{=Mojo-Risin=} 18 Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 Globalisation that is dually enabled by a free economy. You say exploit, I see trade. Trade with countries that would otherwise have nothing to trade with.Then you aren't aware of our Globalization efforts either. The first method is to try and convince them join our side. If they refuse, create an internal removal of power. If that doesn't work, military action. That is why Military innovation is so mandatory in maximizing globalization success. Without the threat of force, there is no way to gain control.We go to war with leaders we cannot control to institute a regime change and place a more submissive leader at the head so we can buy their resources and sell them back to 'em for a profit. It's description is typically reduced to "spreading of freedom." It's Nationalistic in a way. -_- Quote Link to post Share on other sites
redswingline 30 Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 Imagine there's no heavenIt's easy if you tryNo **** below usAbove us only skyImagine all the peopleLiving for today... Imagine there's no countriesIt isn't hard to doNothing to kill or die forAnd no religion tooImagine all the peopleLiving life in peace... You may say I'm a dreamerBut I'm not the only oneI hope someday you'll join usAnd the world will be as one Imagine no possessionsI wonder if you canNo need for greed or hungerA brotherhood of manImagine all the peopleSharing all the world... You may say I'm a dreamerBut I'm not the only oneI hope someday you'll join usAnd the world will live as one Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KamiKazee27 1,145 Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 Then you aren't aware of our Globalization efforts either. The first method is to try and convince them join our side. If they refuse, create an internal removal of power. If that doesn't work, military action. That is why Military innovation is so mandatory in maximizing globalization success. Without the threat of force, there is no way to gain control.We go to war with leaders we cannot control to institute a regime change and place a more submissive leader at the head so we can buy their resources and sell them back to 'em for a profit. It's description is typically reduced to "spreading of freedom." It's Nationalistic in a way. -_-Maybe so, but what you just described really doesn't have anything to do with capitalism nor is the U.S. gov the only one to do these things. (Actually all of this is completely unconstitutional.) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ATL Bear 390 Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 Um...how you you say the "majority killed the mass portions?" Isn't that sort of a contradiction? But surely it's ok to do it with natives, isn't it?Or just fine and dandy when ignoring a growing epidemic of starvation and poverty?I actually don't support murder of the minority. And many other Marxists don't either. And if you ever meet one in real life, see what they think of Stalin. Then actually listen without fear of being ego slapped on a messageboard. Stalin was a counter-revolutionary. That alone is a rejection of Marxism! But here I go repeating myself because you keep ******* ignoring what I've already shown. Have fun. I'm through spinning in circles for you guys. I never really expected a large supply of football fans to really discuss it to the core anyways. I'll enjoy posting pictures and being a smart a##. Cya. First, learn the difference between a majority and a mass of something. Given the fact that the individuals I referenced killed multiple millions of people, that would be considered a "mass killing", "mass genocide" or however you wish to label it. Second, stop the strawmen. Finally, your coffeehouse brethren can wax philosophical about the benefits of Marxism, and parse history to your own definition to cover the ills of this economic and political system, but in the real world, with real application, attempted multiple times, it is at it's essence a tyrannical system that undermines the individual and requires suppression of the minority to enforce the collective will. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
{=Mojo-Risin=} 18 Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 "Coffeehouse brethren." I love it."A tyrannical system" "yeah, hey guys, we won't have any state but yeah, we'll have a tyrant."genius!Oh wait, that's your Stalin basis once again.I see the effort to continue in circles is still in force.Read Marxism before you keep that stupid claim going that it has been tried multiple times. Pay close attention to where Stalin's actions are not the essence of it.Or continue your misconception of it to maintain the status quo. Either way, I don't give a sh#t. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
eliyahu ha navi 0 Posted September 12, 2009 Share Posted September 12, 2009 Read Marxism before you keep that stupid claim going that it has been tried multiple times. Pay close attention to where Stalin's actions are not the essence of it.But the essence of it, as witnessed in the Red Terror and Kronstadt, is perfectly moral and non-oppressive! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
{=Mojo-Risin=} 18 Posted September 12, 2009 Share Posted September 12, 2009 Sounds like a revolutionary civil war much like our own. Oh, but let's not talk about that. -_- Quote Link to post Share on other sites
eliyahu ha navi 0 Posted September 12, 2009 Share Posted September 12, 2009 Sounds like a revolutionary civil war much like our own. Oh, but let's not talk about that. -_-Yeah, the two are exactly alike... Remember when General Washington executed a few hundred thousand loyalists, bankrupted the country, and then killed all the minutemen... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
{=Mojo-Risin=} 18 Posted September 12, 2009 Share Posted September 12, 2009 Yeah, the two are exactly alike... Remember when General Washington executed a few hundred thousand loyalists, bankrupted the country, and then killed all the minutemen...Excuse me, I was referring to our most recent civil war if you want to stay up to date in what I'm posting. Count the death toll for innocent peasants. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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