GritsPittz Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 There are still basically the same amount of troops in Iraq, and just as much money being wasted over there. Obama and congress so far have been sticking to Bush's Iraq "withdraw" plan. Was hoping they'd get out faster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbish68 Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 Probably because most of the people who oppose the war effort belong to the party that won the last election, so they don't want to criticize their own team. The two party system in America has got to go if we ever want to see some real change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awesome Possum Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 Probably because most of the people who oppose the war effort belong to the party that won the last election, so they don't want to criticize their own team. The two party system in America has got to go if we ever want to see some real change.basically this. they like obama too much to look at his weak points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
=abrahamburger= Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 Probably because most of the people who oppose the war effort belong to the party that won the last election, so they don't want to criticize their own team. The two party system in America has got to go if we ever want to see some real change.I want to see more of this opinion since it is the right one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Summerbunny Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 There are still basically the same amount of troops in Iraq, and just as much money being wasted over there. Obama and congress so far have been sticking to Bush's Iraq "withdraw" plan. Was hoping they'd get out faster.I think because you don't have time to protest when you are worried about having a job next week! The war is over there, unemployment and layoffs is RIGHT HERE! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
womfalcs3 Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 It's not just the US protests. International protests have stopped too.It's because all combat operations have ended. Obama has already begun the transition process to end the presence there.All US troops are out of the cities. They're all there to ease the transition. US troops will steadily leave Iraq over the next year or two, and will only be there for support and counsel when/if needed.You can't end a war over night... especially a war carried out with the incompetence we saw in Iraq. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
achilles return Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 It's not just the US protests. International protests have stopped too.It's because all combat operations have ended. Obama has already begun the transition process to end the presence there.All US troops are out of the cities. They're all there to ease the transition. US troops will steadily leave Iraq over the next year or two, and will only be there for support and counsel when/if needed.You can't end a war over night... especially a war carried out with the incompetence we saw in Iraq.lmao what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tootie Quivers Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 People love to be emotional about things. First it's the war, then the election, then it's the bailouts, now it's healthcare. The problem with the American public is that we are too stupid to focus on more then one thing at a time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GritsPittz Posted September 4, 2009 Author Share Posted September 4, 2009 I think because you don't have time to protest when you are worried about having a job next week! The war is over there, unemployment and layoffs is RIGHT HERE!BS, there are still protests going on over healthcare and other things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GritsPittz Posted September 4, 2009 Author Share Posted September 4, 2009 It's not just the US protests. International protests have stopped too.It's because all combat operations have ended. Obama has already begun the transition process to end the presence there.All US troops are out of the cities. They're all there to ease the transition. US troops will steadily leave Iraq over the next year or two, and will only be there for support and counsel when/if needed.You can't end a war over night... especially a war carried out with the incompetence we saw in Iraq.Isn't that what Bush was saying? That's the same as Bush's "withdraw" plan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lightmare Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 No trolling and I'm not going to argue back with you so don't waste your energy, but many are afraid to say anything towards the current President in fear of being called racist. When a president is promoted like a Hollywood celebrity, you're going to have issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcons Ace Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 Partisan hackery and the media sheep are busy elsewhere.2001-2008Self Proclaimed Republicans or Conservatives: Country is great, President is great, complain and you hate America and blame the liberalsSelf Proclaimed Democrats or Liberals: Country is a wreck, President is ********/evil, this country is ruined, blame the conservatives2009-TodaySelf Proclaimed Republicans or Conservatives: Country is terrible, President is socialist/evil, country is a wreck, blame the liberalsSelf Proclaimed Democrats or Liberals: Country is doing good, President is great, complain and you hate America, blame the conservatives Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xfistfulofhatex Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 I think its because Iraq is realativly calm compared to how it was in the past and Afghanistan isn't never was viewed with same negativity as IraqI don't think its a partisan issue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
