Duff_Man Posted April 24, 2009 Share Posted April 24, 2009 Landry was just on talking about the possible deal. Here's what I remember:-Was working with both TD and Pioli yesterday while they were hammering out the Gonzalez deal. (In case anyone questions his info)-Said TD and the staff LOVE Dorsey.-Said KC is moving to a 3-4, so a deal makes sense for them.-Said ATL may give up their FIRST TWO PICKS to get Dorsey here.-As far as cap room, the Chiefs are tighter than we are, but they can make it work.-Said Tony G has 2.5-3 years left.-Mentioned that as it stands now, ATL got the better of the deal, but if Dorsey gets moved for those picks, it sways to KC.My take:Trade talks are exciting and all, but the first two picks for Dorsey? I am not on board with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIDDA Posted April 24, 2009 Share Posted April 24, 2009 yeah, that seems like an awful lot. There are other DL available in the draft and it will only cost us one pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
collinr01 Posted April 24, 2009 Share Posted April 24, 2009 Dorsey plays the same spot Babs plays, so either we trade him and a pick for Dorsey or it doesn't happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curufin Posted April 24, 2009 Share Posted April 24, 2009 Our first two picks would be about what he's worth. If we should do it or not is another question, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phattywankenobi Posted April 24, 2009 Share Posted April 24, 2009 Considering Dorsey did not live up to the hype yet he is worth a 3rd rounder at best. The real problem is the Chiefs would take a 17.6M cap hit because of the 22M signing bonus. Back to reality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris30277 Posted April 24, 2009 Share Posted April 24, 2009 two picks is just too much to give up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thestufford Posted April 24, 2009 Share Posted April 24, 2009 the first two picks of this years draft is a bit much I think. Maybe our first and a fourth for Dorsey is what I would give. TD's gotta know we need serious upgrades at DT, LB, and CB, not to mention concern's at SS (as usual). So he has got to get atleast 2 to 3 starters on D in this years draft. Giving up our first two picks for one starter isn't going to get it done IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absolute Posted April 24, 2009 Share Posted April 24, 2009 two picks is just too much to give upI don't think 2 is too many just the first 2 is too many IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Duncan Posted April 24, 2009 Share Posted April 24, 2009 I am not liking this. Look at it this way... would you trade the Chiefs 2 of these players: Curtis Lofton, Chevis Jackson, or Sam Baker? I mean, seriously, that's essentially what we're doing. We would be trading 2 starters, for 1. I say offer them the first and a 4th or 5th. If they want it, great. If not, let's not take it. We got a great deal on TG, let's not ruin it by a stupid trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russ7000 Posted April 24, 2009 Share Posted April 24, 2009 2 picks ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benny Posted April 24, 2009 Share Posted April 24, 2009 why not our 1st and one of our 5ths? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
etherdome Posted April 24, 2009 Share Posted April 24, 2009 In my opinion, we would be better off drafting Evander Hood and keeping our second rounder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDirtyWordII Posted April 24, 2009 Share Posted April 24, 2009 Time out: I think it's hard to believe that estabished players like Braylon Edwards and Anquan Boldin are having difficulty fetching a 1st & a 3rd, but the Falcons would willingly give up a 1st & a 2nd.That said, there is simply no way KC could justify letting Dorsey go for just the #24 pick, no matter how much he doesn't fit now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsuqb1 Posted April 24, 2009 Share Posted April 24, 2009 Considering Dorsey did not live up to the hype yet he is worth a 3rd rounder at best. The real problem is the Chiefs would take a 17.6M cap hit because of the 22M signing bonus. Back to reality.I agree with you. KC is the 1 not sure if they want 2 keep the guy, so we hold the cards. A 3rd at the most. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muskokas finest © Posted April 24, 2009 Share Posted April 24, 2009 We don't have much ammo left, but Dorsey solves one big problem. Rather cough up a playerthan that 2nd rounder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absolute Posted April 24, 2009 Share Posted April 24, 2009 Time out: I think it's hard to believe that estabished players like Braylon Edwards and Anquan Boldin are having difficulty fetching a 1st & a 3rd, but the Falcons would willingly give up a 1st & a 2nd.I don't think the OP said we were willing to give up that but going by draft status, only Edwards was a 1st rounder in their draft but both have played well enough to warrant at least a 1st. Their respective teams have over-valued them though. But I blame the Cowboys for trading all those picks for Roy Williams and causing that mess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muskokas finest © Posted April 24, 2009 Share Posted April 24, 2009 I agree with you. KC is the 1 not sure if they want 2 keep the guy, so we hold the cards. A 3rd at the most.They hosed us on Gonzo, so now we hose them back? Doesn't work that way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcVA Posted April 24, 2009 Share Posted April 24, 2009 don't do it. two picks are waaayyyy too much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
direwolf Posted April 24, 2009 Share Posted April 24, 2009 I might be willing to part with our first, but not first and second. We've still got a whole defense to improve and while I think Dorsey would be a big help for us, he wouldn't be the only thing we need.Now, seriously, if it's financially possible, I really wouldn't lose sleep over trading Jamaal Anderson. I don't think it'll happen, though.I do think that Chauncey Davis has earned the right to get a very serious look as the starter at left end. He's been more productive than Anderson with less snaps and gets after the passer better - why shouldn't he start? I don't think that there'd be any dropoff with losing Anderson and starting Davis and we can get another run-stuffing DE later in the draft (the premium is on pass-rushers).Just thinkin' out loud...Direwolf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capologist Posted April 24, 2009 Share Posted April 24, 2009 I'd do that deal in a heartbeat... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DurtyBirds02 Posted April 24, 2009 Share Posted April 24, 2009 Time out: I think it's hard to believe that estabished players like Braylon Edwards and Anquan Boldin are having difficulty fetching a 1st & a 3rd, but the Falcons would willingly give up a 1st & a 2nd.That said, there is simply no way KC could justify letting Dorsey go for just the #24 pick, no matter how much he doesn't fit now.Agreed, he was the what, 4th overall last year. There is no way they trade him for just a 24. But, I dont think we should give them a 1 and 2. I also dont see TD making that move. I would much rather use our 2 picks and get Ziggy Hood and William Moore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanboy3000 Posted April 24, 2009 Share Posted April 24, 2009 If this happened, would we try to trade Babs? If not, would we expect Babs and Dorsey to play together? If not, that's a lot of money tied up into one position on the DL.It also seems like we should have some more leverage here. I mean, it's clear Dorsey doesn't fit what they're doing. Keeping him doesn't do them much good.I just hate the idea of giving up a first and second and paying a guy Top-5 pick money. Maybe if we also swapped thirds with them...I dunno. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tandy Posted April 24, 2009 Share Posted April 24, 2009 To this point, TD has made no moves to make me think I shouldn't trust his judgment. If he determines that Dorsey is worth the value - I believe he has some other deals going to even the scale and he'll make the right call for Atlanta. Until he proves me wrong - I trust his decision, whatever it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDirtyWordII Posted April 24, 2009 Share Posted April 24, 2009 Agreed, he was the what, 4th overall last year. There is no way they trade him for just a 24. But, I dont think we should give them a 1 and 2. I also dont see TD making that move. I would much rather use our 2 picks and get Ziggy Hood and William Moore.And I think that's the arguement TD could/would make and that's why I believe that unless it's a 4th rounder or below (along with the 1st), this deal won't happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoastBeeph Posted April 24, 2009 Share Posted April 24, 2009 The thing is, if we do get Dorsey, we are getting him at a bargain salary price since KC is on the hook for all his bonus money. That makes him that much more valuable to us.I think I would be ok with trading our 1st and 2nd for him if TD likes him that much. He could become a monster in his 2nd year in the NFL.And if this deal is really being talked about, it could explain why KC was ok with taking next year's 2nd for Gonzo instead of this years..they might be getting this year's as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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