SWIFT HITTER Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 EAST RUTHERFORD, N.J. -- Two-time Pro Bowl defensive end Osi Umenyiora missed practice Monday without giving Giants coach Tom Coughlin an explanation.Umenyiora, who missed all of last season with a knee injury, attended meetings in the morning at the team's headquarters. However, he left unexpectedly without talking to Coughlin and didn't return for the workout. A league source confirmed a Newark Star-Ledger report to ESPN.com's Matt Mosley that Umenyiora skipped practice after getting into a dispute with new defensive coordinator Bill Sheridan. Sheridan, the former linebackers coach who replaced Steve Spagnuolo as coordinator, reportedly criticized Umenyiora for making a mistake in Saturday's game against the Jets.Umenyiora surfaced later in the evening and issued a statement."I made a mistake by leaving the facility today," the statement said. "I was wrong. I came in here this afternoon and met with coach Coughlin, coach Sheridan and coach [Mike] Waufle and apologized and explained why I left the building; that will remain between us. I have no problem with our defensive coordinator Bill Sheridan or any of our coaches. That's the end of it, as far as I am concerned."Earlier Monday, Coughlin had said: "We will have to talk to him when he gets back. Obviously he is not here, so I am concerned."Later Monday night, a source told ESPN's Adam Schefter that Umenyiora had spoken to Coughlin and that he would return to the team on Tuesday. After the defensive end didn't show for practice, New York general manager Jerry Reese sent a text message to Umenyiora to ask him if he was all right. Umenyiora responded that he was, but didn't explain why he left.The absence will be considered unexcused, so Umenyiora likely will be fined."There must have been something of a personal nature, and he left," Coughlin had said before speaking to Umenyiora. "I haven't personally talked to him. He did respond to Jerry, evidently by text. That's all I have. I haven't seen him, so I can't tell you."After missing the last two preseason games with a sore foot, middle linebacker Antonio Pierce returned to practice on Monday.Starting left guard David Diehl did not practice because of soreness in his kneecap. He will not play against the New England Patriots on Thursday in the preseason finale.Also missing practice were safety Kenny Phillips (sore knee), cornerback Aaron Ross (hamstring), halfback Danny Ware (ribs), receiver David Tyree (hamstring) and defensive tackle Chris Canty (hamstring).Backup offensive tackle Guy Whimper, who was filling in for Diehl, had to leave practice with a hip flexor after colliding with halfback Brandon Jacobs. Free agent offensive lineman Andrew Carnahan twisted a knee.Coughlin did not know the extent of their injuries Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Rider Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 I would give them next years #1 and maybe even the #1 the next year for an elite pass rusher like him. Our defense would be set with a pass rush like that from both our DE's. I wouldn't do that for most players but he is very special. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFanatic!!!! Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 I would give a #2 and Anderson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdogg Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 TD need to make it happen. Adding him would hlp our DB's big time. Plus add another low cost vet at CB or Safety and we will be fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
califalcfan Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 Hm. At first I thought that getting him would be a great idea, but I am having 2nd thoughts. He has 'only' had 2 seasons with 10+ sacks and that was with a lot of talent on the defensive line. Also, he might have benefited by a blitz heavy scheme/ because of Spags; Justin Tuck was plugged into DE and put up 10 sacks (he wasn't a scrub beforehand, obviously, but it makes you wonder). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Rider Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 He is worth way more than a #2 and Anderson. The guy is one of the elite pass rushers in the game and was a huge part of that '07 SB season they had. If we had him and JA55 on the outside with Peria and Babs in the middle, this defensive line would be close to that of the giants that year. He's worth ma lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freebird587 Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 aint gonna happen, so drop it......whats with everybody, as soon as theres trouble with a player, all you guys want to sign them......STOP IT....osi aint coming to atl.....this year anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vabchbirdlover Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 Didn't we trade next yrs 2 rounder to KC for Gonzo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWIFT HITTER Posted September 1, 2009 Author Share Posted September 1, 2009 The Giants can trade him to ..because they already got a crowded dline Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Rider Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 Hm. At first I thought that getting him would be a great idea, but I am having 2nd thoughts. He has 'only' had 2 seasons with 10+ sacks and that was with a lot of talent on the defensive line. Also, he might have benefited by a blitz heavy scheme/ because of Spags; Justin Tuck was plugged into DE and put up 10 sacks (he wasn't a scrub beforehand, obviously, but it makes you wonder).He is still young. He hasn't been playing for very long and was arguable better than Strahan. Even Strahan smiled when asked who was better. He smiled, paused, then said he was better than Osi due to experience. Dude is special. Oh, they weren't a blitz happy team either. They got almost all their pressure from their front 4, not blitzes. They played a pretty tech sound style of defense and relied on their front 4 to get pressure which they did. Lots of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris D Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 Not anywhere in that read does it say that he is unhappy being a New York Giant. In fact he said in a quote that he had no problems with the coaches or staff.... It would be awesome to get him in a trade, but unlikely. Especially with the money the office gave Davis in the off season. Then again, who knows, I am a believer that anything can happen when TD is running things. I say go for him, but I wouldn't expend a #1 pick on him. After all, we already have quite a bit of depth on the line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xFalconLord Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 Its a non-issue. He already apologize for leaving and he said he loves all of his coaches. Im pretty sure the G-men are not running off to trade the guy.