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I don't think so. Duty calls.

I hope the event is a great eye-opener.

To what? How many American whiners are ready to build their own roads, start their own military, build their own schools, hire their own emergency services, build their own infrastructure and pay their own police?

Taxation isn't an option, babies, it's a necessary way of paying for things that we all must have. You live in one of the greatest countries on Earth and pay what is close to the lowest tax rates in the history of that nation's progressive tax system...and yet you still feel the need to rush out and whine about taxation.

Seriously, get over it.

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To what? How many American whiners are ready to build their own roads, start their own military, build their own schools, hire their own emergency services, build their own infrastructure and pay their own police?

Taxation isn't an option, babies, it's a necessary way of paying for things that we all must have. You live in one of the greatest countries on Earth and pay what is close to the lowest tax rates in the history of that nation's progressive tax system...and yet you still feel the need to rush out and whine about taxation.

Seriously, get over it.

Americans have been 'whining' about taxation for over 225 years. Get with the program! B)

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To what? How many American whiners are ready to build their own roads, start their own military, build their own schools, hire their own emergency services, build their own infrastructure and pay their own police?

Taxation isn't an option, babies, it's a necessary way of paying for things that we all must have. You live in one of the greatest countries on Earth and pay what is close to the lowest tax rates in the history of that nation's progressive tax system...and yet you still feel the need to rush out and whine about taxation.

Seriously, get over it.

:lol::lol::lol:

Your rant totally missed the point! This is not really about taxation. An event will be held on April 15 (tax day) to protest excessive spending by the current administration. I will provide a link so you can find a Tea Party close to you.

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where was the event to protest the excessive spending of the last administration?

It was there, it just wasn't listened to. But let's be objective here. Bush set in motion the idea that a politician identified with "fiscal conservatism" could be the most irresponsible fiscal manager since FDR. Obama, and his supporters, are now using this pathetic benchmark as some sort of justification for expanded fiscal irresponsibility. What's amazing is that Obama's budgets will exceed the 8 year Bush total in 2 1/2 to 3 years. And Bush doubled in 8 years, what was all the deficits from our entire history. At some point, regardless of mechanism, you have to say "enough is enough".

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where was the event to protest the excessive spending of the last administration?

Bush was blowing most of his money in Iraq and not on domestic issues like healthcare, energy and education. What we've learned about the American Taliban is that they hate to see people in their own country helped.

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Bush was blowing most of his money in Iraq and not on domestic issues like healthcare, energy and education. What we've learned about the American Taliban is that they hate to see people in their own country helped.

You're right. Bush only enacted the largest entitlement expansion since the advent of the Great Society under LBJ in the form of the Medicare Part D prescription plan. It was only a $9 Trillion unfunded entitlement.

And he only increased spending on education nearly 50% during his tenure and rolled out one of the largest failed attempts at education overhauls in the form of "No Child Left Behind".

But let's not let facts get in the way of a good partisan rant.

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If you had any doubt that we were on “The Road to Socialism,” President Obama’s just released budget should clear up that confusion. In fact, we’re so on The Road to Socialism that Barack Obama’s budget reads like he went to MapQuest and printed out turn-by-turn directions to get us to socialism as quickly as possible. So far, President Obama is really making a big scary mess of things and this budget is a giant step in the wrong direction.

Believe me–I understand that I’m not the only one who feels this way.

Here are some of the budget’s broad strokes:

Obama’s budget takes the size of our government to the largest it’s been since World War II.

It’s got a $1.4 trillion tax increase in it (and oh yeah–we’re in the middle of a recession).

It doubles the debt in eight years.

It never balances the budget and proposes that, for the next 10 years, our deficits are at a record high.

Hmmm. Usually I like to frame things in a “good news / bad news” context. That just won’t work here, but I don’t want to be a big downer. So let me put on a happy face and say that all the above was merely the regular, garden-variety bad news! Now here comes the super awful really bad news:

Like a loaded weapon, this budget is aimed directly at you.

Is there a quicker way to end a honeymoon period for a new president than to propose a bunch of new taxes? It’s going to take a lot of serenading from Beyonce to make people forget about having less money…especially in this economy. See, not only is there a proposed huge tax increase for the energy and manufacturing sectors (and those get passed on to everyone), but overall tax rates are going up. All this is a real gut shot for small business. What too many people fail to remember is that small business is big business in America–over 70% of all American business is done by a small business. That means it’s likely that you either own or work for one, so President Obama wants more of your money (and I’m guessing it’s not like you have a whole lot extra lying around these days.)

And then there’s Obama’s suggestion of a “long-term investment in the economy.” That’s a fancy way of saying “increased spending.” (You don’t exactly need a decoder ring to figure that one out.) Another $30 billion for AIG…after they paid out six and seven figure bonuses and recorded the highest quarterly loss ever–over $60 billion–in U.S. history? How deep can our pockets be expected to be? Remember–every dollar the government “invests” in failing businesses is one of your dollars. If you had a stock broker who made the kind of crappy investments Washington has been making (and wants to make more of), you’d have fired them long ago.

