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Once again, if someone is wearing a FALCONS Vick jersey, they can't be a Falcons fan. You can buy a jersey at Walmart for $10 or just wear a black or red shirt. HeIl, you can buy a Falcons shirt for $10 or the same price for a hat. Skip out on a few beers and the $27 BBQ sandwich at the dome, and you can buy a nice Falcons jersey.

They may not be wearing the jersey because they can't afford another one. If they were huge, huge Vick fans and were hurt by what happened, but sad that he is gone - then maybe that is the only way they can express that feeling.

If they are in Red and Black and cheering for the Falcons - even if it has #7 on the back - that does not mean they are not Falcon fans. I know that we suffered a lot because of the media sensation around what Vick did, and the fact that our team was so reliant on his unique style of play, but that doesn't mean that someone who still supports him is anti-Falcons.

I will never condone what Vick did. I also can't answer why he did it - whether it was just a way of life that he didn't see for what it was or whether it was the pull of his "homeboys" and the fact that he leaned so heavily on them just to get by as a kid. Maybe all the hype and craziness of being so young coming into the NFL and the media attention and adoration made him think he was untouchable. I don't know. I can't read his mind and I can't really understand what he lived through in his life - so I'm not going to judge him. He pleaded guilty and accepted the responsibility. He went to prison - which is something I can't even imagine and don't want to try. He lost his fortune, he was humiliated and picketed and has been torn to shreds in public.

I think no matter what cruelty he has done - if he's truly remorseful and wants to change his life - we should let it go and let him be. He's a human being and an American. In our country - that's what freedom is all about. We have the choices to make and the consequences to pay for our choices. Vick has done both.

Even though I'll never understand what he did or why and even though it makes me sick to my stomache to think about some of the cruel and inhumane acts he pulled against creatures that I personally love and respect - I can not bring myself to be his judge and jury. What happens to him now is up to him - he's going to have a long, difficult journey to get anywhere close to the spot he was in before this mess. He'll be under a microscope and any little transgression is going to be disected in the public eye. I don't think this is a cakewalk for him and I must say - it takes a pretty strong individual to hold their head up and move on with their life after all that he's been through - regardless of the fact that he caused it himself and has no one to blame but himself.

All that aside - Vick was our quarterback for 6 years and he brought excitement to our team that we'd never had before. He captured the hearts and devotion of many, many people and he was adored by lots of kids and adults alike. Including and especially many Falcon fans. In fact, today we have fans we never would have had if Vick had not been on the team. I am talking Falcon fans - who have grown to love the team because they started watching Vick. That's wonderful.

To say that someone should automatically not be a Falcon fan just because they are also still a Vick fan is an opinion you are entitled to have, but it is not a hard fact that can be proven. I cried for days after the whole thing went down. I was crushed and devastated. It took me a long time to get over the hurt I was feeling, but now I am so excited for the future we have. I realize that the Falcons are bigger than one player - bigger than one stinkin' coach and bigger than a year from ****. They have emerged from the ashes like the Phoenix and they are soaring higher than ever.

This is a fantastic time to be a Falcon fan. We have so much to look forward to and so much excitement coming from the TEAM, not just one person. Personally, I've embraced it and let it sweep me away. I don't know where it will lead us - but I'm damned happy to be along for the ride - sporting my team colors. I'm happy to share this excitement and giddyness and passion with all my fellow Falcon fans - regardless of who their individual favorite players not on the Falcons are. I see people in Sanders jerseys - and I was crazy hurt over the way he left and the way he talked about the Falcons. To me, they are Falcons fans who got past it better than me - and I feel the same way about someone in a Vick jersey. They can embrace the Falcons and show their feelings for a past player, too - even if others can't get past it.

Look, too **** many young and old men and women have given their life to make us a free country. I have too much respect for them and too much passion for freedom to try to take that freedom of choice away from anyone else. If you choose to not wear his number - you are free to make that choice. If you want to carry signs in protest against him, you are free to make that choice. If you wish to picket any game he's playing in, or just boycott and not watch any game he's in - that is a choice you are free to make. That freedom does not give you the right to step on anothers freedom to do the same or freedom to express their appreciation for a player you despise.

Ok, so I went off on a tangent - I apologize for that. All I'm really saying is live and let live. Be as passionate as you want to be for your team - but when you judge another person for their own passion or their own choices - as long as they are not intending you or your family personal harm, then you are stepping on their freedom as well as your own.

OK - climbing off my soapbox long enough to say - GO FALCONS!!!!!!!

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Is it open season on them?

You know it's going to happen... I'm not promoting violence in any way shape or form but, doesn't that type of action deserve a reaction?

There will plenty of clowns wearing Vick jerseys running their traps on Dec 6th. Count on it..

