what's funny about st. louis's drafting of tye hill

[Dominique is Manufique]

15 St. Louis Rams (from Atlanta Falcons via Denver) Tye Hill Cornerback Clemson

here is a description of the transaction from the 2006 NFL Draft on WIKI...

LINK

[sumslap]

fun fact hahahahah see it was inevitable

[Scorpion]

lol thats pretty interesting...

[Peyton]

Think that was a 3 way trade that netted the Falcons Abraham.

[MattyIce07]

15 St. Louis Rams (from Atlanta Falcons via Denver) Tye Hill Cornerback Clemson

here is a description of the transaction from the 2006 NFL Draft on WIKI...

LINK

Haha wow that's crazy!

Think that was a 3 way trade that netted the Falcons Abraham.

Yeah you're right. This was the Abraham trade.

[1989Fan]

to think, McKay would have taken Jimmy Williams there.

[Dominique is Manufique]

Think that was a 3 way trade that netted the Falcons Abraham.

yes that is why we had no 1st rounder in 06. when we THOUGHT jimmy williams was like getting a 1st rounder. sheeesh.

although i believe our trade to the jets was just between NY and ATL and the jets made some draft day moves with the broncos...

[KANE337]

Think that was a 3 way trade that netted the Falcons Abraham.

Abraham was traded to the Falcons in exchange for Atlanta's 2006 NFL Draft first round pick (No. 29), which was acquired from Denver Broncos. I think then the Bronco's swapped picks with the Jets.

The Bronco's must have made a trade with the Rams on draft day because they got Jay Cutler that year.

[Dominique is Manufique]

Abraham was traded to the Falcons in exchange for Atlanta's 2006 NFL Draft first round pick (No. 29), which was acquired from Denver Broncos. Did we have 2 first round picks that year?

no we had no 1st round pick. our first pick was jimmy williams who was a supposed huge steal by mr. mckay.

the jets and bronocs swapped first rounders. had ATL kept it's first round pick they would've picked 15th based on how they finished the 2005 season at 8-8.

[1989Fan]

Abraham was traded to the Falcons in exchange for Atlanta's 2006 NFL Draft first round pick (No. 29), which was acquired from Denver Broncos. Did we have 2 first round picks that year?

no. we traded our first to DEN for their first, 3rd and 4th picks I think. Then traded the DEN 1sr for Abraham, because SEA was being idiots and messing up our deal after we agreed to send our 2nd to NYJ for him.

[MattyIce07]

Abraham was traded to the Falcons in exchange for Atlanta's 2006 NFL Draft first round pick (No. 29), which was acquired from Denver Broncos. I think then the Bronco's swapped picks with the Jets.

Atlanta sent the 15th pick overall to Denver for the No. 29 overall. The Falcons also picked up a pair of middle-round choices in the transaction, a third-round selection in 2006 and a fourth-rounder in 2007. The Falcons then shipped the 29th pick acquired from Denver to the Jets in exchange for Abraham.

[KANE337]

Atlanta sent the 15th pick overall to Denver for the No. 29 overall. The Falcons also picked up a pair of middle-round choices in the transaction, a third-round selection in 2006 and a fourth-rounder in 2007. The Falcons then shipped the 29th pick acquired from Denver to the Jets in exchange for Abraham.

Yep that's it.

Denver must have traded that #15 pick to the Rams to move up to get Jay Cutler.

[Evo]

The more i read into this pick, the more of a Genius, TD become to me lol

[Finally]

We dodged a bullet there. I wonder whose threads would have gotten more posts. JA98 is a bust or TH24 is a bust?

[bossFALCON™]

didn't we trade for lelie as well that year? i thought he was going to eventually become our legit #1.

[Knight of God]

I remember being upset that we made that trade because I was having dreams of a Hall/Hill combo. Man am I glad. We got Abe and Hill and dumped the dead weight.

I really was okay in the end because we got Williams. LOL!!!

[Pa_Falcon_Fan]

Check this out... It is crazy how one trade has such far reaching impact on the league 3 years later.

We traded our 1st (15th overall) to Denver for their 1st, 3rd in 2006 and a 4th in 2007. We then traded Denver's 1st to the Jets for Abraham. The end result 3 years later:

Atlanta:

John Abraham

Jimmy Williams - 2nd rounder in 06 -Traded 15th in 2nd round, Denver's 3rd and the 15th pick in the 3rd round to Green Bay for 5th pick in the 2nd round (Jimmy Williams) and the 6th pick in the 5th round. Williams was obviously a bad move in hindsight.

Quinn Ojinnaka - 6th rounder in 06 - Pick came from Green Bay after trading away 3rd rounders to move up in the 2nd round for JW.

