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your a cool dude and all Kix but I learned long ago not to go clicking on links all willy nilly on this board :lol:

naw man, it's legit, I don't do that mess.... B)

Antidepressant use doubles in US, study finds 03 Aug 2009 20:00:22 GMT

Source: Reuters

* Use doubles from 13 million to 27 million Americans

* Increase in use not seen among blacks

* More Americans may accept diagnosis of depression

By Maggie Fox, Health and Science Editor

WASHINGTON, Aug 3 (Reuters) - Use of antidepressant drugs in the United States doubled between 1996 and 2005, probably because of a mix of factors, researchers reported on Monday.

About 6 percent of people were prescribed an antidepressant in 1996 -- 13 million people. This rose to more than 10 percent or 27 million people by 2005, the researchers found.

"Significant increases in antidepressant use were evident across all sociodemographic groups examined, except African Americans," Dr. Mark Olfson of Columbia University in New York and Steven Marcus of the University of Pennsylvania in Philadelphia wrote in the Archives of General Psychiatry.

"Not only are more U.S. residents being treated with antidepressants, but also those who are being treated are receiving more antidepressant prescriptions," they added.

More than 164 million prescriptions were written in 2008 for antidepressants, totaling $9.6 billion in U.S. sales, according to IMS Health.

Drugs that affect the brain chemical serotonin like GlaxoSmithKline's <GSK.L> Paxil, known generically as paroxetine, and Eli Lilly and Co's <LLY.N> Prozac, known generically as fluoxetine, are the most commonly prescribed class of antidepressant. But the study found the effect in all classes of the drugs.

Olfson and Marcus looked at the Medical Expenditure Panel Surveys done by the U.S. Agency for Healthcare Research and Quality, involving more than 50,000 people in 1996 and 2005.

"During this period, individuals treated with antidepressants became more likely to also receive treatment with antipsychotic medications and less likely to undergo psychotherapy," they wrote.

SOCIAL ACCEPTANCE

The survey did not look at why, but the researchers made some educated guesses. It may be more socially acceptable to be diagnosed with and treated for depression, they said. The availability of new drugs may also have been a factor.

"Although there was little change in total promotional spending for antidepressants between 1999 ($0.98 billion) and 2005 ($1.02 billion), there was a marked increase in the percentage of this spending that was devoted to direct-to consumer advertising, from 3.3 percent ($32 million) to 12 percent ($122.00 million)," they added.

Dr. Eric Caine of the University of Rochester in New York said he was concerned by the findings. "Antidepressants are only moderately effective on population level," he said in a telephone interview.

Caine, who was not involved in the research, noted that several studies show therapy is as effective as, if not more effective than, drug use alone.

"There are no data to say that the population is healthier. Indeed, the suicide rate in the middle years of life has been climbing," he said.

Olfson and Marcus said out-of-pocket costs for psychotherapy and lower insurance coverage for such visits may have driven patients away from seeing therapists in favor of an easy-to-prescribe pill.

The rise in antidepressant prescriptions also is seen despite a series of public health warnings on use of antidepressant drugs beginning in 2003 after clinical trials showed they increased the risk of suicidal thoughts and behaviors in children and teens.

In February 2005, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration added its strongest warning, a so-called black box, on the use of all antidepressants in children and teens.

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naw man, it's legit, I don't do that mess.... B)

Antidepressant use doubles in US, study finds 03 Aug 2009 20:00:22 GMT

Source: Reuters

* Use doubles from 13 million to 27 million Americans

* Increase in use not seen among blacks

* More Americans may accept diagnosis of depression

By Maggie Fox, Health and Science Editor

WASHINGTON, Aug 3 (Reuters) - Use of antidepressant drugs in the United States doubled between 1996 and 2005, probably because of a mix of factors, researchers reported on Monday.

About 6 percent of people were prescribed an antidepressant in 1996 -- 13 million people. This rose to more than 10 percent or 27 million people by 2005, the researchers found.

"Significant increases in antidepressant use were evident across all sociodemographic groups examined, except African Americans," Dr. Mark Olfson of Columbia University in New York and Steven Marcus of the University of Pennsylvania in Philadelphia wrote in the Archives of General Psychiatry.

"Not only are more U.S. residents being treated with antidepressants, but also those who are being treated are receiving more antidepressant prescriptions," they added.

More than 164 million prescriptions were written in 2008 for antidepressants, totaling $9.6 billion in U.S. sales, according to IMS Health.

Drugs that affect the brain chemical serotonin like GlaxoSmithKline's <GSK.L> Paxil, known generically as paroxetine, and Eli Lilly and Co's <LLY.N> Prozac, known generically as fluoxetine, are the most commonly prescribed class of antidepressant. But the study found the effect in all classes of the drugs.

Olfson and Marcus looked at the Medical Expenditure Panel Surveys done by the U.S. Agency for Healthcare Research and Quality, involving more than 50,000 people in 1996 and 2005.

