SWIFT HITTER Posted September 21, 2009 Share Posted September 21, 2009 did him getting up to field and not the being in position to fight off block and stop that run. To me he should have recognized the play and made a effort to throw his body into Williamslink55 seconds in.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andre5000 Posted September 21, 2009 Share Posted September 21, 2009 did him getting up to field and not the being in position to fight off block and stop that run. To me he should have recognized the play and made a effort to throw his body into Williamslink55 seconds in.. I saw him get locked up and tied up with blockers the whole game.. The guy has nothing.. Im tired of him.. I had his back the first 2 years.. Over him now.. He's a wash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlacksburgHokie Posted September 21, 2009 Share Posted September 21, 2009 I don't really care about the bad/average plays he makes every game, just the lack of big plays.For every single defensive lineman that played yesterday you could probably point to at least one play where they were out of position, missed an assignment or were just straight-up beat... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaymadd Posted September 21, 2009 Share Posted September 21, 2009 I agree i saw that play and was like come on JamaaL. Jamaal needs to learn to read run plays better and disengage from the blocker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zone3lb Posted September 21, 2009 Share Posted September 21, 2009 I saw that he read the back was going to hit the gap. He and the tackle got into a hands fight, but JA was getting stood up so he couldnt see into the backfeild. The other part of that play is the acceleration of the back was almost unreal. The only way the DE wins that battle would be if the DT controlled the gap while he got a good jump outside. That play wouldve been a decent gain anyway cause the D-line got their butts whooped on that one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wonderboy09 Posted September 21, 2009 Share Posted September 21, 2009 My thing is this.....Jamaal is a top 10 pick. We are to expect him to make great plays, let alone the routine plays, and he does not. I think at this point it's obvious he's not a 1st round talent..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomFan Posted September 21, 2009 Share Posted September 21, 2009 I saw that he read the back was going to hit the gap. He and the tackle got into a hands fight, but JA was getting stood up so he couldnt see into the backfeild. The other part of that play is the acceleration of the back was almost unreal. The only way the DE wins that battle would be if the DT controlled the gap while he got a good jump outside. That play wouldve been a decent gain anyway cause the D-line got their butts whooped on that oneYa, except for the fact that was a TE blocking him, not an OL... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaymadd Posted September 21, 2009 Share Posted September 21, 2009 Ya, except for the fact that was a TE blocking him, not an OL...Yeah it was Jeff King at that. I am sorry but JA98 is taking up space now, as the game went on it seemed like he saw less and less playing time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zone3lb Posted September 21, 2009 Share Posted September 21, 2009 Yeah I see, but the entire line failed on that. Watch both DT's get picked up and droped off 5 yds up field Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice74 Posted September 21, 2009 Share Posted September 21, 2009 My thing is this.....Jamaal is a top 10 pick. We are to expect him to make great plays, let alone the routine plays, and he does not. I think at this point it's obvious he's not a 1st round talent.....ohh def, based on what he is and has done, he's 5th round talent at best Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice74 Posted September 21, 2009 Share Posted September 21, 2009 think about it, if we had drafted this guy in the 5th round, right now you would be happy with his production and salary cap hit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karst41 Posted September 21, 2009 Share Posted September 21, 2009 98 quit on plays during the Pre Season.Bierman kept working hard and was relentless.Both have taken what they did in the Pre Season into the Regular Season.How you practice is exactly what you will take into Game Day,,,,End O Story !98 is Pine Sol and you will not see him as a Falcon next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ki46dinah Posted September 21, 2009 Share Posted September 21, 2009 I wasnt too upset with him on that play...he did an OK job in my opinion....BUT there is no excuse for this:2 games started0 tackles0 QH's0 TFL's1 pass deflection Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zone3lb Posted September 21, 2009 Share Posted September 21, 2009 think about it, if we had drafted this guy in the 5th round, right now you would be happy with his production and salary cap hitI have always wonder why its the players fault or why hes labeled a bust when he has no control over when and where is drafted. Why arent the scouts and GM the busts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nobkowski Posted September 21, 2009 Share Posted September 21, 2009 I wasnt too upset with him on that play...he did an OK job in my opinion....BUT there is no excuse for this:2 games started0 tackles0 QH's0 TFL's1 pass deflectionsad but true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaymadd Posted September 