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I'm glad you asked. These are former stars that brought bad press to their team. I used them as example to show they aren't even in the same stratosphere as Vick.

Okay stop trying to school me, i know who they are :P You just hating because Raffy didn't resgn with the Bravos, glad he didn't

though, Esco is far better.....

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well i believe that after spending the offseason away from the message boards i believe it is time to return now.

Wearing a falcons #7 jersey at the dome that day is HIGH TREASON. It is insulting to Thomas Dimitroff, Matt Ryan, Mike Smith, and all the other high character people in this organization. Those people are not true fans.

Why is it insulting? You take football way too seriously. Michael Vick and his number is part of our history. Here's something to think about it. If it weren't for Michael Vick, we probably wouldn't have TD, Ryan, and Smith. We might even still be stuck with Petrino and McKay. So it's not high treason, just part of life. There were good times and bad times with Vick. S**t happens and you move forward and onward.

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Tandy don't apologize for an opinion. I offered mine (you acknowledged that) and you're a well known Falcons faithful, so your opinion will be respected.

HeIl, your living room has more fan spirit than some people at the game. :D

I'll offer another opinion: Mike Vick created a buzz in this fanbase and the majority of the fanbase (myself included) LOVED HIM! We were excited to have the most talked about player in the league on our team, and hungry (and still hungry) for a championship. Too bad he fell short, way short, as a leader. He fell so far because he rose so high.

Forgiving the man is not the problem, it is forgetting him. It is arguable as to what he did more for the team: Good or bad?

With that being said, we have a new QB who hasn't screwed up and is quickly becoming just as exciting as Vick. I don't understand why people can't move on, forgiving Vick or not, and focusing on the present talent on our team.

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Okay stop trying to school me, i know who they are :P You just hating because Raffy didn't resgn with the Bravos, glad he didn't

though, Esco is far better.....

I'm not trying to school you. It seems to me it would be the exact opposite, since you just iterated that this was a baited question.

On the contrary, I am NOT mad that we didn't sign Furcal. Look up his stats then look up Yunel's and Prado's (Escobar was moving to 2nd if Furcal came to Atlanta, so Prado is relevant). This was a blessing in disguise and I couldn't be happier with the team, choice, and not signing a man with chronic back problems.

Good luck trying to "school me" on the Braves because I definitely know that team inside and out. :P

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If I see people wearing a Vick Eagles jersey I would simply shake my head and laugh at them.

Jaworsky was #7. I think even alot of Eagles fans would kick the dog crap out of someone that wore and Eagles #7.

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If I see people wearing a Vick Eagles jersey I would simply shake my head and laugh at them.

Judging by what I've heard on the radio/ESPN, Eagles fans would laugh at them too... and probably more.

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Tandy don't apologize for an opinion. I offered mine (you acknowledged that) and you're a well known Falcons faithful, so your opinion will be respected.

HeIl, your living room has more fan spirit than some people at the game. :D

I'll offer another opinion: Mike Vick created a buzz in this fanbase and the majority of the fanbase (myself included) LOVED HIM! We were excited to have the most talked about player in the league on our team, and hungry (and still hungry) for a championship. Too bad he fell short, way short, as a leader. He fell so far because he rose so high.

Forgiving the man is not the problem, it is forgetting him. It is arguable as to what he did more for the team: Good or bad?

With that being said, we have a new QB who hasn't screwed up and is quickly becoming just as exciting as Vick. I don't understand why people can't move on, forgiving Vick or not, and focusing on the present talent on our team.

I hear what you're saying and I do get it. I'm just saying that I may not understand it - I'm just not going to try to judge what it means. I would have to walk a mile in their shoes to understand what they feel - and it's too damned hot right now to be walking in shoes. :)

Seriously though - even though it seems a lifetime ago - it's still way too soon for everyone to put it behind them. There are passionate feelings on both sides. Time will heal us all eventually.

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It means they are racist....quite simple....but it will happen.....Atlanta is a town defined by race....always has been, always will be.

sadly u r right ..... and it all started with slavery..... -_- -_- -_-

still our nation is not healed yet and may never be

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I hear what you're saying and I do get it. I'm just saying that I may not understand it - I'm just not going to try to judge what it means. I would have to walk a mile in their shoes to understand what they feel - and it's too damned hot right now to be walking in shoes. :)

Seriously though - even though it seems a lifetime ago - it's still way too soon for everyone to put it behind them. There are passionate feelings on both sides. Time will heal us all eventually.

That's the quote of the thread on behalf of Vick Jersey Wearer's defense.

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I'm not trying to school you. It seems to me it would be the exact opposite, since you just iterated that this was a baited question.