This really isn’t that new a story–Democrats have a reputation of taxing and spending because, well…they always tax and spend. President Obama tries to soften his budget’s blow by stating that the tax increases don’t kick in until 2011. Um, Mr. President? It’s not exactly like 2011 is off in the sci-fi future where we’ll all have flying cars and live the life of George Jetson. Just like you need to plan ahead for re-election, small business owners need to do the same thing–plan for their future. So congratulations–now they’re doing that by bracing themselves for the tax avalanche coming their way in just a little over a year and a half from now. So instead of fueling the economy now–when we need it–business will tighten its belt and lower today’s bottom line in preparation for tomorrow’s new taxes. That lowers tax receipts! Instead of getting better, things get worse. Even I get that, and I’m the alcoholic rodeo clown.

Is it Election Day, 2012 yet?

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You're right. Bush only enacted the largest entitlement expansion since the advent of the Great Society under LBJ in the form of the Medicare Part D prescription plan. It was only a $9 Trillion unfunded entitlement.

And he only increased spending on education nearly 50% during his tenure and rolled out one of the largest failed attempts at education overhauls in the form of "No Child Left Behind".

But let's not let facts get in the way of a good partisan rant.

Facts like this?

It was there, it just wasn't listened to.

Yeah we all remember the giant organized protests and tea parties that were a constant during the Bush administration. It was crazy to see the desent and huge pushback from conservatives all across the board. The protests and hysteria was all there. (the media just ignored it and refused to report it or nobody wanted to listen to it) <_<

I remember when Glen Beck created the 9/10 project and cried from the roof top for everyone to take their country back after Bush increased education spending. I remember Rush and Hannity calling Bush a socialist everyday and claiming that we were living under a fascist rule.... i Remember all the conservative politicians in the house and senate voting lockstep against all of Bush's spending bills because they couldn't in good conscious leave that type of debt to their children..Actually I don't remember any of this...Not because it never happened but because I guess I just wasn't listening. <_<

GTFOH....

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It was there, it just wasn't listened to. But let's be objective here. Bush set in motion the idea that a politician identified with "fiscal conservatism" could be the most irresponsible fiscal manager since FDR. Obama, and his supporters, are now using this pathetic benchmark as some sort of justification for expanded fiscal irresponsibility. What's amazing is that Obama's budgets will exceed the 8 year Bush total in 2 1/2 to 3 years. And Bush doubled in 8 years, what was all the deficits from our entire history. At some point, regardless of mechanism, you have to say "enough is enough".
I understand and I'm with you in some regard. I think we would all like to see more common sense spending. No one can fully grasp the idea of tens of millions of dollars being spent on things like 'office furniture' and the like at a time like this.

What really devalues the argument, though, is that people don't pick that battle. They rant and rave about taxation in general, suggest that government spending to increase demand is somehow a foreign idea, even though it's a theory supported by pretty much every economist worth his/her salt and then assert that the government can't do an7ything right...all the while begging for the government to fix every problem in their lives.

It would also be nice if we had had some of these cute little parties over the last 8 years. That might add some legitimacy to the argument.

The extremism and ideological absolutism are what bother me.

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If you had any doubt that we were on “The Road to Socialism,” President Obama’s just released budget should clear up that confusion. In fact, we’re so on The Road to Socialism that Barack Obama’s budget reads like he went to MapQuest and printed out turn-by-turn directions to get us to socialism as quickly as possible. So far, President Obama is really making a big scary mess of things and this budget is a giant step in the wrong direction.

Believe me–I understand that I’m not the only one who feels this way.

Here are some of the budget’s broad strokes:

Obama’s budget takes the size of our government to the largest it’s been since World War II.

It’s got a $1.4 trillion tax increase in it (and oh yeah–we’re in the middle of a recession).

It doubles the debt in eight years.

It never balances the budget and proposes that, for the next 10 years, our deficits are at a record high.

Hmmm. Usually I like to frame things in a “good news / bad news” context. That just won’t work here, but I don’t want to be a big downer. So let me put on a happy face and say that all the above was merely the regular, garden-variety bad news! Now here comes the super awful really bad news:

Like a loaded weapon, this budget is aimed directly at you.

Is there a quicker way to end a honeymoon period for a new president than to propose a bunch of new taxes? It’s going to take a lot of serenading from Beyonce to make people forget about having less money…especially in this economy. See, not only is there a proposed huge tax increase for the energy and manufacturing sectors (and those get passed on to everyone), but overall tax rates are going up. All this is a real gut shot for small business. What too many people fail to remember is that small business is big business in America–over 70% of all American business is done by a small business. That means it’s likely that you either own or work for one, so President Obama wants more of your money (and I’m guessing it’s not like you have a whole lot extra lying around these days.)

