michiganfalcon Posted August 4, 2009 Share Posted August 4, 2009 1. Between the 2 who do you think had more potential?2. Between the 2 who has more pure abilty?3. Between the 2 who will win a SB first?My answers:1. Michael Vick IMO had by far the biggest potential of any player in NFL HISTORY. If he were to have become a more accomplished passer he could have been possibly the best NFL player ever.2. I believe Matt has more pure talent. He has that 'it' factor that every team looks for in a starting QB and IMO only 5 current QB's have that and they are: Matt, Brady, Peyton, Big Ben, and Warner.3. Well i am hoping it is Matt, but Michael would have an equal chance if the patriots or steelers sign him. But one thing is for sure Matt will win one first as a starting QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crankdatfalcon Posted August 4, 2009 Share Posted August 4, 2009 is this a trick thread or something??? if it is, then neither QB..id take kurt kittner.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SetzerFalcon Posted August 4, 2009 Share Posted August 4, 2009 is this a trick thread or something??? if it is, then neither QB..id take kurt kittner..Doug Johnson could start for any team in the league! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sumslap Posted August 4, 2009 Share Posted August 4, 2009 1 matt ryan 2 mike vick3 matt ryan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juiceaccts Posted August 4, 2009 Share Posted August 4, 2009 Matt Ryan on all 3, unless by ability you mean speed and arm strength. Matt Ryan has the mindset and the other intangibles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muskokas finest © Posted August 4, 2009 Share Posted August 4, 2009 Nobody can ever argue Vick's potential and pure physical ability, but the franchise is muchbetter off with Ryan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theyhateme : ) Posted August 4, 2009 Share Posted August 4, 2009 Nevermind.... :mellow: -_- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michiganfalcon Posted August 4, 2009 Author Share Posted August 4, 2009 Nobody can ever argue Vick's potential and pure physical ability, but the franchise is muchbetter off with Ryan110% true. Vick had the most raw ability in NFL history but wasn't consistent enough to win(alot of it is teammates fault). But now we have a captain sailing a steady ship and the captain is matt ryan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theyhateme : ) Posted August 4, 2009 Share Posted August 4, 2009 110% true. Vick had the most raw ability in NFL history but wasn't consistent enough to win(alot of it is teammates fault). But now we have a captain sailing a steady ship and the captain is matt ryanVick had way more Wins than Losses..... :mellow: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michiganfalcon Posted August 4, 2009 Author Share Posted August 4, 2009 Vick had way more Wins than Losses..... :mellow:but only in a couple playoffs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theyhateme : ) Posted August 4, 2009 Share Posted August 4, 2009 but only in a couple playoffs2 appearances in 4 year....2 for 4 in playoff games...I don't see the problem...he carried the team to the NFCCG.... :mellow: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finally Posted August 4, 2009 Share Posted August 4, 2009 It depends on how you view them I suppose. I think Ryan is a better qb even though he is not the better athelete. Vick has a chance to get the ring first but in order to win one as a starting qb he needs to be on a team with great defense.Ryan has demonstrated that he understands the nuts and bolts of being a qb. Vick didn't have to learn the basics because he could just run the ball. When push comes to shove you need a real qb under center because the gimmick is not going to work every time you need it. Also, vick is more injury prone because of his running game and he turns the ball over way too often. I assume he will come back into the league more coachable and some of his problems will finally get fixed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonaBWE Posted August 4, 2009 Share Posted August 4, 2009 The word potential has an amazing way of meaning something when it means absolutely nothing.Examples:I could potentially win the lottery this week.I could potentially sleep win all of the Hooters bikini winners.I think you all get the idea.Michael Vick had great arm strength and was a very fast and quick runner. Arm strength meant nothing for him because of his inaccuracies, inability to read defenses, horrible work ethic, etc. He was a runner at the QB position. He was nothing more and well under average at every NFL QB level.Matt Ryan does not have the arm strength that Vick had and is not as fast as Vick was but he does more with less physical ability. There is also a mental side that somehow always gets left out. Vick didn't have the mental ability to stay away from a horrendous criminal enterprise, just in case you give Vick too much credit for his intelligence. Matt Ryan has it all. I appreciate the Falcons for what they have done. Dimitroff GOOD McKay BAD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theyhateme : ) Posted August 4, 2009 Share Posted August 4, 2009 It depends on how you view them I suppose. I think Ryan is a better qb even though he is not the better athelete. Vick has a chance to get the ring first but in order to win one as a starting qb he needs to be on a team with great defense.Ryan has demonstrated that he understands the nuts and bolts of being a qb. Vick didn't have to learn the basics because he could just run the ball. When push comes to shove you need a real qb under center because the gimmick is not going to work every time you need it. Also, vick is more injury prone because of his running game and he turns the ball over way too often. I assume he will come back into the league more coachable and some of his problems will finally get fixed.In fairness to Vick...Ryan turned the ball over what 11 times? That's a lot dont you think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finally Posted August 4, 2009 Share Posted August 4, 2009 In fairness to Vick...Ryan turned the ball over what 11 times? That's a lot dont you think?As a rookie that is pretty good. On the other hand vick turned the ball over 17 times in 2006 between interceptions and fumbles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gritz Posted August 4, 2009 Share Posted August 4, 2009 In fairness to Vick...Ryan turned the ball over what 11 times? That's a lot dont you think?12 interceptions last year for Peyton Manning, 14 the year before.......12 interceptions in 2006 for Tom Brady, 16 the year before...........So to answer your question, no, that's not a lot.......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconidae Posted August 4, 2009 Share Posted August 4, 2009 In fairness to Vick...Ryan turned the ball over what 11 times? That's a lot dont you think?In his 6th year, Vick had 45 sacks, 13 INTs and 9 fumbles, basically 1 out of every 7 plays Vick ran ended very badly. That's just pathetic for a veteran.In his rookie year, Ryan- 17, 11 and 4- one out of every 20 plays ended badly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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