"During this period, individuals treated with antidepressants became more likely to also receive treatment with antipsychotic medications and less likely to undergo psychotherapy," they wrote.

SOCIAL ACCEPTANCE

The survey did not look at why, but the researchers made some educated guesses. It may be more socially acceptable to be diagnosed with and treated for depression, they said. The availability of new drugs may also have been a factor.

"Although there was little change in total promotional spending for antidepressants between 1999 ($0.98 billion) and 2005 ($1.02 billion), there was a marked increase in the percentage of this spending that was devoted to direct-to consumer advertising, from 3.3 percent ($32 million) to 12 percent ($122.00 million)," they added.

Dr. Eric Caine of the University of Rochester in New York said he was concerned by the findings. "Antidepressants are only moderately effective on population level," he said in a telephone interview.

Caine, who was not involved in the research, noted that several studies show therapy is as effective as, if not more effective than, drug use alone.

"There are no data to say that the population is healthier. Indeed, the suicide rate in the middle years of life has been climbing," he said.

Olfson and Marcus said out-of-pocket costs for psychotherapy and lower insurance coverage for such visits may have driven patients away from seeing therapists in favor of an easy-to-prescribe pill.

The rise in antidepressant prescriptions also is seen despite a series of public health warnings on use of antidepressant drugs beginning in 2003 after clinical trials showed they increased the risk of suicidal thoughts and behaviors in children and teens.

In February 2005, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration added its strongest warning, a so-called black box, on the use of all antidepressants in children and teens.

I could easily be prescribed anxiety medicine if I wanteed but most of those drugs just kill your personality. You dont even act like the same person anymore on that ****. People always look for the easy way out. Being depressed is part of life. It happens to everybody. However, although I dont want any of that ****, I love me some Loritab lol

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I could easily be prescribed anxiety medicine if I wanteed but most of those drugs just kill your personality. You dont even act like the same person anymore on that ****. People always look for the easy way out. Being depressed is part of life. It happens to everybody. However, although I dont want any of that ****, I love me some Loritab lol

Well they're easy to love, I must say.

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I could easily be prescribed anxiety medicine if I wanteed but most of those drugs just kill your personality. You dont even act like the same person anymore on that ****. People always look for the easy way out. Being depressed is part of life. It happens to everybody. However, although I dont want any of that ****, I love me some Loritab lol

If people would exercise more and eat better, depression would significantly decrease in this country. A whole lot of our problems (and attendant health care costs) in this country come from the fact that we are sedentary fat piles.

Can you exercise, eat right and still be depressed? Of course you can. But exercise and diet go a LONG way toward preventing it in the first place, particularly in people with no history of depression and no situational issues (i.e., death of a family member, etc.).

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I could easily be prescribed anxiety medicine if I wanteed but most of those drugs just kill your personality. You dont even act like the same person anymore on that ****. People always look for the easy way out. Being depressed is part of life. It happens to everybody. However, although I dont want any of that ****, I love me some Loritab lol

I have to disagree with you there. Friends and family have accused me of being "manic depressive" for years. After my heart attack last fall, and the gradual realization that this wasn't something I could just bounce back from, I was having a hard time coping with the hand I'd been dealt and was pretty much shutting down. There were weeks when I wouldn't leave the house. I talked to my cardiologist about it and he immediately referred me to my family doctor who prescribed Prozac.. While I couldn't tell much difference at first friends and family noticed a change and now after 8 weeks I do too. It hasn't affected my personality a bit, I'm the same ornery old cuss I've always been but I'm much less likely to spend the day doing nothing or let little things send me into a spiral.

Being sad is a normal part of life, depression is not. There is a HUGE difference.

If people would exercise more and eat better, depression would significantly decrease in this country. A whole lot of our problems (and attendant health care costs) in this country come from the fact that we are sedentary fat piles.

Can you exercise, eat right and still be depressed? Of course you can. But exercise and diet go a LONG way toward preventing it in the first place, particularly in people with no history of depression and no situational issues (i.e., death of a family member, etc.).

I agree with this 100%. Last spring I started a structured Cardiac-rehab program and for 60 days I worked out 3 times a week in a monitored environment. The workouts were very low impact and the physical improvements were minuscule although I managed to lose 25 lbs.. However, my outlook has seldom been better.

Unfortunately, I received some bad news about the prospects of going back to work one afternoon and didn't go back to re-hab. I pretty much shut down for 2 months until the Prozac. I don't see the drug as a long term solution but if it can help get me going again I'm all for it.

All of that being said, I do believe anti-depressants are probably over prescribed. My doctor basically prescribed the Prozac based on my self diagnosis.

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i got put on those things when i was having all my medical problems and hated it. I felt like a zombie and that stuff took away the one pleasure I had left to me. I quit taking them after 2-3 weeks

They made you quit eating waffles??

