Rodney Harrison said it

[vafalconfan]

Last night they were asking Rodney Harrison about the Patriots win. He said after what the jets did to Brady last week he could not understand how the Falcons let him stand back there and pick them apart. He was almost in disbelief.

We saw the same thing against Carolina (eagles blitzed) and we did nothing except rush 4 lineman with a blitz here and there.

How much longer can VanGorder stand pat and watch this? If we don't have the defensive line personnel you have to find ways pressure the quarterback. It's going to be a long season if this defensive scheme is not overhauled.

[FalconinPA]

I agree 100 percent!

[paulitik]

Last night they were asking Rodney Harrison about the Patriots win. He said after what the jets did to Brady last week he could not understand how the Falcons let him stand back there and pick them apart. He was almost in disbelief.

We saw the same thing against Carolina (eagles blitzed) and we did nothing except rush 4 lineman with a blitz here and there.

How much longer can VanGorder stand pat and watch this? If we don't have the defensive line personnel you have to find ways pressure the quarterback. It's going to be a long season if this defensive scheme is not overhauled.

It blows my mind, aren't we supposed to be an attacking Defense? We did it against the Dolphins, now we are playing more Vanilla than last year.

[Sun Tzu 7]

Do you mean Bob VanGorder?

I think his gameplan assumed our offense would do more...

But you would have thought he would have looked at the film and said 'well if it worked for them....'

But plain and simple.... he was also out coached.

[Bring It]

We have the most vanilla, passive Defense in the NFL.

Pathetic.

[(R) = sore loser]

Last night they were asking Rodney Harrison about the Patriots win. He said after what the jets did to Brady last week he could not understand how the Falcons let him stand back there and pick them apart. He was almost in disbelief.

We saw the same thing against Carolina (eagles blitzed) and we did nothing except rush 4 lineman with a blitz here and there.

How much longer can VanGorder stand pat and watch this? If we don't have the defensive line personnel you have to find ways pressure the quarterback. It's going to be a long season if this defensive scheme is not overhauled.

Agreed ....TERRIBLE game plan/ play calling/coaching/execution and game in general!

We are still being pushed around!

[slamee101]

Harrison is a clown.

I said b4 the game don't expect us to do what the Jets did...we don't run that D and we don't have that kind of personnel. You have to have superior coverage in your secondary to pull off that kind of stuff.

Secondly, I did see us bring some pressure from the secondary a few times...it was just picked up.

[marcVA]

uhm, did you not see us in preseason against the chargers? everytime we brought people in to blitz, our secondary got beat in man to man. our coaches know what our strengths and weaknesses are. it's not like every team in the nfl can do the same things. our secondary needs to mature first in order for us to bring men to the qb. that, and we need more help from our line.

[BCEagleATLFalcon]

I understand that the Pats are an infinitely more potent offense than the Dolphins, but I wish we had shown the aggression that we did against the Dolphins in yesterday's game, at least on certain plays.

Of course, the D is still working to gel as a unit ... I believe that, in reality, we're neither as strong as were in Game 1, nor as easily pushed around as we often were in Game 3.

I'll be very interested to see how we come out after the bye.

[(R) = sore loser]

uhm, did you not see us in preseason against the chargers? everytime we brought people in to blitz, our secondary got beat in man to man. our coaches know what our strengths and weaknesses are. it's not like every team in the nfl can do the same things. our secondary needs to mature first in order for us to bring men to the qb. that, and we need more help from our line.

true...we KNEW it was our achilles heel then

[sourdiesal]

You can't score 10 points and expect to beat Tom Brady...Talk about the pass rush is a little short sighted IMHO..

[Clark Kent™]

If we had Darrele Revis and Kerry Rhodes in our Secondary i would feel more comfortable blitzing, but that is really no excuse. You can still find ways to blitz without totally isolating people. It would have been ok to leave someone Iso'd on Galloway or Edelman and sent a blitz.

I just don't understand the lack of blitzing. Has the past 2 years not shown us anything besides how important it is to put pressure on the QB?

[FalconinPA]

We have the most vanilla, passive Defense in the NFL.

Pathetic.

Agreed!! We are who we thought we were

[MilleniumFalcon]

Harrison is a clown.

I said b4 the game don't expect us to do what the Jets did...we don't run that D and we don't have that kind of personnel. You have to have superior coverage in your secondary to pull off that kind of stuff.

Secondly, I did see us bring some pressure from the secondary a few times...it was just picked up.

Regardless if you don't have the personnel to pull it off or not, at least try. If one way isn't working (just getting picked apart with no pressure on Brady what so ever), why not at least try to run some blitzes / overloading one side ? Brady wasn't particular pin point accurate yesterday and Decoud almost got 2 picks.

[duhfalcuns]

wut yall be thinkin, dat dis staff gonna be puttin those whoreid cbs on izlands all day?

dis d aint good, far frum it. duh d-line is turrible, lbs are turrible, and duh secondarie be laffable

[slamee101]

Regardless if you don't have the personnel to pull it off or not, at least try. If one way isn't working (just getting picked apart with no pressure on Brady what so ever), why not at least try to run some blitzes / overloading one side ? Brady wasn't particular pin point accurate yesterday and Decoud almost got 2 picks.

That's just it...was it not working? I mean, it was 16-10 for forever (although a lot of that I still feel was on them) and for whatever reason we couldn't get them off the field on 3rd and 4th and short situations (blitzing was not going to help). Our staff knows where we are as a secondary.

Besides that...if you go back and watch the game I think you'll find we dialed up more bltizes than people are giving BVG credit for...they just picked it up. If you can't get there the times you do blitz and get beat...why would you keep dialing 'em up?

[DeathFromAbove]

I can't believe our DC didn't do SOMETHING to create pressure...ridiculous!

