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Turner looks burned out - I would only use him in goal-line plays

I don't know if we just ran him too often last year or what but the speed that he did have to the hole is gone

He is still very effective inside the 5 for goal line type plays but

he seems done for every down back

I think we should get Thomas Brown back and

run Snelling as the primary most downs and Thomas Brown and/or Norwood as the alternative and give Turner alot of rest except inside the 5

The clear lack of a running game is killing us

I don't care if we paid Turner all that money-- we should use someone else

because as we saw this team do too often with Warrick Dunn

----using someone after they are no longer 1st team effective anymore... just because we feel like we have a "duty"

to do so is counter productive

I bet if we had Snelling as the featured back today with "fresh legs"

instead of Turner doing the bowling ball "cha cha cha" nervous tippy-toe routine we would have won this game

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running game is killing us

I don't care if we paid Turner all that money-- we should use someone else

because as we saw this team do too often with Warrick Dunn

----using someone after they are no longer 1st team effective anymore... just because we feel like we have a "duty"

to do so is counter productive

I bet if we had Snelling as the featured back today with "fresh legs"

instead of Turner doing the bowling ball "cha cha cha" nervous tippy-toe routine we would have won this game

This is a ridiculous perspective. The offensive line has been pretty ineffective against the run this year. Today wilfork was getting penetration all day until he got hurt and then we were not moving anyone. Turner is not a good lateral RB. Never has been. He is a power back with very good speed. He has to get some forward progress to be effective and when he is being hit at the line of scrimage he cannot get going. Turner is a very good back and teams know this. There were a dozen times today where NE push 9 men into the box to stop him. The problem isnt Turner it's our lack of vertical passing attack that is allowing teams to push everyone up and jam the line.

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turner does look slow, but just because he hasnt had the greatest first 3 games of the season doesnt mean you give up on him. keep in mind a lot of teams now are geared against our running game. we need to prove we can win with a passing game as well, and we did the first two weeks. Im sure at some point turner will regain his sea legs...i hope

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The truth hurts - he is SLOW to the line

he has lost the speed he did have last year

Your right 100 yds and a TD last game and 60 yds and a TD on 15 carries this week is pathetic... Lets just forget about the 1700 yds and 17 TDs last year and focus on the now. He is old 27 and had 1 bad game and 2 above avg games. Hes only averaging 3.5 yds a game and hasnt had a 200 yd game yet. Oh and lets not forget how injury prone he is ;) now plz report to the bucs board there team really needs you embarrasing them even more

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Turner looks burned out - I would only use him in goal-line plays

I don't know if we just ran him too often last year or what but the speed that he did have to the hole is gone

He is still very effective inside the 5 for goal line type plays but

he seems done for every down back

I think we should get Thomas Brown back and

run Snelling as the primary most downs and Thomas Brown and/or Norwood as the alternative and give Turner alot of rest except inside the 5

The clear lack of a running game is killing us

I don't care if we paid Turner all that money-- we should use someone else

because as we saw this team do too often with Warrick Dunn

----using someone after they are no longer 1st team effective anymore... just because we feel like we have a "duty"

to do so is counter productive

I bet if we had Snelling as the featured back today with "fresh legs"

instead of Turner doing the bowling ball "cha cha cha" nervous tippy-toe routine we would have won this game

BYE!!! GET OUT!!!

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There's nothing wrong with Turner. He had at least 50% of his yards today AFTER the first hit. When Wilfork is 2 yards deep before the handoff, that's a problem. When Turner has the choice of running into the back of his own lineman, or straight into one or two opposing players, that's a problem. WE'RE NOT GETTING THE BLOCKING.

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Turner looks burned out - I would only use him in goal-line plays

I don't know if we just ran him too often last year or what but the speed that he did have to the hole is gone

He is still very effective inside the 5 for goal line type plays but

he seems done for every down back

I think we should get Thomas Brown back and

run Snelling as the primary most downs and Thomas Brown and/or Norwood as the alternative and give Turner alot of rest except inside the 5

The clear lack of a running game is killing us

I don't care if we paid Turner all that money-- we should use someone else

because as we saw this team do too often with Warrick Dunn

----using someone after they are no longer 1st team effective anymore... just because we feel like we have a "duty"

to do so is counter productive

I bet if we had Snelling as the featured back today with "fresh legs"

instead of Turner doing the bowling ball "cha cha cha" nervous tippy-toe routine we would have won this game

It isn't turner. It is the fact that this coaching staff insists on running the ball even if there are 11 men in the box. You have to show other teams that you can win without running the ball at all or they will keep stacking the box.

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Turner looks burned out - I would only use him in goal-line plays

I don't know if we just ran him too often last year or what but the speed that he did have to the hole is gone

He is still very effective inside the 5 for goal line type plays but

he seems done for every down back

I think we should get Thomas Brown back and

run Snelling as the primary most downs and Thomas Brown and/or Norwood as the alternative and give Turner alot of rest except inside the 5

The clear lack of a running game is killing us

I don't care if we paid Turner all that money-- we should use someone else

because as we saw this team do too often with Warrick Dunn

----using someone after they are no longer 1st team effective anymore... just because we feel like we have a "duty"

to do so is counter productive

I bet if we had Snelling as the featured back today with "fresh legs"

instead of Turner doing the bowling ball "cha cha cha" nervous tippy-toe routine we would have won this game

you stupid!

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The only thing slow in this thread is the OP. I hope for your parents sake that you are eight years old.

don't take my word for it.....let the tape prove it... If you are enough of a fan that you have last years games on DVR or video ...play

them and see how fast it takes him to run to the line in the games last year and runs in open space

versus this year --- you'll see he is much slower

--even during the few times where he has had open field this year

yes-- he does a good job of getting some yac

as he did last year - however he is significantly slower

whether that is physical , or from being too indecisive I don't know but it is clear when he is in open space he no longer

has that "burst" of speed he had last year

in similarly situated blocks

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