21, 2009 Share Posted September 21, 2009 I have always wonder why its the players fault or why hes labeled a bust when he has no control over when and where is drafted. Why arent the scouts and GM the busts.Mckay was a bust for picking JA98 without working him out. IMO at this point it doesnt matter what round he was picked in, if he was a late round pick he would have been cut by now, but because he was a 1st round pick he is getting the benefit of the doubt , so actually his 1st round draft status is really working out for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcons Ace Posted September 21, 2009 Share Posted September 21, 2009 I have always wonder why its the players fault or why hes labeled a bust when he has no control over when and where is drafted. Why arent the scouts and GM the busts.A player is labeled a boom or bust based on where they are drafted. Their draft position reflects what you expect out of them as a player. Jamaal was drafted 8th Overall. A player drafted that high is expected to be a franchise player, or at least produce very well for his position. Was he a bad pick? So far? Yes, he's been a monumental mistake. So far he's leaning closer to MAJOR bust instead of even moderate success. Now here's the thing with Jamaal. It's not like he's been inconsistent or average, he's been performing absolutely abysmally by any standard.His Miami performance was solid, but Carolina was absolutely terrible. He was getting blocked entirely out of play by a TE named Fish for God's sake. That's absolutely terrible. His performance is below average at this point, he is getting payed like a high 1st rounder, and he's been a liability on the field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xFalconLord Posted September 21, 2009 Share Posted September 21, 2009 This was not a good play. He should keep the play from getting to the edge and force it back inside AT LEAST. He also could have beat the block and made a tackle (if he wanted to actually be productive). Lastly, he could have moved laterally well enough to string the play out to allow others to swarm to the ball. He opted to do none of the above. Part of it is that he doesnt have the physical ability to beat a TE 1v1, he doesnt have the speed to keep up with a QB (much less a HB), and he doesnt have the desire to overcome his physical limitations. Its a total lost cause, and has been for a while now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaymadd Posted September 21, 2009 Share Posted September 21, 2009 This was not a good play. He should keep the play from getting to the edge and force it back inside AT LEAST. He also could have beat the block and made a tackle (if he wanted to actually be productive). Lastly, he could have moved laterally well enough to string the play out to allow others to swarm to the ball. He opted to do none of the above. Part of it is that he doesnt have the physical ability to beat a TE 1v1, he doesnt have the speed to keep up with a QB (much less a HB), and he doesnt have the desire to overcome his physical limitations. Its a total lost cause, and has been for a while now.After that play i pretty much gave up on JA98, hopefully he proves me and you wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimsmusic™ Posted September 21, 2009 Share Posted September 21, 2009 I don't really care about the bad/average plays he makes every game, just the lack of big plays.For every single defensive lineman that played yesterday you could probably point to at least one play where they were out of position, missed an assignment or were just straight-up beat...yepd-line just got manhandled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robb4242 Posted September 21, 2009 Share Posted September 21, 2009 did him getting up to field and not the being in position to fight off block and stop that run. To me he should have recognized the play and made a effort to throw his body into Williamslink55 seconds in..Should he have? Maybe.However, this is EXACTLY how Biermann plays every run and absolutely NOBODY on this MB (besides me) seems to have a problem with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joremarid Posted September 21, 2009 Share Posted September 21, 2009 chris houston's attempt at a tackle on the next play wasn't pretty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xFalconLord Posted September 21, 2009 Share Posted September 21, 2009 think about it, if we had drafted this guy in the 5th round, right now you would be happy with his production and salary cap hitno, you are wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xFalconLord Posted September 21, 2009 Share Posted September 21, 2009 Should he have? Maybe.However, this is EXACTLY how Biermann plays every run and absolutely NOBODY on this MB (besides me) seems to have a problem with it.Robb seriously bro. This generalization to try and prove a point just makes you look bad. Its absolutely not true. Biermann disengage's blocks and gets in on tackles. That is the exact opposite of how Anderson plays the run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaymadd Posted September 21, 2009 Share Posted September 21, 2009 Robb seriously bro. This generalization to try and prove a point just makes you look bad. Its absolutely not true. Biermann disengage's blocks and gets in on tackles. That is the exact opposite of how Anderson plays the run.Yeah Robb please provide a link to where you are getting your info from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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