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I'm now convinced that the village idiot has hijacked conservatives.

1) The bailouts were started by Bush before he left office.

2) LMAO at the kid talking about raising taxes.

3) Most of these idiots don't even know what they are protesting for. What does "take back my country mean?"

This makes Americans look stupid.

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Hmm, might want to talk to your friend:

:lol:

I love it.

Do you know what a class system is Steve? Do you know that Fascism mainly promotes the idea that stronger races should only prosper? It promotes a society with total conflict among races and ethnicity. Thus creating a class system divided by those same lines.

Your best example of Fascism is Hitler. He believed the Aryan race to be supreme. The most healthy and etc. He perceived Jews to be sick and subhuman.

But don't take my word for it. Go read. Quit being like those morons in the video.

Fascism has the government controlling business and labor.

Socialism has the public controlling business and labor.

Fascism insists on a supreme class.

Socialism serves all.

Go learn Steve. Quit being willfully ignorant.

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You're the one that said authoritarian socialism = fascism not me.

Glad you are educating yourself now.

Quit cherry picking my posts just because you are too STUPID to know basic history.

Do you not understand that the phrase you are throwing out there is contradictory?

Authoritarian. AUTHORITY as in the Government, Steve. When you consider yourself part of the Nationalist or Authoritarian system, you are Fascist. Nationalism also quickly and easily is Fascism. Look up the NATIONALIST SOCIALISTS. Compare it to the fact that Fascists give control of business and labor to the Government. Then any distribution is primarily to only insure survival of the "supreme class." That is your NAZI party. That is why Hitler was truly a Fascist and NOT a Socialist as was claimed.

Read closely:

When you remove the public control of business and labor and put it in the hands of the government(Authoritarian), IT.....IS......FASCISM.

The reason people like you are punchlines in these videos is because this whole time you say you fear Socialism, what you are fearing is FASCISM! :o And if you want to remain ignorant and ignore some basic comprehension, then cherry pick this post like you do the rest. -_-

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The point is that authoritarian socialism != fascism. Stalin and Hitler were both bad but they weren't the same thing.

And throwing insults means you are losing the intellectual battle, not winning it.

Quit cherry picking my posts just because you are too STUPID to know basic history.

Do you not understand that the phrase you are throwing out there is contradictory?

Authoritarian. AUTHORITY as in the Government, Steve. When you consider yourself part of the Nationalist or Authoritarian system, you are Fascist. Nationalism also quickly and easily is Fascism. Look up the NATIONALIST SOCIALISTS. Compare it to the fact that Fascists give control of business and labor to the Government. Then any distribution is primarily to only insure survival of the "supreme class." That is your NAZI party. That is why Hitler was truly a Fascist and NOT a Socialist as was claimed.

Read closely:

When you remove the public control of business and labor and put it in the hands of the government(Authoritarian), IT.....IS......FASCISM.

The reason people like you are punchlines in these videos is because this whole time you say you fear Socialism, what you are fearing is FASCISM! :o And if you want to remain ignorant and ignore some basic comprehension, then cherry pick this post like you do the rest. -_-

at least know some basic history before you start arguing the subject

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I haven't lost anything. Name one thing I have said that is incorrect. Not putting words in my mouth, quote me on it.

I quoted you on something that was completely incorrect. By your definition you think Hitler and Stalin were the same. They were not. Authoritarian socialism is not the same thing as fascism.

Hitler = Fascist

Stalin = Authoritarian Socialist (communist in the historical context)

I feel sorry for you. I really do. -_-

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Quit cherry picking my posts just because you are too STUPID to know basic history.

Do you not understand that the phrase you are throwing out there is contradictory?

Authoritarian. AUTHORITY as in the Government, Steve. When you consider yourself part of the Nationalist or Authoritarian system, you are Fascist. Nationalism also quickly and easily is Fascism. Look up the NATIONALIST SOCIALISTS. Compare it to the fact that Fascists give control of business and labor to the Government. Then any distribution is primarily to only insure survival of the "supreme class." That is your NAZI party. That is why Hitler was truly a Fascist and NOT a Socialist as was claimed.

Read closely:

When you remove the public control of business and labor and put it in the hands of the government(Authoritarian), IT.....IS......FASCISM.

The reason people like you are punchlines in these videos is because this whole time you say you fear Socialism, what you are fearing is FASCISM! :o And if you want to remain ignorant and ignore some basic comprehension, then cherry pick this post like you do the rest. -_-

Since you wanted to scan right over my post. Here it is again.

