iDash Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 http://www.forbes.com/2009/09/02/nfl-pro-f...9-nfl_land.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David TTU Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 That number will increase dramatically over the next 7-10 years....our stadium though certainly holds us back. But we'll get a new one just like Peyton got one for the Indy fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconinPA Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 Man,that Raiders franchise is really in the crapper. The least valuable of all 32 teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audit the Dirty Fed Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 http://www.forbes.com/2009/09/02/nfl-pro-f...9-nfl_land.htmlYour signature is really depressing. I don't want to see our 1st round pick on the floor like that. :mellow: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
innovativefx Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 Wow - I thought we were closer to the middle of the pack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sun Tzu 7 Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 That number will increase dramatically over the next 7-10 years....our stadium though certainly holds us back. But we'll get a new one just like Peyton got one for the Indy fans.The downside of this is new stadium means more expensive tickets.... and probably seat licenses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muskokas finest © Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 You know what they say about the city of Atlanta and their sports Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phattywankenobi Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 I think I just felt the price of a hotdog go up to $10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconinPA Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 Wow - I thought we were closer to the middle of the pack.I really did too. It is kinda depressing to think that we are less valuable than the Lions and The Rams. But I think the franchise is headed in the right direction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audit the Dirty Fed Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 How much money would one need to wave in front of Blank to buy into the team? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Statick Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 How much money would one need to wave in front of Blank to buy into the team?Let's see...It's takes around $500,000 to 1.5 mill to buy into a McDonald's franchise, so I would say more than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tandy Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 We won't move much higher until the bond is paid off on the stadium. Right now a large percentage of revenues at the stadium goes to the city to pay off the bond. That's why the value is much lower. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlacksburgHokie Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 Some teams own their stadiums and thus get revenue from other events that are held there. We, on the other hand, just use the stadium so get no revenue from other events that are held there.That's the fundamental difference between the high and low teams on that list... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncja Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 How much money would one need to wave in front of Blank to buy into the team?Im wanting to say in early 2000's it was $5 mil per percent. Joe Gibb's hat 5% ownership, and had to sell it so he could coach the Redskins again, and I believe it was for 25mil. This is off memory though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterC Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 Wow...well the Falcons actually moved up a spot because if I can remember correctly, Minnesota was #32 and Atlanta was #31 at one point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audit the Dirty Fed Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 Im wanting to say in early 2000's it was $5 mil per percent. Joe Gibb's hat 5% ownership, and had to sell it so he could coach the Redskins again, and I believe it was for 25mil. This is off memory though.If that's still the rate, that isn't too bad. Based on the value now, it would be closer to 80M per 1%. Now worth it. I'll spend my 80M elsewhere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncja Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 If that's still the rate, that isn't too bad. Based on the value now, it would be closer to 80M per 1%. Now worth it. I'll spend my 80M elsewhere You mean 8 mil per 1%, if the team is worth 800 mil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KANE337 Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 Wow - I thought we were closer to the middle of the pack.Nah, the Falcons have been hovering around 28-30 for several years. Their stadium deal blows in terms of bringing in revenue for the league since it's owned by the state of Georgia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
headhunter3000 Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 I really did too. It is kinda depressing to think that we are less valuable than the Lions and The Rams. But I think the franchise is headed in the right direction.I don't think it is the stadium, I think that it has alot to do with a school up the road that holds 98,000 and another one down the street but I don't know what they hold Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucman™® Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 Tampa in the top ten... I dig it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audit the Dirty Fed Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 You mean 8 mil per 1%, if the team is worth 800 mil.Right. you got me. Either way, I'll spend my $8M elsewhere. Or many I'll take the $80M and buy 10% lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duff_Man Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 I think I just felt the price of a hotdog go up to $10. Ooooooh...what's his name? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevykev21 Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 Bump for Banker.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratesforless Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 Nah, the Falcons have been hovering around 28-30 for several years. Their stadium deal blows in terms of bringing in revenue for the league since it's owned by the state of Georgia.DING, DING, DING, we have a winner.....Until the debt service is paid off on those bonds used to build the Dome, the Falcons will stay in that 28-30 range. Back in 1988, Rankin Sr. signed off on receiving $4M annually from the GWCC in lieu of revenue from the club seats and luxury boxes. It looked like a good deal back then because little terms like 'revenue streams' and 'unrestricted free agency' were foreign languages in the league. But when everyone and their grandmothers built new stadiums or refurbed their old ones and given sweetheart deals which included keeping the $$$ from the suits and club seats, the Falcons were left in the dust.Hmmm, 8-10,000 club seats going for $2-3k a pop per year plus over 250 suits which were sold for $10-100k a year; you do the math on how much $$$ the Falcons missed out on because of Rankin's short-sightedness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texasbirdfan Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 team Value1$856 milArthur BlankAtlanta Falconsare owned by Arthur Blank (Net Worth: $1.2 billion),who bought them in 2002for $545 mil.Player-costs-to-win ratio8 128Coach Mike SmithMetro area population: 5,376,000Revenue per fan: $17Sport: Portion of franchise's value attributable to revenue shared among all teams. Market: Portion of franchise's value attributable to its city and market size. Stadium: Portion of franchise's value attributable to its stadium. Brand Management: Portion of franchise's value attributable to the management of its brand.The skinnyLed by rookie QB Matt Ryan the Falcons took the league by surprise last season, posting an 11-5 record and qualifying for the post-season. But that was not enough to overcome the loss of home town favorite Michael Vick and the recession. The Falcons drew just over 500,000 fans to the Georgia Dome last year — down 6% from 2007 — ranking 25th in the NFL overall. Also, Delta Air Lines, one of the team's bigger sponsors, decided not to renew its contract this March. Given this backdrop, it is easy to understand why owner Arthur Blank sold a small piece of the team to four investors in July. Blank's franchise has maxed out its valuation at the Georgia Dome and his chances of getting a new stadium are close to zero.Major corporate sponsors are Anheuser-Busch, Home Depot (nyse: HD), Coca-Cola (nyse: KO), Verizon Wireless, Georgia Power (nyse: GAT).Media PartnersPreseason TV: WXIARadio: 92.9 Dave FMNational TV ratings:9 19.5Historical Snapshot Dates are when valuations were published; figures for most recently completed season.1-Yr Value Chg. -2%Ann. Value Chg.2 7%Debt/Value3 32%Revenue4 $214 milOperating Income5 $28.2 milPlayer Expenses6 $129 milGate Receipts7 $45 milFacility InformationGeorgia DomeOwner: State of GeorgiaYear Opened: 1992Capacity: 71,228Cost To Build: $210 milConcessionaire: Levy RestaurantsAverage Ticket Price: $64Revenue and operating income are for 2008 season and net of revenue sharing and stadium debt service.1Value of team based on current stadium deal (unless new stadium is pending) without deduction for debt (other than stadium debt).2Current team value compared with latest transaction price.3Includes stadium debt.4Net of stadium revenues used for debt payments.5Earnings before interest, taxes, depreciation and amortization.6Includes benefits and bonuses.7Includes club seats.8Compares the number of wins per player payroll relative to the rest of the NFL. Postseason wins count twice as much as regular season wins. A score of 120 means that the team achieved 20% more victories per dollar of payroll compared with the league average.9Average 2008 rating in local market for regular season games from Nielsen.NA: Not applicable.Team Logos Courtesy NFL.Photos: Mike Zarrilli/Getty Images; Kevin Cox/Getty Images; Getty Images * Rank * Team * Current Value * 1-Yr Value Change * Debt/Value * Revenue * Operating Income Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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