Falco4 Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 Fellow birds,Let me start by prefacing that I've been a Giants fan my entire life. After graduating from BC in 2007, I've watched Ryan's entire career blossom, and thus became an instant Falcons fan when he was drafted. I've been watching the Falcons' progress religiously over the past 1.5 years.This being said, it's hard for me to watch Falcons games in NY because of the Jets and Giants dominating the networks, especially since Sanchez came to NY (Everyone over here is already annointing him better than Ryan, even though he's had a much better defense and a solid running game to support him). How did Matty do vs the Patriots? I saw the stats, and he had no TDs and only 200 yards passing, however, I do know that stats can be misleading. How do you grade his performance vs the Patriots?Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juiceaccts Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 Solid but not impressive, and it looked like the plays being called were designed to nickle and dime the defense rather than test it. I feel like we should have thrown deep a few times and tried to get the run game/play-action going. But we didn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duhfalcuns Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 he wuz wack yowut you be seein is witout turner bustin it for 100yrds each game it all be in duh lap of ryanhe aint gonna do notin witout an 1800 yrd rusha as you be seein yestaday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xfactor Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 He did ok but the play calling from our coaching staff on both sides of the ball were so bad it's a moot point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falco4 Posted September 28, 2009 Author Share Posted September 28, 2009 he wuz wack yowut you be seein is witout turner bustin it for 100yrds each game it all be in duh lap of ryanhe aint gonna do notin witout an 1800 yrd rusha as you be seein yestadayI think that is not new information. I'm a Matt-ryan disciple, but it would be foolish of me to think that he can do everything himself. I love Turner, and without him, Ryan doesn't even come close to a good rookie year. Falcons def need to get the running game going again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falco4 Posted September 28, 2009 Author Share Posted September 28, 2009 he wuz wack yowut you be seein is witout turner bustin it for 100yrds each game it all be in duh lap of ryanhe aint gonna do notin witout an 1800 yrd rusha as you be seein yestadayHow many QBs can you name that can do a lot with a little running game? Warner? Brees? Manning? Any QB is going to have more success when their RB is putting up 100 yards per game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCEagleATLFalcon Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 Fellow birds,Let me start by prefacing that I've been a Giants fan my entire life. After graduating from BC in 2007, I've watched Ryan's entire career blossom, and thus became an instant Falcons fan when he was drafted. I've been watching the Falcons' progress religiously over the past 1.5 years.This being said, it's hard for me to watch Falcons games in NY because of the Jets and Giants dominating the networks, especially since Sanchez came to NY (Everyone over here is already annointing him better than Ryan, even though he's had a much better defense and a solid running game to support him). How did Matty do vs the Patriots? I saw the stats, and he had no TDs and only 200 yards passing, however, I do know that stats can be misleading. How do you grade his performance vs the Patriots?ThanksHey there. I graduated BC in '08 and also subsequently adopted the Falcons as my NFL team. (Although I'd never had one before, so no divided allegiances ... what will you do when the Falcons play the Giants??)Matt did some things VERY well yesterday, but we just always managed to shoot ourselves in the foot. He ran the no-huddle beautifully (no idea why we don't do it more often, he's so effective with it), but the Turner fumble killed the momentum and tempo he'd been building. He threw what I thought was one of his best TD passes since joining the league to Jenkins (that baby dropped in with pinpoint accuracy, something Matt said he wanted to work on in the offseason), but it was nullified by a very questionable offensive PI call. And then the coaching and play calls (IMHO) prevented him from showing off his talents. It's killing me that Sanchez and Flacco seem to have freedom to put up 300 + games, while Ryan is being held back when he is clearly capable of doing the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falco4 Posted September 28, 2009 Author Share Posted September 28, 2009 Hey there. I graduated BC in '08 and also subsequently adopted the Falcons as my NFL team. (Although I'd never had one before, so no divided allegiances ... what will you do when the Falcons play the Giants??)Matt did some things VERY well yesterday, but we just always managed to shoot ourselves in the foot. He ran the no-huddle beautifully (no idea why we don't do it more often, he's so effective with it), but the Turner fumble killed the momentum and tempo he'd been building. He threw what I thought was one of his best TD passes since joining the league to Jenkins (that baby dropped in with pinpoint accuracy, something Matt said he wanted to work on in the offseason), but it was nullified by a very questionable offensive PI call. And then the coaching and play calls (IMHO) prevented him from showing off his talents. It's killing me that