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it's a shame, too, b/c newt can do good as a policy wonk. he's garbage as a politician (and a human being), but the man doesn't have sense enough to stick w/ his strengths.

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Posted at 7:03 AM ET, 04/ 9/2009

The News From Planet Hannity

Did you hear about Obama's trip overseas? He apologized. He groveled. He bowed to the Saudis!!! He said America is a bad place, and he spouted all that rhetoric he learned at the feet of the Rev. Jeremiah Wright and Bill Ayers. I know this because I've been reading and watching the Fair and Balanced media. Like last night, I caught a little bit of "Hannity," which is named after the host, Sean Hannity, who is so smart that he can discern stuff that didn't even actually happen.

Let's go to the tape: This is Hannity speaking with Newt Gingrich last night (per my hastily typed transcript):

Hannity: "[Obama is] coming off a tour where he's constantly apologizing for America, referring to us as an arrogant country, dictating to the world our views, and that we're not a Christian nation. We are a nation founded on Judeo-Christian principles. Now, I'm looking at his world view, and I'm thinking, okay, this sounds like he learned something sitting in Rev. Wright's pews and hanging out with, palling around with, Bill Ayers."

Newt Gingrich: "And I think he learned an awful lot reading Revelry for Radicals [oops, make that Reveille for Radicals] and studying left wing activists in South Side Chicago. I think it's very important to recognize that what you're watching is the most radical left wing administration in American history. The foreign policy trip, I think, was pretty pathetic...."

This echoes a column yesterday in the New York Post that got a prominent link from Drudge:

On every stage, Obama draped Lady Liberty in sackcloth and ashes, drawing plentiful applause but no serious economic or security cooperation in return. Then, in Turkey, he surrendered our national pride, undercut our interests and interfered in matters that aren't his business.

Wow. Sounds awful. Just to make sure, I checked the transcripts of Obama's remarks, including his very controversial speech to the Turkish parliament and his round-table exchange with students. Check it out yourself:

Obama to the students:

A part of that process involves giving you a better sense of America. I know that the stereotypes of the United States are out there, and I know that many of them are informed not by direct exchange or dialogue, but by television shows and movies and misinformation. Sometimes it suggests that America has become selfish and crass, or that we don't care about the world beyond us. And I'm here to tell you that that's not the country that I know and it's not the country that I love.

America, like every other nation, has made mistakes and has its flaws. But for more than two centuries we have strived at great cost and sacrifice to form a more perfect union, to seek with other nations a more hopeful world. We remain committed to a greater good, and we have citizens in countless countries who are serving in wonderful capacities as doctors and as agricultural specialists, people -- teachers -- people who are committed to making the world a better place.

We're also a country of different backgrounds and races and religions that have come together around a set of shared ideals. And we are still a place where anybody has a chance to make it if they try. If that wasn't true, then somebody named Barack Hussein Obama would not be elected President of the United States of America. That's the America I want you to know.

Huh.

Well, maybe it was later in that round-table that he spouted the Bill Ayers stuff. Let's listen in:

there are some areas where I agree with many of my friends in the United States who are on the opposite political party. For example, I agree that al Qaeda is an enormous threat not just to the United States but to the world. I have no sympathy and I have no patience for people who would go around blowing up innocent people for a political cause. I don't believe in that.

Yeah, but he probably really stuck it to America later on, I bet. Let's see what he said when asked why so many Americans responded so positively to his election:

You know, in terms of my election, I think that what people felt good about was it affirmed the sense that America is still a land of opportunity. I was not born into wealth. I wasn't born into fame. I come from a racial minority. My name is very unusual for the United States. And so I think people saw my election as proof, as testimony, that although we are imperfect, our society has continued to improve; that racial discrimination has been reduced; that educational opportunity for all people is something that is still available. And I also think that people were encouraged that somebody like me who has a background of living overseas, who has Muslims in his family -- you know, that I might be able to help to build bridges with other parts of the world. You know, the American people are a very hopeful people. We're an optimistic people by nature. We believe that anything is possible if we put our minds to it.

Okay.... So maybe when he spoke to the parliament, that's when he trashed America. Let's look:

[D]emocracies cannot be static -- they must move forward. Freedom of religion and expression lead to a strong and vibrant civil society that only strengthens the state, which is why steps like reopening Halki Seminary will send such an important signal inside Turkey and beyond. An enduring commitment to the rule of law is the only way to achieve the security that comes from justice for all people. Robust minority rights let societies benefit from the full measure of contributions from all citizens.

