FalconMama Posted September 9, 2009 Share Posted September 9, 2009 Remember the scene in "This is Spinal Tap" where Bruno Kirby, playing the Sinatra-loving limo driver, opines to the boys in the band that rock and roll, in his not-so-humble opinion, is nothing more than a "fad"?Atlanta Falcons quarterback Matt Ryan made me think of that classic scene with a simple five-word comment in this week's Sports Illustrated. In a roundtable interview with fellow young QBs Ben Roethlisberger, Aaron Rodgers, Carson Palmer and Tony Romo, Ryan was asked by SI's Peter King if he thought "the college spread and the Wildcat [are] part of a revolution or just the normal evolution of the game?"Palmer called it a "fad," saying he believed "you'll see it for eight more weeks, and once some defensive coordinator comes up with a way to stop it, a certain blitz to control it, offenses will get back to the stuff that's worked for decades."Ryan, up next, chimed in with: "I think it's a fad."Considering the Falcons open their season with the Miami Dolphins, the world's leading practioners of the Wildcat and probably the leading reason for it's rapid spread, this could be viewed as a risky comment.When I asked Ryan about the interview this morning on a weekly conference call with South Florida writers, he dutifully answered but he wasn't too thrilled about it."The way in which I said it was, 'Do you think the Wildcat will take over and become permanent offenses?' and I just don’t think it will," Ryan said. "I think regular offenses will still be out there. Not to say Miami hasn’t done a great job with it."They did an exceptional job last year and it’s going to be tough for our defense to deal with that this week. Those were just some of the comments that I made. I certainly think Miami did a great job with it last year and had a ton of success and I really think won some games as a result of using that formation and those plays."What about the Falcons defense? Have any of those guys come up and jokingly "thanked" Ryan for throwing out the F-word in advance of Sunday's game?"Nothing really," Ryan said. "I don’t think there is a lot made of it.The comments are certainly not directed at Miami. Nobody really said much about it."Not yet. http://blogs.sun-sentinel.com/sports_footb...nces-a-bit.htmlCan anyone show me where he "rips" the Wildcat? Looks like Mike Berardino is trying to create some bulletin board material. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinitepwnz Posted September 9, 2009 Share Posted September 9, 2009 Calling it a "fad" (which it is), is ripping it? lol. Talk about reaching there in Miami. I guess they are trying to get them all fired up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peyton Posted September 9, 2009 Share Posted September 9, 2009 A reporter trying to make a story where there isn't one. Miami runs like 5% of their plays from the wildcat, it's even a fad to them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesus Posted September 9, 2009 Share Posted September 9, 2009 They did well with it but not great. They didn't get too deep into the playoffs with it. I know as soon as I see Ryan lining up as a WR I don't think our franchise needs him to get hammered by a FS. This will be the last year you see the wildcat as a main formation. It will reappear every now and then but even as the season wore on last year teams figured it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sun Tzu 7 Posted September 9, 2009 Share Posted September 9, 2009 The Wildcat is at best a few plays in a game.If a team comes out running nothing BUT the Wildcat... it would never work.That's the biggest thing about the wildcat... suprise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sun Tzu 7 Posted September 9, 2009 Share Posted September 9, 2009 They did well with it but not great. They didn't get too deep into the playoffs with it. I know as soon as I see Ryan lining up as a WR I don't think our franchise needs him to get hammered by a FS. This will be the last year you see the wildcat as a main formation. It will reappear every now and then but even as the season wore on last year teams figured it out.Yeah, I'm suprised more teams don't use it as an opportunity to knock out the QB... it's a free shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebonymonk Posted September 9, 2009 Share Posted September 9, 2009 Who would want the Wildcat as their primary offense anyways? It's just an extra wrinkle to give teams something else to gameplan for. It would be a trip for Miami not to use it after knowing another team has spent parts of the week planning for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Statick Posted September 9, 2009 Share Posted September 9, 2009 The Wildcat is at best a few plays in a game.If a team comes out running nothing BUT the Wildcat... it would never work.That's the biggest thing about the wildcat... suprise.It's not even a surprise most times, especially if you learn to recognize the personnel setups on the field.Like I've said before, just know your defensive assignments and knock the crap outta them is the best way to stop the Wildcat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DearbornDolfan Posted September 9, 2009 Share Posted September 9, 2009 Yeah, I'm suprised more teams don't use it as an opportunity to knock out the QB... it's a free shot.No, it's not. Leaving aside the fact that you can't hit a QB if they aren't involved in a play, it's an automatic 15 yards anyway for unnecessary roughness. Learn the rules before you opine on something, please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peyton Posted September 9, 2009 Share Posted September 9, 2009 No, it's not. Leaving aside the fact that you can't hit a QB if they aren't involved in a play, it's an automatic 15 yards anyway for unnecessary roughness. Learn the rules before you opine on something, please.If they are lined up as a WR, then they aren't a QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DearbornDolfan Posted September 9, 2009 Share Posted September 9, 2009 That's the biggest thing about the wildcat... suprise.Surprise is only important if the one taking the snap is not a real QB. If you have a real QB who can take Wildcat snaps, like Miami and Phillie both do, then it's not important at all and the best counter (bringing one or two safeties into the box) is nullified. That is, unless you like the smell of burned toast? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Statick Posted September 9, 2009 Share Posted September 9, 2009 No, it's not. Leaving aside the fact that you can't hit a QB if they aren't involved in a play, it's an automatic 15 yards anyway for unnecessary roughness. Learn the rules before you opine on something, please.If the QB is out as a WR or throwing a block out of the RB position, he's fair game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesus Posted September 9, 2009 Share Posted September 9, 2009 No, it's not. Leaving aside the fact that you can't hit a QB if they aren't involved in a play, it's an automatic 15 yards anyway for unnecessary roughness. Learn the rules before you opine on something, please.BuddyBall - Take the 15 yards if you can knock him out of the game, especially early. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Hoopah! Posted September 9, 2009 Share Posted September 9, 2009 If the D can recognize the Wildcat and line up properly, it's effectiveness can largely be diminished. It's like others have said, it's catching it in time. With the Dolphins, Pennington, Brown and Williams will all be in the huddle together, but we won't know if they're lining up in an I-back set, single back set, or Wildcat until someone steps behind the center. That is the problem, the D must make a split second adjustment. If Pat White is on the field, the Dolphins will be tipping their hand much more; however, I can see them putting White on the field multiple snaps as a distraction and running a regular fomation to keep defenses guessing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DearbornDolfan Posted September 9, 2009 Share Posted September 9, 2009 If they are lined up as a WR, then they aren't a QB.Formations don't dictate position. In the Wildcat formation, at least the base formation, the QB is indeed split out wide. Theoretically, Jake Long could run a route from where he's lined up, because he's uncovered and checks in as an eligible receiver. Doesn't make him a TE, he's still a tackle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DearbornDolfan Posted September 9, 2009 Share Posted September 9, 2009 If the QB is out as a WR or throwing a block out of the RB position, he's fair game.Leveling a player who is not in the play is 15 yards every time, especially if they make no move to defend themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Statick Posted September 9, 2009 Share Posted September 9, 2009 Leveling a player who is not in the play is 15 yards every time, especially if they make no move to defend themselves.BS. In the Wildcat, the primary motion is an attempt to run the ball. If the QB makes a motion as if he's going to block for it, he's in play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
War Damn Eagle Posted September 9, 2009 Share Posted September 9, 2009 For those of you who don't know, the "Wildcat" was created by one Chief Fullbackplayingquarterback, a Cherokee Indian who fathered the mother of one Timothy Tebow in an attempt to bring the Indian Nation into the NFL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DearbornDolfan Posted September 9, 2009 Share Posted September 9, 2009 BuddyBall - Take the 15 yards if you can knock him out of the game, especially early.Leaving aside the fact that Buddy Ryan is a complete scumbag as a coach and human being, you have a point in general. Most teams don't have anybody behind the starting QB that can carry the torch as effectively. Against Miami? Congratulations, you've just bought yourself a one way ticket to a wide open spread attack you aren't prepared for because Pat White and/or Chad Henne have a bigger gun and better wheels than Pennington does.Not real smart in general and especially not for Atlanta, whose defense in general (and pass defense especially) hasn't looked all that hot thus far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peyton Posted September 9, 2009 Share Posted September 9, 2009 Leaving aside the fact that Buddy Ryan is a complete scumbag as a coach and human being, you have a point in general. Most teams don't have anybody behind the starting QB that can carry the torch as effectively. Against Miami? Congratulations, you've just bought yourself a one way ticket to a wide open spread attack you aren't prepared for because Pat White and/or Chad Henne have a bigger gun and better wheels than Pennington does.Not real smart in general and especially not for Atlanta, whose defense in general (and pass defense especially) hasn't looked all that hot thus far.If Pat White started the game, the Falcons would shut out the Dolphins. He is nowhere near ready. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DearbornDolfan Posted September 9, 2009 Share Posted September 9, 2009 BS. In the Wildcat, the primary motion is an attempt to run the ball. If the QB makes a motion as if he's going to block for it, he's in play.Yes, but Pennington almost never does. And who's going to do it, anyway? A corner? Get real, I've seen Pennington level 250 pound outside linebackers, so I wish any corner that tries it good luck and a happy time in the ice bath after the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sun Tzu 7 Posted September 9, 2009 Share Posted September 9, 2009 No, it's not. Leaving aside the fact that you can't hit a QB if they aren't involved in a play, it's an automatic 15 yards anyway for unnecessary roughness. Learn the rules before you opine on something, please.I know the rules. What you don't realize is that we ran versions of the 'Wildcat' when Vick was the starting QB.... so we're more familiar with the rules about hitting the QB if he's lined up as a WR.For example we actually ran ONE play where Vick lined up as a WR and threw it in his direction.... we only ran it once because he can't catch and took a HUGE hit on the play.And we also learned that gimmick plays like the Wildcat will work for only so long before defenses think of new ways to shut it down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shiney_McShine Posted September 9, 2009 Share Posted September 9, 2009 I'm waiting for the return of the run and shoot! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DearbornDolfan Posted September 9, 2009 Share Posted September 9, 2009 If Pat White started the game, the Falcons would shut out the Dolphins. He is nowhere near ready.Oh? And how is it you know how ready Pat White is or isn't? He looked fine to me during pre-season and if we're taking pre-season as a serious indicator of readiness then I'm more worried about your defense being humiliated by Ginn, Camarillo, and Bess than I am about Pat White having a poor showing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peyton Posted September 9, 2009 Share Posted September 9, 2009 I'm waiting for the return of the run and shoot!That was a great offense. It allowed a team to set records like having 4 guys gain 1000 yards from scrimmage. Important records like that which indicates a dominant offense.Oh wait...the Falcons finished 11th in the league in points that year and 10th in yards. Nevermind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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