[MilleniumFalcon]

That's just it...was it not working? I mean, it was 16-10 for forever (although a lot of that I still feel was on them) and for whatever reason we couldn't get them off the field on 3rd and 4th and short situations (blitzing was not going to help). Our staff knows where we are as a secondary.

Besides that...if you go back and watch the game I think you'll find we dialed up more bltizes than people are giving BVG credit for...they just picked it up. If you can't get there the times you do blitz and get beat...why would you keep dialing 'em up?

Yes it wasn't working. Brady had all day to throw and he was picking us off at will - see Rodney Harrison's comments. They got to the redzone almost at will. We were lucky they weren't converting those drives to TD's because we would've been really blown out. We ran a couple of blitzes that were obvious, I saw them coming from a mile away and Brady saw it too and setup the protections. We should've masked the blitzes, run some overloads (have more people than they can block), and try to keep the defense guessing. Not just running the base rush 4 every single down becoming oh - so predictable. Mix things up a bit.

[Infinitepwnz]

uhm, did you not see us in preseason against the chargers? everytime we brought people in to blitz, our secondary got beat in man to man. our coaches know what our strengths and weaknesses are. it's not like every team in the nfl can do the same things. our secondary needs to mature first in order for us to bring men to the qb. that, and we need more help from our line.

whoa now, calm down with that logic sir.

[BCEagleATLFalcon]

wut yall be thinkin, dat dis staff gonna be puttin those whoreid cbs on izlands all day?

dis d aint good, far frum it. duh d-line is turrible, lbs are turrible, and duh secondarie be laffable

It's painful for me to read your posts. I spend SO much time telling my students that they need to express themselves properly.

Hmmm, on second thought ... no one puts any weight in your posts at all, so I guess you're actually proving me RIGHT.

[slamee101]

Yes it wasn't working. Brady had all day to throw and he was picking us off at will - see Rodney Harrison's comments. They got to the redzone almost at will. We were lucky they weren't converting those drives to TD's because we would've been really blown out. We ran a couple of blitzes that were obvious, I saw them coming from a mile away and Brady saw it too and setup the protections. We should've masked the blitzes, run some overloads (have more people than they can block), and try to keep the defense guessing. Not just running the base rush 4 every single down becoming oh - so predictable. Mix things up a bit.

The point is...for all this "Brady was picking us off"...we were down by 6 points late...so it clearly wasn't working as much as you or Harrison seem to think it was.

It's a lot easier to mask your blitzes in a 3-4...I don't know why people don't realize this. That's why the teams that are effective doing it in the league (Pittsburgh, Baltimore, now the Jets) run it. That said, blitzing is not the end all be all. You get beat if your guys can't get there and we don't have the personnel the Jets do.

Besides, I think the Pats O-line just did a lot better this week than they did last week.

[MilleniumFalcon]

The point is...for all this "Brady was picking us off"...we were down by 6 points late...so it clearly wasn't working as much as you or Harrison seem to think it was.

It's a lot easier to mask your blitzes in a 3-4...I don't know why people don't realize this. That's why the teams that are effective doing it in the league (Pittsburgh, Baltimore, now the Jets) run it. That said, blitzing is not the end all be all. You get beat if your guys can't get there and we don't have the personnel the Jets do.

Besides, I think the Pats O-line just did a lot better this week than they did last week.

Let's analyze the drives:

1st Half

15 play 81 yard drive (FG - 3)

6 play 51 yard drive (TD - 10)

3 play 4 yard drive (Punt)

12 play 58 yard drive (FG - 13)

2nd Half

13 play 79 yard drive (FG 16)

16 play 70 yard drive (FG 19)

3 play 5 yard drive (Punt)

6 play 72 yard drive (Touchdown 26)

So they had 4 drives in each half (8 total), with 6 of them being long drives and resulting in scores, only 2 punts. Like I said before, they were dictating what they wanted to do all day. I don't like it when the defense or offense becomes so predictable.

[slamee101]

Let's analyze the drives:

1st Half

15 play 81 yard drive (FG - 3)

6 play 51 yard drive (TD - 10)

3 play 4 yard drive (Punt)

12 play 58 yard drive (FG - 13)

2nd Half

13 play 79 yard drive (FG 16)

16 play 70 yard drive (FG 19)

3 play 5 yard drive (Punt)

6 play 72 yard drive (Touchdown 26)

So they had 4 drives in each half (8 total), with 6 of them being long drives and resulting in scores, only 2 punts. Like I said before, they were dictating what they wanted to do all day. I don't like it when the defense or offense becomes so predictable.

Yea, and had we stopped them on 4th down at any point we might have been alright. Blitzing wouldn't have solved that...we just needed to make plays and we didn't at those points. That and the fact that our offense didn't produce any points for us in the second half. ZERO!

Our d was not good yesterday...pressure was an issue...but not blitzing was not what lost it for us IMO.

[House]

vangorder is a terrible DC and should not be calling plays for the defense

[pzummo]

Last night they were asking Rodney Harrison about the Patriots win. He said after what the jets did to Brady last week he could not understand how the Falcons let him stand back there and pick them apart. He was almost in disbelief.

We saw the same thing against Carolina (eagles blitzed) and we did nothing except rush 4 lineman with a blitz here and there.

How much longer can VanGorder stand pat and watch this? If we don't have the defensive line personnel you have to find ways pressure the quarterback. It's going to be a long season if this defensive scheme is not overhauled.

The Jets have Darrelle Revis and Lito Sheppard at CB. The Eagles have Asante Samuel and Sheldon Brown. We have Chris Houston and Brian Williams (not knocking Brian, he's been great for us, but he's not Samuel or Revis). It's a LOT bigger of a risk for us to blitz than it is for either of those two teams.