:huh::o

Or did you loose your desire to go hiking the old Appalachian Trail?

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If people would exercise more and eat better, depression would significantly decrease in this country. A whole lot of our problems (and attendant health care costs) in this country come from the fact that we are sedentary fat piles.

Can you exercise, eat right and still be depressed? Of course you can. But exercise and diet go a LONG way toward preventing it in the first place, particularly in people with no history of depression and no situational issues (i.e., death of a family member, etc.).

i completely agree with you, i know it to be the truth from personal experience. after i started exercising and eating right, i'm always in a good mood, and when things get me down, i think about them more rationally rather than just feeling sorry for myself and moping around

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I have to disagree with you there. Friends and family have accused me of being "manic depressive" for years. After my heart attack last fall, and the gradual realization that this wasn't something I could just bounce back from, I was having a hard time coping with the hand I'd been dealt and was pretty much shutting down. There were weeks when I wouldn't leave the house. I talked to my cardiologist about it and he immediately referred me to my family doctor who prescribed Prozac.. While I couldn't tell much difference at first friends and family noticed a change and now after 8 weeks I do too. It hasn't affected my personality a bit, I'm the same ornery old cuss I've always been but I'm much less likely to spend the day doing nothing or let little things send me into a spiral.

Being sad is a normal part of life, depression is not. There is a HUGE difference.

I agree with this 100%. Last spring I started a structured Cardiac-rehab program and for 60 days I worked out 3 times a week in a monitored environment. The workouts were very low impact and the physical improvements were minuscule although I managed to lose 25 lbs.. However, my outlook has seldom been better.

Unfortunately, I received some bad news about the prospects of going back to work one afternoon and didn't go back to re-hab. I pretty much shut down for 2 months until the Prozac. I don't see the drug as a long term solution but if it can help get me going again I'm all for it.

All of that being said, I do believe anti-depressants are probably over prescribed. My doctor basically prescribed the Prozac based on my self diagnosis.

Im not saying there isnt a small percentage of the population that may need it. But docs prescribe that **** left and right

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I have to disagree with you there. Friends and family have accused me of being "manic depressive" for years. After my heart attack last fall, and the gradual realization that this wasn't something I could just bounce back from, I was having a hard time coping with the hand I'd been dealt and was pretty much shutting down. There were weeks when I wouldn't leave the house. I talked to my cardiologist about it and he immediately referred me to my family doctor who prescribed Prozac.. While I couldn't tell much difference at first friends and family noticed a change and now after 8 weeks I do too. It hasn't affected my personality a bit, I'm the same ornery old cuss I've always been but I'm much less likely to spend the day doing nothing or let little things send me into a spiral.

Being sad is a normal part of life, depression is not. There is a HUGE difference.

I agree with this 100%. Last spring I started a structured Cardiac-rehab program and for 60 days I worked out 3 times a week in a monitored environment. The workouts were very low impact and the physical improvements were minuscule although I managed to lose 25 lbs.. However, my outlook has seldom been better.

Unfortunately, I received some bad news about the prospects of going back to work one afternoon and didn't go back to re-hab. I pretty much shut down for 2 months until the Prozac. I don't see the drug as a long term solution but if it can help get me going again I'm all for it.

All of that being said, I do believe anti-depressants are probably over prescribed. My doctor basically prescribed the Prozac based on my self diagnosis.

The part that I highlighted above is 100% on the money, IMO. In years past I tried a few different anti-depressants (sp) and each one seemed to help me out within 10 days or so. But after about 2 months I think my body became used to them and the effectiveness wore off substantially.

What JDave posted is totally correct, also. If you can increase your activity rate on a consistent basis you will eventually begin to feel better. I've become rather slovenly in the last couple of years. Just about 2 weeks ago I went back to the place where I first discovered the positive link bertween activity and mood. I began to walk/jog/ run(?) :D:lol: and I am slowly beginning to feel a bit better eventhough at my age there is real physical pain that I am dealing with.

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percocet + xanax + beer ftw

last time I mixed Xanex and alcohol I woke up three towns away in a hotel room with some chick I had never seen before and absolutley no memory of the night before. Luckily she was a cutie. I was in Florida and I walked down to the highway and had no clue what town I was in. I called my buddy and told him I am on highway 98 near an airforce base, please come pick me up. He showed up an hour later :lol:

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last time I mixed Xanex and alcohol I woke up three towns away in a hotel room with some chick I had never seen before and absolutley no memory of the night before. Luckily she was a cutie. I was in Florida and I walked down to the highway and had no clue what town I was in. I called my buddy and told him I am on highway 98 near an airforce base, please come pick me up. He showed up an hour later :lol:

Seems to be the norm when mixing Xanax and booze. Still have the tong-shape burn scar around my leg and memories of the fugly ***** I woke up next to in the morning. Good times.

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