appears about the same size to me but he definitely looks like he's moving considerably slower............ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris30277 Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 I honestly think its a mental thing with Turner. Its like he has been talking to W. Dunn about going down on first contact to prolong his career :/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crankdatfalcon Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 TJ Duckett part 2???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falcons4life Posted September 29, 2009 Author Share Posted September 29, 2009 Like I mentioned I dont know if this is a real issue or not. Was more interested in someone else being able to backup Bradleys comments.Although the W. Dunn comment made me chuckle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ConnFalcon Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 TJ Duckett part 2????Don't even joke like that!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LADBABY Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 I think he was listed at 250 lbs. at one point. He looksthe same to me. I think all he needs to do is break a nicerun to get his confidence jacked back up to the unstoppablelevel. He conquered most of his worlds last year. Now it istime to do it again and he needs to show up for the party. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Money Lee Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 Well, he ran fine in the preseason. The DL are getting too much penetration. As a RB, you rely on people getting you to the hole and then you getting through. That's not happening.Maybe the OL overachieved last year???I'm still of the opinion Baker and Blaylock are studs as evidenced by the Falcons success running to the left. I'm also a fan of Clabo and his versatility. McClure and Dahl are candidates for potential ugrades/replacement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karst41 Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 Freaking AJCWe had this discussion when TC Opened.My take is that Turner had over 370 carries last season and the guy came into TC over 260 lbsor something like that.My stance then and now is, after that many carries Turner should have lost several pounds so he could be lighter on his feet.Last year Turner at 245 had fresh legs.After 370+ Carries and a whole bunch of extra weight Turner is too slow to hit the holes.Can the S+C Coaches be held to blame?Yes and No.There was no way for them to know what would work for Turner and what would not.They should have consulted TATF first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Statick Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 His weight isn't the issue. It's the run blocking by the o-line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconMama Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 Freaking AJCWe had this discussion when TC Opened.My take is that Turner had over 370 carries last season and the guy came into TC over 260 lbsor something like that.My stance then and now is, after that many carries Turner should have lost several pounds so he could be lighter on his feet.Last year Turner at 245 had fresh legs.After 370+ Carries and a whole bunch of extra weight Turner is too slow to hit the holes.Can the S+C Coaches be held to blame?Yes and No.There was no way for them to know what would work for Turner and what would not.They should have consulted TATF first.The curse of 370 *plays dramatic music* :ph34r: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insight Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 Well, he ran fine in the preseason. The DL are getting too much penetration. As a RB, you rely on people getting you to the hole and then you getting through. That's not happening.Maybe the OL overachieved last year???I'm still of the opinion Baker and Blaylock are studs as evidenced by the Falcons success running to the left. I'm also a fan of Clabo and his versatility. McClure and Dahl are candidates for potential ugrades/replacement.I think the OL overachieved last year. Our strength of schedule was weak compared to this season plus team did not have much tape on our blocking schemes. This year the OL and DL seem to be losing the war at the line of scrimmage. Turner is trying to be patience and let wholes open up and the blocks are just not being held long enough to do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karst41 Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 The curse of 370 *plays dramatic music* :ph34r:Shame on me for using sensationalism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoungHeezy Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 We've played better defenses. It really is that simple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Rider Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 That is a ridiculous article if he actually watched the games which I'm sure he did. The problem is our o-line not opening up holes for him. He is the type of back that has to get going to be effective. He is not an AP type that can make something out of nothin on a consistent basis. He has to get his load started and get to the second level. Right now he is not getting to the second level. He looked fine in preseason and just as quick as last year. Right now it is our blocking that is the problem. Maybe play calling a little bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gritz Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 I wonder if part of too is that 2 out of the 3 teams we have played so far this year run the 3-4 D and schematically our O-line just doesn't perform as well against that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconMama Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 I wonder if part of too is that 2 out of the 3 teams we have played so far this year run the 3-4 D and schematically our O-line just doesn't perform as well against that.We've only faced 1 3-4 team and that's the Dolphins. The Pats switched to a 4-3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazoo Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 falcons4lifeSmitty said after the game in New England that the offensive line is doing just fine and then implied Truner was the problem. After saying the OL was NOT the problem and that they were doin their job is really didn;t leave a lot to wonder what Smitty meant! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philosophico Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 I honestly think the OL is during a poor job run blocking, there pass blocking has risen but their run blocking is decrease. I was comparing the lines of the cowboys to ours and I remember seeing them create massive holes, when I think of our lines, I clearly remember McClure getting blowed up at the point of attack. I even remember one rushing play, McClure got knocked to the side and Turner then got tackled. Now the fumbles, are all on Turner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesus Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 Grady Jackson left behind his honeybaked ham punch card Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlanta greatest city Ÿ Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 TJ Duckett part 2????STFU! Idiot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gimmesomo!!! Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 His weight isn't the issue. It's the run blocking by the o-line.thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenzy™® Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 idk, but he does look slower.Maybe he isnt hitting the holes fast enough,maybe theyre not opening up like last year,maybe a little bit of both Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karst41 Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 Hint Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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