I say this as the President of a country that not very long ago made it hard for somebody who looks like me to vote, much less be President of the United States. But it is precisely that capacity to change that enriches our countries. Every challenge that we face is more easily met if we tend to our own democratic foundation. This work is never over. That's why, in the United States, we recently ordered the prison at Guantanamo Bay closed. That's why we prohibited -- without exception or equivocation -- the use of torture. All of us have to change. And sometimes change is hard.

Another issue that confronts all democracies as they move to the future is how we deal with the past. The United States is still working through some of our own darker periods in our history. Facing the Washington Monument that I spoke of is a memorial of Abraham Lincoln, the man who freed those who were enslaved even after Washington led our Revolution. Our country still struggles with the legacies of slavery and segregation, the past treatment of Native Americans.

Human endeavor is by its nature imperfect. History is often tragic, but unresolved, it can be a heavy weight. Each country must work through its past. And reckoning with the past can help us seize a better future. I know there's strong views in this chamber about the terrible events of 1915. And while there's been a good deal of commentary about my views, it's really about how the Turkish and Armenian people deal with the past. And the best way forward for the Turkish and Armenian people is a process that works through the past in a way that is honest, open and constructive."

It's always tricky going to someone else's parliament and suggesting that they haven't deal adequately with a genocidal chapter in their history.

Now, let's go back to that "Hannity" tape. Here's Gingrich: "We are not a secular country. We're a country which was founded with a Declaration of Independence which says, we are endowed by our Creator with certain inalienable rights. Now, how can you say all of your rights as an American come from your Creator and then pretend that you're a secular society. We're not."

Newt, you're confusing us with Iran. (How do you explain this thing?)

I realize whatever I say is tainted by my membership in a suspect class (the "Liberal Media"), but I must note that the Hannity/Gingrich narrative seems to describe a trip made by a president on a parallel Earth. He espoused what's good about America, and, to the extent he acknowledged past imperfections, he framed them as triumphs of societal evolution. Obama didn't perform like a rookie at all; I'm amazed at how cool and collected he has been in his new role. He dazzled his audiences -- almost as much as his wife impressed them.

The far-right conservatives cover themselves in no glory if they measure the value of a presidential trip solely in units of what we get from these foreigners. And it's not clear to me that Hannity and Gingrich are actually espousing conservative principles. Hannity wants audience and knows that there is no moderate niche in the cable gab world; Gingrich may very well be running for president and likely sees the Hannity audience as his potential base. I need to remember: They're not talking to me.

Man, I miss Bill Buckley.

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it's a shame, too, b/c newt can do good as a policy wonk. he's garbage as a politician (and a human being), but the man doesn't have sense enough to stick w/ his strengths.

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/achenblog/?hpid=opinionsbox1

Posted at 7:03 AM ET, 04/ 9/2009

The News From Planet Hannity

Did you hear about Obama's trip overseas? He apologized. He groveled. He bowed to the Saudis!!! He said America is a bad place, and he spouted all that rhetoric he learned at the feet of the Rev. Jeremiah Wright and Bill Ayers. I know this because I've been reading and watching the Fair and Balanced media. Like last night, I caught a little bit of "Hannity," which is named after the host, Sean Hannity, who is so smart that he can discern stuff that didn't even actually happen.

Let's go to the tape: This is Hannity speaking with Newt Gingrich last night (per my hastily typed transcript):

Hannity: "[Obama is] coming off a tour where he's constantly apologizing for America, referring to us as an arrogant country, dictating to the world our views, and that we're not a Christian nation. We are a nation founded on Judeo-Christian principles. Now, I'm looking at his world view, and I'm thinking, okay, this sounds like he learned something sitting in Rev. Wright's pews and hanging out with, palling around with, Bill Ayers."

Newt Gingrich: "And I think he learned an awful lot reading Revelry for Radicals [oops, make that Reveille for Radicals] and studying left wing activists in South Side Chicago. I think it's very important to recognize that what you're watching is the most radical left wing administration in American history. The foreign policy trip, I think, was pretty pathetic...."

This echoes a column yesterday in the New York Post that got a prominent link from Drudge:

On every stage, Obama draped Lady Liberty in sackcloth and ashes, drawing plentiful applause but no serious economic or security cooperation in return. Then, in Turkey, he surrendered our national pride, undercut our interests and interfered in matters that aren't his business.