womfalcs3 Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 Isn't that what Bush was saying? That's the same as Bush's "withdraw" plan.Bush didn't have any withdrawl plans. In fact, it was McCain who suggested that US troops remain in Iraq for 100 years during the campaign. The only candidates who pushed for withdrawl were Obama and Clinton. So up until November, both sides were still debating whether to withdraw or not.Not too long ago in the summer, US troops vacated Iraqi cities, and their combat operations have ended.http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/01/world/mi...ast/01iraq.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xfistfulofhatex Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 Bush didn't have any withdrawl plans. In fact, it was McCain who suggested that US troops remain in Iraq for 100 years during the campaign. The only candidates who pushed for withdrawl were Obama and Clinton. So up until November, both sides were still debating whether to withdraw or not.Not too long ago in the summer, US troops vacated Iraqi cities, and their combat operations have ended.Bush began withdrawing the troops before he left officeand you are warping what Mccain said. He had a withdraw plan but like it or not there will be an american pressence in Iraq for a long timeI.E. Korea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcons Ace Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 Bush began withdrawing troops at the end of July last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
womfalcs3 Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 Taking out the troops added during the surge doesn't equate to a plan to withdraw all troops from Iraq and end the war.Bush had no policy in place to end the war.No permanent bases will remain in Iraq. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WoTFan Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 Obama has an exit plan. Which is what everyone wanted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WoTFan Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 Because the job is not done yet... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
backnblack Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 Taking out the troops added during the surge doesn't equate to a plan to withdraw all troops from Iraq and end the war.Bush had no policy in place to end the war.No permanent bases will remain in Iraq.I find this hard to believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nativefalcon Posted September 5, 2009 Share Posted September 5, 2009 There are still basically the same amount of troops in Iraq, and just as much money being wasted over there. Obama and congress so far have been sticking to Bush's Iraq "withdraw" plan. Was hoping they'd get out faster.they got bored. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcon Fanatic Posted September 5, 2009 Share Posted September 5, 2009 Probably because most of the people who oppose the war effort belong to the party that won the last election, so they don't want to criticize their own team. The two party system in America has got to go if we ever want to see some real change.Absolutely. Best post I have read in months. Thumbs up cbish68. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerhead Posted September 5, 2009 Share Posted September 5, 2009 The U.S. military says two American service members have been killed and three others wounded in a bomb blast in eastern Afghanistan.The military says the troops died Tuesday after their convoy struck a roadside bomb. No other details will be provided until families can be notified.The latest deaths bring to 26 the number of U.S. troops killed in Afghanistan in August. 08/29/09 AFP: 12 killed, over 40 wounded in northern Iraq attacks ... While Barack Obama owes his election to the presidency in large part to the deep-going antiwar sentiments in the American population, the move by his administration to escalate US militarism and increase the number of American troops sent into battle enjoys the support of America’s ruling elite and both of its major parties.The consensus behind the continuation and escalation of the US wars of aggression found unmistakable expression in the approval by an overwhelming 86-3 vote in the US Senate of more than $91 billion to continue funding the two wars through September.The US military plans to send thousands of American soldiers back to the oil-rich north of Iraq to prevent a civil war between Arabs and Kurds. The emergency move, which partially reverses a recent drawing- down, is the first major sign that President Obama's withdrawal plan may not work. We are not getting out of Iraq until the Iraqis throw us out. This is inevitable, just as it was in Vietnam. In the meantime, people will die and treasure will be squandered. And when the great one obama eventually goes on nationwide tv, flashes what amounts to a sh*t-eating grin and tells everyone, ooops, sorry, we gotta stay another hundred years, who, in their right or left mind will be surprised? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Self Made Soul Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 The left has no problem with war and its casualties when the President has a (D) after his name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
{=Mojo-Risin=} Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 The left has no problem with war and its casualties when the President has a (D) after his name.Or when they know that the D President plans on withdrawing some time soon.But since we want to play the assumption game. Let me ask this:Why are so many ( R ) "Anti-spending people" so happy to spend billions upon billions in other countries? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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