Sanchez and Flacco seem to have freedom to put up 300 + games, while Ryan is being held back when he is clearly capable of doing the same.BCEaGleATLFaLcOn, I believe you and I have conversed in the past on these Forum boards in regards to the greatness that is Matt Ryan. Hello again.To be quite honest, when the Giants play the Falcons, I will be rooting for the Falcons 100%. Why? The Giants are so good, they'll def take the NFC East, even if they lose to the Falcons, so I don't feel so bad rooting against them for one day. The Falcons need these wins to make the playoffs. Now, if/when the Giants and Falcons are BOTH in the playoffs, and they happen to play each other, I might have a heart attack. I don't even want to think about it until we get to that point in the season.I really want the Falcons to put some more faith in Ryan late in the game. From what I've been hearing, there were a couple of 4th down opportunities where the Falcons decided to punt rather than go for it (why you would want to give the ball to that NE offense, I have no idea). You and I both know that Ryan does his best in the later quarters (vs the Bears last year, vs Virginia Tech, vs Clemson). Give him a chance to work his magic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCEagleATLFalcon Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 BCEaGleATLFaLcOn, I believe you and I have conversed in the past on these Forum boards in regards to the greatness that is Matt Ryan. Hello again.To be quite honest, when the Giants play the Falcons, I will be rooting for the Falcons 100%. Why? The Giants are so good, they'll def take the NFC East, even if they lose to the Falcons, so I don't feel so bad rooting against them for one day. The Falcons need these wins to make the playoffs. Now, if/when the Giants and Falcons are BOTH in the playoffs, and they happen to play each other, I might have a heart attack. I don't even want to think about it until we get to that point in the season.I really want the Falcons to put some more faith in Ryan late in the game. From what I've been hearing, there were a couple of 4th down opportunities where the Falcons decided to punt rather than go for it (why you would want to give the ball to that NE offense, I have no idea). You and I both know that Ryan does his best in the later quarters (vs the Bears last year, vs Virginia Tech, vs Clemson). Give him a chance to work his magic.THANK YOU!!!! lol. It's as though someone has missed the memo that Matt loves the pressure of the fourth quarter and, far more often than not, delivers. We saw it so many times in college. Remember that amazing double OT win against Clemson to start the season your senior year?? You just KNEW that Matt was going to pull it out. Same thing with all the other games you mentioned (I'm assuming you meant the game with the 50-yarder to Gunnell to clinch ACC Championship berth when you wrote Clemson).:: Anyway, nice to run into another fan who has watched Matt through college into the NFL. The Giants game should be interesting, to say the least ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lou Dog Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 Fellow birds,Let me start by prefacing that I've been a Giants fan my entire life. After graduating from BC in 2007, I've watched Ryan's entire career blossom, and thus became an instant Falcons fan when he was drafted. I've been watching the Falcons' progress religiously over the past 1.5 years.This being said, it's hard for me to watch Falcons games in NY because of the Jets and Giants dominating the networks, especially since Sanchez came to NY (Everyone over here is already annointing him better than Ryan, even though he's had a much better defense and a solid running game to support him). How did Matty do vs the Patriots? I saw the stats, and he had no TDs and only 200 yards passing, however, I do know that stats can be misleading. How do you grade his performance vs the Patriots?Thanks he did ok. our D blew it for us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncja Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 (edited) he did ok. our D blew it for usHe led our offense to 1 td, 1 fg, and 5 punts. This was not one of his better showings for us. Edited September 28, 2009 by poutlipper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falco4 Posted September 28, 2009 Author Share Posted September 28, 2009 THANK YOU!!!! lol. It's as though someone has missed the memo that Matt loves the pressure of the fourth quarter and, far more often than not, delivers. We saw it so many times in college. Remember that amazing double OT win against Clemson to start the season your senior year?? You just KNEW that Matt was going to pull it out. Same thing with all the other games you mentioned (I'm assuming you meant the game with the 50-yarder to Gunnell to clinch ACC Championship berth when you wrote Clemson).:: Anyway, nice to "meet" another fan who has watched Matt through college into the NFL. The Giants game should be interesting, to say the least ...One my friends, who also went to BC and graduated in your class(you might know him; last name is Dipaci), has tickets to the Falcons vs Giants in the Meadowlands. He said that I have first dibbs on the tickets, so I'm more than excited. Really not sure if I'm going to wear my Ryan jersey to the game, but it's a possibility.The Ryan game that I was talking about was the comeback vs Virginia Tech when BC recovered an onside kick, and Ryan threw to Calander in the endzone to win the game. I always knew we were going to win that game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpsuh05 Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 Hey. I'm from NY myself. Moved to atlanta 5 years ago. If you have trouble watching the game use this website.You can watch EVERY sports game on live steamingWWW.ATDHE.NETthank me later =D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falco4 Posted September 28, 2009 Author Share Posted September 28, 2009 He led our offense to 1 td, 1 fg, and 5 punts. This was not one of his better showings for us.From the majority of posts that I've seen today, fans have been saying that the play-calling/coaching affected the poor offense. Regardless, I'd feel better with the ball in Ryan's hands at the end of the game rather than punt it to NE who is going to move it down the field and waste clock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCEagleATLFalcon Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 One my friends, who also went to BC and graduated in your class(you might know him; last name is Dipaci), has tickets to the Falcons vs Giants in the Meadowlands. He said that I have first dibbs on the tickets, so I'm more than excited. Really not sure if I'm going to wear my Ryan jersey to the game, but it's a possibility.The Ryan game that I was talking about was the comeback vs Virginia Tech when BC recovered an onside kick, and Ryan threw to Calander in the endzone to win the game. I always knew we were going to win that game.Oh, I was just trying to figure out which Clemson game you were thinking of (there was the double OT win in Alumni and then the 4th-quarter pass to Gunnell in Death Valley that took us to our first ACC Championship game ... both such fun games to watch!!!!).I will never forget THE VTech game. The party in the Mods that night was like nothing I've ever seen. The BC Band members came out to play, Baldwin dressed up, beer was being sprayed in every direction, BCPD was more or less joining us rather than stopping us, people were climbing onto the top of the Mods roofs and jumping down into the crowd ... one of my favorite nights as a senior. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falco4 Posted September 28, 2009 Author Share Posted September 28, 2009 Oh, I was just trying to figure out which Clemson game you were thinking of (there was the double OT win in Alumni and then the 4th-quarter pass to Gunnell in Death Valley that took us to our first ACC Championship game ... both such fun games to watch!!!!).I will never forget THE VTech game. The party in the Mods that night was like nothing I've ever seen. The BC Band members came out to play, Baldwin dressed up, beer was being sprayed in every direction, BCPD was more or less joining us rather than stopping us, people were climbing onto the top of the Mods roofs and jumping down into the crowd ... one of my favorite nights as a senior.Unbelievable. I wish I could have been there. Instead, I was drunk at a 2 for 1 @ Chilis. Needless to say, I was the only BC fan in the place (let alone the entire NY Metropolitan Area). I was going crazy and almost got kicked out. What a lame story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncja Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 From the majority of posts that I've seen today, fans have been saying that the play-calling/coaching affected the poor offense. Regardless, I'd feel better with the ball in Ryan's hands at the end of the game rather than punt it to NE who is going to move it down the field and waste clock.Oh no question... I posted earlier that 3 possessions in the 4th quarter.. down 9 we punted on 4th and 7, 4th and 4, and 4th and 3. They should have let Ryan try atleast the 4th and 4 and 4th and 3. The second possession in the 4th just made it look clear like they had given up. 1st down run with Turner, 2nd down run with Turner, 3rd down roll out right, thrown out of bounds. This is with 7-9 minutes left in the game, down 9 points by the way. This was just a poorly coached game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 Matt Ryan was the only guy on our team who came to play yesterday. They need to open up the offense. He is our best player and it doesn't make sense to continue to take the ball out of his hands by being either too conservative with the running game or not going for it when the game is on the line in the 4th. Maybe he is being timid with his reads, but I doubt it. It is a lot of 3 and 5 step drops, with the ball coming out quickly. Now, maybe they don't trust our O-line to let the routes develop down fields, but a couple of deep shots a game and some more 20-25 yard passes (which Ryan excels at, as you know from watching him at BC) seems like a great idea. I honestly think it is the offensive mentality of being a run first team. That is fine, but if by the 4th quarter it is clear that the run game isn't getting it done then be willing to open it up. Likewise, if a few weeks from now the run game - both Turner and the O-line - are not getting it done be willing to make the transition to a wider open offense that isn't afraid of throwing 40 times a game. We play like we have a top 10 defense, and we can't beat a team - especially New England - 14-10 and rely on our thus far so-so running game and mediocre D to bail us out. We have to go out with the mentality to put up points and if that means flinging it around and taking some risks, so be it. Look at what the Ravens did, and look at how the Steelers have gone from run first to relying on Roethlisberger. We don't have either teams defense, and we still have a better running game, but we do have a great QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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