Chris Houston - 4th rounder in 07 - Used to trade up in 2007 to get Houston

Tye Hill - 7th rounder in 2010 - We essentially get our 15th overall pick back 3 years later.

Denver:

Jay Cutler - They traded Atlanta's 15th overall pick (part of the Abraham trade) and a 3rd rounder to the Rams for the 11th overall pick. Cutler of course is now in Chicago which means the impact of the Abraham trade continues with the

Ingle Martin - Drafted by Green Bay with the 5th rounder from the Abraham trade.

Marcus Thomas - Drafted using the 2007 4th round pick from the Rams deal that resulted from the Abraham picks.

Jets:

Nick Mangold - 29th overall pick in 2006

Rams:

Claude Wroten - Taken with Denver's 3rd rounder out of the deal for the 15th. He is currently suspended for the season by the NFL for repeated violations of the league's substance abuse policy.

Dominique Byrd - Was the result of Green Bay trading away the

Green Bay:

Daryn Colledge - Packers starting guard taken with Falcons's 2nd round pick that was part of the Jimmy Williams trade.

Cardinals:

Dominique Byrd - Drafted by the Rams via a trade of one of the Falcons picks from the Jimmy Williams deal.

Vikings

Sidney Rice - Taken with the 2nd round pick that was part of the Houston deal, which was the result of using picks from Denver from the Abraham deal.

That is the stuff that is a direct result of the trade. There are a variety of other players and trades that branch off beyond that.

[BlacksburgHokie]

Atlanta got JA55, 3rd round pick in '06 which was traded along with the 15th pick in the 2nd round and the 15th pick in the 3rd round to Green Bay for the 5th pick in the 2nd round and 6th pick in the 5th round (Quinn Ojinnaka and Jimmy Williams for Ingle Martin, Daryn Colledge and Dominique Byrd, who was then traded to St. Louis for a 4th and a 6th (Jason Avant-traded to PHI for a 4th and 6th (Will Blackmon and Tyrone Culver) and Johnny Jolly) , 4th round pick in '07 (Traded with our 2nd round pick to MIN to move up 3 spots to get Chris Houston instead of Sidney Rice, which MIN then flips back to Denver for a 6th, 7th and a '08 3rd (Rufus Alexander, Chandler Williams and DaJuan Morgan (later used as part of the Jared Allen trade with MIN's 1st (traded with DET for Branden Albert/Gosder Cherilus swap along with swapping 3rd and 5th's) and 3rd (Jamaal Charles) and a swap of 5th rounders) for Marcus Thomas)

Jets got the 29th pick Nick Mangold

Denver got the 15th Pick, which they passed on to St. Louis along with the 4th pick in the 3rd round for the 11th pick in the draft (Jay Cutler for Claude Wroten (out of the league after substance abuse problems) and Tye Hill)

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Sort of cool that something we did back in '06 lingered for 3 years and set off a number of trades involving half of the teams in the league...

[Dominique is Manufique]

Atlanta got JA55, 3rd round pick in '06 which was traded along with the 15th pick in the 2nd round and the 15th pick in the 3rd round to Green Bay for the 5th pick in the 2nd round and 6th pick in the 5th round (Quinn Ojinnaka and Jimmy Williams for Ingle Martin, Daryn Colledge and Dominique Byrd, who was then traded to St. Louis for a 4th and a 6th (Jason Avant-traded to PHI for a 4th and 6th (Will Blackmon and Tyrone Culver) and Johnny Jolly) , 4th round pick in '07 (Traded with our 2nd round pick to MIN to move up 3 spots to get Chris Houston instead of Sidney Rice, which MIN then flips back to Denver for a 6th, 7th and a '08 3rd (Rufus Alexander, Chandler Williams and DaJuan Morgan (later used as part of the Jared Allen trade with MIN's 1st (traded with DET for Branden Albert/Gosder Cherilus swap along with swapping 3rd and 5th's) and 3rd (Jamaal Charles) and a swap of 5th rounders) for Marcus Thomas)

Jets got the 29th pick Nick Mangold

Denver got the 15th Pick, which they passed on to St. Louis along with the 4th pick in the 3rd round for the 11th pick in the draft (Jay Cutler for Claude Wroten (out of the league after substance abuse problems) and Tye Hill)

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Sort of cool that something we did back in '06 lingered for 3 years and set off a number of trades involving half of the teams in the league...

yikes that is a mouthul...

[JKH5785]

and we still ended up with sorry Jimmy Williams. WHAT A JOKE HE TURNED OUT TO BE.

[Pa_Falcon_Fan]

and we still ended up with sorry Jimmy Williams. WHAT A JOKE HE TURNED OUT TO BE.