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Quit cherry picking my posts just because you are too STUPID to know basic history.

Do you not understand that the phrase you are throwing out there is contradictory?

Authoritarian. AUTHORITY as in the Government, Steve. When you consider yourself part of the Nationalist or Authoritarian system, you are Fascist. Nationalism also quickly and easily is Fascism. Look up the NATIONALIST SOCIALISTS. Compare it to the fact that Fascists give control of business and labor to the Government. Then any distribution is primarily to only insure survival of the "supreme class." That is your NAZI party. That is why Hitler was truly a Fascist and NOT a Socialist as was claimed.

Read closely:

When you remove the public control of business and labor and put it in the hands of the government(Authoritarian), IT.....IS......FASCISM.

The reason people like you are punchlines in these videos is because this whole time you say you fear Socialism, what you are fearing is FASCISM! :o And if you want to remain ignorant and ignore some basic comprehension, then cherry pick this post like you do the rest. -_-

Since you wanted to scan right over my post. Here it is again.

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I read it. And you're putting words in my mouth again. I never said that Hitler was a socialist. He was a fascist.

Nationalist Socialists

Authoritarian Socialists

Same thing.

They both = Fascism.

MISNOMER

* Main Entry: mis·no·mer

* Pronunciation: \ˌmis-ˈnō-mər\

* Function: noun

* Etymology: Middle English misnoumer, from Anglo-French mesnomer, from mes- mis- + nomer to name, from Latin nominare — more at nominate

* Date: 15th century

1 : the misnaming of a person in a legal instrument

2 a : a use of a wrong or inappropriate name b : a wrong name or inappropriate designation

Hitler had more in common with Stalin than people like to admit. Perhaps that is why the both signed a pact? Yep.

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Authoritarian socialism and fascism have a lot of similarities but they are not the same thing.

Fascists reject ideas of class conflict and internationalism which are key socialist ideas.

:blink:

Please tell me you are joking.

Fascism rejects any idea of Pacifism. They embrace class conflict because they never believe you can have an equal society.(Which btw, there are some closet Fascists on this board who just haven't realized it yet.)

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???

Socialists believe in a classless society and fascists don't.

Fascists are nationalists and socialists are internationalists.

What's wrong with those statements?

Looked to me like you were trying to say Socialists shared the same ideas as Fascists.

But you are right, for once. But where you fail to make the leap is that in any form of government that removes the public ownership, it also removes any true form of Socialism.

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Once again putting words in my mouth.

I never said that fascists were pacifists.

And apparently you got the wrong definition for class conflict. Read: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Class_conflict

Fascists do not embrace "class conflict"

Again, it came from the structure of your post looking like you were saying Fascists and Socialists rejected class conflict.

Fascists reject ideas of class conflict and internationalism which are key socialist ideas.

Even now it still looks like you were confused.

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Because "true form of Socialism" is a fairy tale. It's an ideology that has never worked and will never work.

I (and most other people) look at communism and socialism in the historical context. The promise of removal of public ownership but then complete public ownership.

If you want "removal of publish ownership" then you should sign up with the libertarian party or constitution party because they are the only ones headed that direction.

True form of Socialism is not a fairy tale. That's like saying true form of Democracy is a fairy tale. Or true form of Republic is fairy tale.

You and SOME other people(not most) look at Communism and Socialism in the confused context. Instead of reading what someone tells you to label something, you could enlighten yourself of what a certain system's foundation is then compare it to the labeled. It's called thinking for yourself. I know it's easier for bias and preaching as an easy way out of thinking but if you want to have the actual knowledge, you are going to need to think for yourself. That's what we call independence, Steve. But continue to let others do the thinking for you if you want to remain just as confused as those before you.

If you want "removal of publish ownership" then you should sign up with the libertarian party or constitution party because they are the only ones headed that direction.

What are you talking about? :huh:

Removal of public ownership is what leads to Fascism. That's why Socialism is on the left. Communism is far left and Fascism is far right. Your removal of public ownership is on the path to Fascism just as Socialism is on the path to Communism.

I never said I want to be Fascist. :mellow:

The constant battle is that people think they can hover in the middle and evolve. While there will always be the constant movement of our system going left or right.

The real fairy tale is the dream that you can stay in limbo and actually go somewhere. All we do is fight ourselves and go nowhere.

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