On the contrary, I am NOT mad that we didn't sign Furcal. Look up his stats then look up Yunel's and Prado's (Escobar was moving to 2nd if Furcal came to Atlanta, so Prado is relevant). This was a blessing in disguise and I couldn't be happier with the team, choice, and not signing a man with chronic back problems.

Good luck trying to "school me" on the Braves because I definitely know that team inside and out. :P

We probably could school each other - Anyway, we need to sweep the Phils, since my wife's Cubbies couldn't help us out.... ;)

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We probably could school each other - Anyway, we need to sweep the Phils, since my wife's Cubbies couldn't help us out.... ;)

Oh yeah, I talked to you about that over in TATB. You must have a strong bond, because I would have divorced my wife if she was a Cubs fan after the 2003 NLDS.

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Judging by what I've heard on the radio/ESPN, Eagles fans would laugh at them too... and probably more.

I'm not so sure. After it was announced last night, I went over the their board and it was like going back in time to this board. All of the same arguments for and against were rehashed on their board. Some 40+ year fans were ready to quit on their team and others were breaking out all of the old apologist justifications. It was like ridding yourself of a disease and sending it to your worst enemy so yeah I had to jab them a little.

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I'm not so sure. After it was announced last night, I went over the their board and it was like going back in time to this board. All of the same arguments for and against were rehashed on their board. Some 40+ year fans were ready to quit on their team and others were breaking out all of the old apologist justifications. It was like ridding yourself of a disease and sending it to your worst enemy so yeah I had to jab them a little.

A friend at the game said that the crowd reaction was schocked and mostly positive. I imagine that Philly is gonna be very similar to what Atlanta was like for years...divided. After 3 weeks they'll just care about winning though...let's be real...he's not the starter.

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I hear what you're saying and I do get it. I'm just saying that I may not understand it - I'm just not going to try to judge what it means. I would have to walk a mile in their shoes to understand what they feel - and it's too damned hot right now to be walking in shoes. :)

Seriously though - even though it seems a lifetime ago - it's still way too soon for everyone to put it behind them. There are passionate feelings on both sides. Time will heal us all eventually.

I was basically saying the same thing about making assumptions about what wearing that uniform says. I have often struggled with the idea of a Christmas tree. If I choose not to put one up because to me it is one of the symbols of commercialism is that statement getting across or does it look like I am a part of some other religion? Since people who believe in the holiday and those that don't put up trees what does it even mean anymore? In the end a person driving by the house can't tell what it means for me to have one up or not so I decided it was a wash.

Now let me put on my wise cap and put in another good word for anyone who chooses to wear a Falcons #7. What kind of person do you want to be in life? A person who assumes the best of people or a person who assumes the worst?

Vick is damaged goods and odds are against him ever rebuilding his career with what time remains. He has spent time in prison, had to file bankruptcy, and de-railed his career. It is all his fault but is it such a bad thing for people to start forgiving him and letting it go? Could that sign of forgiveness be something as simple as wearing his falcons jersey to a game? That would be thinking the best of the person.

The worst of that person is obvious.

We are all going to let it go at our own pace (if at all). I am not a person who can live with a permanent grudge so at some point I will move on too. I am not sure I am there yet but I can't say what timeline is right for another person. I look forward to letting it all go, I really do. When TD cut him I started feeling better. Even though I knew it was coming when it actually happened it made me feel better.

Some of it depends on our personal view of history. Some of us have really long memories and some already feel like it was a lifetime ago. I think I am somewhere in the middle.

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Outside of maybe a breif and freindly tonned smack talk comment you have no right to do ANYTHING to somebody wearing a vick jearsy. We live in a free country, and they can wear whatever team or sports jearsy they want.(though I would like to see more Red n Black Jearsys) Falcons may be your favorite team but this isn't your stadium and that person probally payed good money for that ticket. This isn't Brazil or Europe where you can just accoust somebody in the stadium parking lot.

I think that this is about how I feel to a T.......

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The falcons should give out ryan jersey's to people who turn in thier vick jersey's and then give them all back to mike!!! J/K.I have 3 vick jersey's and plan on keeping them all.And if i choose to wear 1 I will.I paid good money for them.But I wouldnt wear them to the dome.I need to update my jersys I have 11 jerseys and none of them are current falcon players.But any ways i could care less what other people are wearing the only thing i think about when i am at a game is the falcons winning the game!!! So people please stop hating and start getting along and enjoy are superbowl run!!!!!!

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But the OP, apparently has some issues of his own. You say nothing to the next man no matter what he has on. Because it will speak for itself:

#2 jersey = Falcons fan.

Falcons #7 jersey = Vick fan, Falcons fan (or just doesn't have the money to get a Ryan or Turner jersey).

Eagles #7 jersey = Vick fan (possible Eagles fan).

Eagles #5 jersey = Apparently Lost. Lol.

So just mind your business and enjoy the game.

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