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWIFT HITTER Posted September 1, 2009 Author Share Posted September 1, 2009 Not anywhere in that read does it say that he is unhappy being a New York Giant. In fact he said in a quote that he had no problems with the coaches or staff.... It would be awesome to get him in a trade, but unlikely. Especially with the money the office gave Davis in the off season. Then again, who knows, I am a believer that anything can happen when TD is running things. I say go for him, but I wouldn't expend a #1 pick on him. After all, we already have quite a bit of depth on the line.Osi Umenyiora has left the Giants' training facility in what Tom Coughlin says is an "unexcused absence." Umenyiora has exchanged some texts with general manager Jerry Reese, who indicated that Umenyiora did not fully explain why he was gone. Sometimes these things revolve around money, and if it is, Umenyiora might not like what he will hear from the team. According to a league source familiar with the Giants' situation, the team is not inclined to address his contract. Umenyiora agreed to an extension through the 2012 season late in the 2005 season. The deal totaled just under $41 million, and included $15 million in guaranteed money. Umenyiora made close to $21 million in the first three years of the deal. Umenyiora is scheduled to make $2.55 million this year, $3.1 million next year, $3.125 million in 2011 and $3.975 in 2012. Umenyiora wanted to get as much up-front money as possible in his deal, and he got that. But now that he is in the part of his contract where the numbers decline, there has been plenty of speculation that he's anxious to renegotiate. Newsday's Tom Rock also cites a source confirming that it's a disagreement with Sheridan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWIFT HITTER Posted September 1, 2009 Author Share Posted September 1, 2009 Its a non-issue. He already apologize for leaving and he said he loves all of his coaches. Im pretty sure the G-men are not running off to trade the guy.. there was serious talks about them trading him to Cleveland for Edwards.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Rider Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 Yea, I never really thought he'd go anywhere. Giants would be insane to trade him but I might have to call them personally and offer 2 #1's then call TD and work it out. lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Rider Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 there was serious talks about them trading him to Cleveland for Edwards..Unless you were in on these talks personally, it was just rumors. lol. Too many rumors to know what is true and what is not to state that as a fact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWIFT HITTER Posted September 1, 2009 Author Share Posted September 1, 2009 Yea, I never really thought he'd go anywhere. Giants would be insane to trade him but I might have to call them personally and offer 2 #1's then call TD and work it out. lol.Giants could easily trade him..they are stacked along the lineTuck, Canty and Kiwunaku Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peyton Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 He just missed an entire season with a knee injury. Most guys are never the same after that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcons Ace Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 He is still young. He hasn't been playing for very long and was arguable better than Strahan. Even Strahan smiled when asked who was better. He smiled, paused, then said he was better than Osi due to experience. Dude is special. Oh, they weren't a blitz happy team either. They got almost all their pressure from their front 4, not blitzes. They played a pretty tech sound style of defense and relied on their front 4 to get pressure which they did. Lots of it.Actually, they are a pretty blitz happy team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Rider Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 Giants could easily trade him..they are stacked along the lineTuck, Canty and KiwunakuHe is way better than all of them. They are deep but he is the best of the best. Normally if you are stacked at a position, you don't trade the best one. You trade the odd man out. The odd man out is probably Canty. Can we at least get him. I'd take any of them. Doesn't have to be Osi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWIFT HITTER Posted September 1, 2009 Author Share Posted September 1, 2009 He is way better than all of them. They are deep but he is the best of the best. Normally if you are stacked at a position, you don't trade the best one. You trade the odd man out. The odd man out is probably Canty. Can we at least get him. I'd take any of them. Doesn't have to be Osi.Canty just signed with them this year for big money.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdogg Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 He is way better than all of them. They are deep but he is the best of the best. Normally if you are stacked at a position, you don't trade the best one. You trade the odd man out. The odd man out is probably Canty. Can we at least get him. I'd take any of them. Doesn't have to be Osi.I agree. ANyone of thm is a huge upgrade over the JA98 BUST!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Rider Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 Canty just signed with them this year for big money..I would have to assume that Tuck is there to stay so what about Kiwunaku? I'd take him over Jamaal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Rider Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 I wouldn't be surprised if TD is watching the waver wire for a DE and if he finds one he likes then he might cut ties with McKay's worst ever pick for us. lol. It could happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muskokas finest © Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 No surprise after some of the big contracts that were given out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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