And then there’s Obama’s suggestion of a “long-term investment in the economy.” That’s a fancy way of saying “increased spending.” (You don’t exactly need a decoder ring to figure that one out.) Another $30 billion for AIG…after they paid out six and seven figure bonuses and recorded the highest quarterly loss ever–over $60 billion–in U.S. history? How deep can our pockets be expected to be? Remember–every dollar the government “invests” in failing businesses is one of your dollars. If you had a stock broker who made the kind of crappy investments Washington has been making (and wants to make more of), you’d have fired them long ago.

This really isn’t that new a story–Democrats have a reputation of taxing and spending because, well…they always tax and spend. President Obama tries to soften his budget’s blow by stating that the tax increases don’t kick in until 2011. Um, Mr. President? It’s not exactly like 2011 is off in the sci-fi future where we’ll all have flying cars and live the life of George Jetson. Just like you need to plan ahead for re-election, small business owners need to do the same thing–plan for their future. So congratulations–now they’re doing that by bracing themselves for the tax avalanche coming their way in just a little over a year and a half from now. So instead of fueling the economy now–when we need it–business will tighten its belt and lower today’s bottom line in preparation for tomorrow’s new taxes. That lowers tax receipts! Instead of getting better, things get worse. Even I get that, and I’m the alcoholic rodeo clown.

Is it Election Day, 2012 yet?

This just in: the government needs to spend money to raise an economy out of recession.
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Facts like this?

Yeah we all remember the giant organized protests and tea parties that were a constant during the Bush administration. It was crazy to see the desent and huge pushback from conservatives all across the board. The protests and hysteria was all there. (the media just ignored it and refused to report it or nobody wanted to listen to it) <_<

I remember when Glen Beck created the 9/10 project and cried from the roof top for everyone to take their country back after Bush increased education spending. I remember Rush and Hannity calling Bush a socialist everyday and claiming that we were living under a fascist rule.... i Remember all the conservative politicians in the house and senate voting lockstep against all of Bush's spending bills because they couldn't in good conscious leave that type of debt to their children..Actually I don't remember any of this...Not because it never happened but because I guess I just wasn't listening. <_<

GTFOH....

The albatross issue of the day was Iraq and the War on Terror, and there was plenty of haranguing going on about those (both sides). But the supposed "loyal opposition" (Democrats) are not, nor have they tried to be portrayed as, fiscal conservatives. In fact, the arguments were "not enough" on both counts, never "enough is enough". This kind of drowns out the spotlight for other relevant issues. The American public can barely digest following two reality shows, much less multiple issues involving the mundane world of fiscal responsibility.

You're just applying the "head in the sand" logic of "where was it then", just because "your guy" is at the center of the storm. Who cares, really? This issue is beyond partisanship, and if it takes the absolutely insane levels we're approaching now to mobilize enough people and attention to address it, then let's hope it isn't too late.

Finally, I don't define fiscal conservatism by the opinions of talk show blowhards. Just like I don't define liberalism by the opinions of Phil Donahue, Jack Cafferty, or Sean Penn. I'd recommend you expand your understanding of it beyond those who are simply trying to grab the limelight to enhance their popularity.

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The albatross issue of the day was Iraq and the War on Terror, and there was plenty of haranguing going on about those (both sides). But the supposed "loyal opposition" (Democrats) are not, nor have they tried to be portrayed as, fiscal conservatives. In fact, the arguments were "not enough" on both counts, never "enough is enough". This kind of drowns out the spotlight for other relevant issues. The American public can barely digest following two reality shows, much less multiple issues involving the mundane world of fiscal responsibility.

You're just applying the "head in the sand" logic of "where was it then", just because "your guy" is at the center of the storm. Who cares, really? This issue is beyond partisanship, and if it takes the absolutely insane levels we're approaching now to mobilize enough people and attention to address it, then let's hope it isn't too late.

Finally, I don't define fiscal conservatism by the opinions of talk show blowhards. Just like I don't define liberalism by the opinions of Phil Donahue, Jack Cafferty, or Sean Penn. I'd recommend you expand your understanding of it beyond those who are simply trying to grab the limelight to enhance their popularity.

Alright cool I won't define fiscal conservatism by elected politicians, scientific opinion polls or radio hosts with tens millions of listeners.. From now on I'll define it by a guy that posts his thoughts on a football messageboard... Comparing someone like Cafferty or Donahue's impact to Hannity or Limbaugh's is laughable. When is the last time an elected official apologized to Donahue or called Cafferty a great leader and strong liberal voice? Your argument is so flawed it's hilarious...

And the answer to your question of "who cares?" is obviously you because you felt the need to respond on a defensive matter.

BTW....Your first paragraph about the "issue of the day" is completely at odds with your initial response to this topic... It actually proves my point....Last time I checked Al Queda is still a threat and we are at war in two countries...

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