falconchef Posted April 25, 2009 Share Posted April 25, 2009 Steve Wyche reported on NFL Network that Mike Smith was going to begin installing some 3-4 defensive schemes into our playbook. Knowing this, I'd rather give a first and second to Carolina for Julius Peppers than give the same to KC for Glen Dorsey.Discuss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theburner33 Posted April 25, 2009 Share Posted April 25, 2009 i think Dorsey is gonna be a impact player for years to come i want our team getting younger not older. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*NiteFalcon* Posted April 25, 2009 Share Posted April 25, 2009 i think Dorsey is gonna be a impact player for years to come i want our team getting younger not older.it doesnt matter what you think. thats such ridiculous gamble. your not a talent evaluator i dont know how you can sit there and say you would give up so much for someone like dorsey coming off a poor rookie season and the team that drafted him 5th overall wanting to unload him! forget the scheme issues, forget the fact that he was a rookie; SOMETHING IS FISHY THERE! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abcranford2 Posted April 25, 2009 Share Posted April 25, 2009 why do people keep saying he had a bad rookie season...it was actually a really good season for a rookie DT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi-Falcon Posted April 25, 2009 Share Posted April 25, 2009 Dorsey actually didnt have a bad season at all, even for a rookie. His stats compared to the rest of the league were actually pretty good, and better than any DT on the Falcons had.Dorsey was just on a ****** defense overall, and lost in the obscurity of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millenium falcon Posted April 25, 2009 Share Posted April 25, 2009 i want dorsey. 1st and 2nd rd makes me cringe. for our 1st and 3rd they got a deal. if we can keep our second rd pick and get dorsey i will flip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconsd56 Posted April 25, 2009 Share Posted April 25, 2009 That is a very valid point...........the whole purpose why people think he will be traded is the fact he does not fit a 3-4.............well if we are going to run some 3-4 what would be the point trading for him??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GATECHfan Posted April 25, 2009 Share Posted April 25, 2009 i dont think that the panthers would trade with us anyway since we're in the same division. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoMoreVick Posted April 25, 2009 Share Posted April 25, 2009 1) Peppers hasn't even signed his tender, so he can't be traded to ANY team.2) Even if he could, Carolina would NOT trade him within their own division.3) Even if they did, it's too large of a gamble for what we'd have to give for him.4) No. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWIFT HITTER Posted April 25, 2009 Share Posted April 25, 2009 Clint Sintim espcially if we are going to use some 3-4 schemes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durrty Posted April 25, 2009 Share Posted April 25, 2009 Why is it so great that we trade for Dorsey? Aren't we pretty solid at that position? I understand that you should always have valuable depth at each position, but Dorsey is a starter and we've already re-signed our starter in Babs this year...it wouldn't make sense to re-sign one player, then trade picks for another player at the same position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Return-of-the-Falcon Posted April 25, 2009 Share Posted April 25, 2009 way too big of a contract, we need to keep our picks, its all just speculation i really hope TD just sticks to the draft where he has shown he can be very successful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconchef Posted April 25, 2009 Author Share Posted April 25, 2009 1) Peppers hasn't even signed his tender, so he can't be traded to ANY team.2) Even if he could, Carolina would NOT trade him within their own division.3) Even if they did, it's too large of a gamble for what we'd have to give for him.4) No.So that being the case, we could negotiate a contract with Peppers, then take a franchise tag counter offer (A first, second, and maybe late round next year) to the Panthers. They'd have to consider it really hard, having an upset player for one more year or getting all that in return. I would like to point out that if we do trade for Dorsey, I will be in complete favor of that as well. I just think we might be able to make the same sort of deal for Peppers.Money-wise, Peppers would cost exponentially more, I realize. I'm very intrigued by the fact (as some other posters have pointed out in different threads) that we could get Dorsey for what would be considered a bargain price, with Kansas City already having eaten up most of his bonus and guaranteed money. That prospect has sweetened the Dorsey deal in my eyes, and probably TD's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of God Posted April 25, 2009 Share Posted April 25, 2009 Steve Wyche reported on NFL Network that Mike Smith was going to begin installing some 3-4 defensive schemes into our playbook. Knowing this, I'd rather give a first and second to Carolina for Julius Peppers than give the same to KC for Glen Dorsey.DiscussNot going to use it every down or that often. Our 4-3 version is almost like the 3-4 anyways in passing situations. This was all a set of Captain Obvious implications. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pzummo Posted April 25, 2009 Share Posted April 25, 2009 I think we are going to take Larry English at #24. He could play LBer in the 3-4 and he could switch to passrusher in the 4-3. Perfect fit. I don't think we trade for either of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconchef Posted April 25, 2009 Author Share Posted April 25, 2009 I think we are going to take Larry English at #24. He could play LBer in the 3-4 and he could switch to passrusher in the 4-3. Perfect fit. I don't think we trade for either of them.That would also be fine... We don't give up anyting for anybody, and TD drafts us a defense like he created for us an offense!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thelonious Mingus Posted April 25, 2009 Share Posted April 25, 2009 I rather draft English than 1st and 3rd for Peppers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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