Williams was a joke. He thought he'd made it in the NFL because he got drafted... so he never felt like putting in the effort to actually become a good player. It wasn't for lack of talent, it was lack of motivation which is just plain sad.

If Chandler Williams makes the roster that makes another player on the Falcons who was a player selected with one of the picks related to the Abraham trade.

[DaMeatTroughsEgo]

Check this out... It is crazy how one trade has such far reaching impact on the league 3 years later.

We traded our 1st (15th overall) to Denver for their 1st, 3rd in 2006 and a 4th in 2007. We then traded Denver's 1st to the Jets for Abraham. The end result 3 years later:

Atlanta:

John Abraham

Jimmy Williams - 2nd rounder in 06 -Traded 15th in 2nd round, Denver's 3rd and the 15th pick in the 3rd round to Green Bay for 5th pick in the 2nd round (Jimmy Williams) and the 6th pick in the 5th round. Williams was obviously a bad move in hindsight.

Quinn Ojinnaka - 6th rounder in 06 - Pick came from Green Bay after trading away 3rd rounders to move up in the 2nd round for JW.

Chris Houston - 4th rounder in 07 - Used to trade up in 2007 to get Houston

Tye Hill - 7th rounder in 2010 - We essentially get our 15th overall pick back 3 years later.

Denver:

Jay Cutler - They traded Atlanta's 15th overall pick (part of the Abraham trade) and a 3rd rounder to the Rams for the 11th overall pick. Cutler of course is now in Chicago which means the impact of the Abraham trade continues with the

Ingle Martin - Drafted by Green Bay with the 5th rounder from the Abraham trade.

Marcus Thomas - Drafted using the 2007 4th round pick from the Rams deal that resulted from the Abraham picks.

Jets:

Nick Mangold - 29th overall pick in 2006

Rams:

Claude Wroten - Taken with Denver's 3rd rounder out of the deal for the 15th. He is currently suspended for the season by the NFL for repeated violations of the league's substance abuse policy.

Dominique Byrd - Was the result of Green Bay trading away the

Green Bay:

Daryn Colledge - Packers starting guard taken with Falcons's 2nd round pick that was part of the Jimmy Williams trade.

Cardinals:

Dominique Byrd - Drafted by the Rams via a trade of one of the Falcons picks from the Jimmy Williams deal.

Vikings

Sidney Rice - Taken with the 2nd round pick that was part of the Houston deal, which was the result of using picks from Denver from the Abraham deal.

That is the stuff that is a direct result of the trade. There are a variety of other players and trades that branch off beyond that.

Excellent post. It's amazing how one little trade can shake up so much.

[cwell1]

Abraham was traded to the Falcons in exchange for Atlanta's 2006 NFL Draft first round pick (No. 29), which was acquired from Denver Broncos. I think then the Bronco's swapped picks with the Jets.

The Bronco's must have made a trade with the Rams on draft day because they got Jay Cutler that year.

yeah we first traded down with Denver to get their 29th pick plus some other picks, we traded that 29th pick to get Abraham. The Rams had the 11th pick (back then people thought we could get Michael Huff at 15 but it was said no way he makes it past 11 to the Rams.) Draft day Denver traded up with St. Louis from 15 to get Cutler ( prolly cuz Oakland snagged Huff at 7) and St. Louis took Tye at 15 with our pick. I was upset because I wanted us to draft Tye since he was family and when I found out he ended up getting picked with our pick I was pissed lol

[cwell1]

Williams was a joke. He thought he'd made it in the NFL because he got drafted... so he never felt like putting in the effort to actually become a good player. It wasn't for lack of talent, it was lack of motivation which is just plain sad.

If Chandler Williams makes the roster that makes another player on the Falcons who was a player selected with one of the picks related to the Abraham trade.

the only time he really put in some effort is when he finally got the start at RCB. I think if he stayed at CB his career would have turned out different. He worked to get down from almost 220 pounds to 208 lbs. to be quicker at the corner. When ever he got to play at CB he usually looked good. he wasd done when he got moved to safety

[Pa_Falcon_Fan]

the only time he really put in some effort is when he finally got the start at RCB. I think if he stayed at CB his career would have turned out different. He worked to get down from almost 220 pounds to 208 lbs. to be quicker at the corner. When ever he got to play at CB he usually looked good. he wasd done when he got moved to safety

I remember pointing out right after we moved him to Safety that it was a bad idea to keep moving a young player all over the place. It isn't good for their development. Pick and spot and keep 'em there. Whether it be from dissatisfaction over being moved or not, Williams just let things go far too often and never really put in the effort after the move.