Wow. Sounds awful. Just to make sure, I checked the transcripts of Obama's remarks, including his very controversial speech to the Turkish parliament and his round-table exchange with students. Check it out yourself:

Obama to the students:

A part of that process involves giving you a better sense of America. I know that the stereotypes of the United States are out there, and I know that many of them are informed not by direct exchange or dialogue, but by television shows and movies and misinformation. Sometimes it suggests that America has become selfish and crass, or that we don't care about the world beyond us. And I'm here to tell you that that's not the country that I know and it's not the country that I love.

America, like every other nation, has made mistakes and has its flaws. But for more than two centuries we have strived at great cost and sacrifice to form a more perfect union, to seek with other nations a more hopeful world. We remain committed to a greater good, and we have citizens in countless countries who are serving in wonderful capacities as doctors and as agricultural specialists, people -- teachers -- people who are committed to making the world a better place.

We're also a country of different backgrounds and races and religions that have come together around a set of shared ideals. And we are still a place where anybody has a chance to make it if they try. If that wasn't true, then somebody named Barack Hussein Obama would not be elected President of the United States of America. That's the America I want you to know.

Huh.

Well, maybe it was later in that round-table that he spouted the Bill Ayers stuff. Let's listen in:

there are some areas where I agree with many of my friends in the United States who are on the opposite political party. For example, I agree that al Qaeda is an enormous threat not just to the United States but to the world. I have no sympathy and I have no patience for people who would go around blowing up innocent people for a political cause. I don't believe in that.

Yeah, but he probably really stuck it to America later on, I bet. Let's see what he said when asked why so many Americans responded so positively to his election:

You know, in terms of my election, I think that what people felt good about was it affirmed the sense that America is still a land of opportunity. I was not born into wealth. I wasn't born into fame. I come from a racial minority. My name is very unusual for the United States. And so I think people saw my election as proof, as testimony, that although we are imperfect, our society has continued to improve; that racial discrimination has been reduced; that educational opportunity for all people is something that is still available. And I also think that people were encouraged that somebody like me who has a background of living overseas, who has Muslims in his family -- you know, that I might be able to help to build bridges with other parts of the world. You know, the American people are a very hopeful people. We're an optimistic people by nature. We believe that anything is possible if we put our minds to it.

Okay.... So maybe when he spoke to the parliament, that's when he trashed America. Let's look:

[D]emocracies cannot be static -- they must move forward. Freedom of religion and expression lead to a strong and vibrant civil society that only strengthens the state, which is why steps like reopening Halki Seminary will send such an important signal inside Turkey and beyond. An enduring commitment to the rule of law is the only way to achieve the security that comes from justice for all people. Robust minority rights let societies benefit from the full measure of contributions from all citizens.

I say this as the President of a country that not very long ago made it hard for somebody who looks like me to vote, much less be President of the United States. But it is precisely that capacity to change that enriches our countries. Every challenge that we face is more easily met if we tend to our own democratic foundation. This work is never over. That's why, in the United States, we recently ordered the prison at Guantanamo Bay closed. That's why we prohibited -- without exception or equivocation -- the use of torture. All of us have to change. And sometimes change is hard.

Another issue that confronts all democracies as they move to the future is how we deal with the past. The United States is still working through some of our own darker periods in our history. Facing the Washington Monument that I spoke of is a memorial of Abraham Lincoln, the man who freed those who were enslaved even after Washington led our Revolution. Our country still struggles with the legacies of slavery and segregation, the past treatment of Native Americans.

Human endeavor is by its nature imperfect. History is often tragic, but unresolved, it can be a heavy weight. Each country must work through its past. And reckoning with the past can help us seize a better future. I know there's strong views in this chamber about the terrible events of 1915. And while there's been a good deal of commentary about my views, it's really about how the Turkish and Armenian people deal with the past. And the best way forward for the Turkish and Armenian people is a process that works through the past in a way that is honest, open and constructive."

It's always tricky going to someone else's parliament and suggesting that they haven't deal adequately with a genocidal chapter in their history.

Now, let's go back to that "Hannity" tape. Here's Gingrich: "We are not a secular country. We're a country which was founded with a Declaration of Independence which says, we are endowed by our Creator with certain inalienable rights. Now, how can you say all of your rights as an American come from your Creator and then pretend that you're a secular society. We're not."

Newt, you're confusing us with Iran. (How do you explain this thing?)

I realize whatever I say is tainted by my membership in a suspect class (the "Liberal Media"), but I must note that the Hannity/Gingrich narrative seems to describe a trip made by a president on a parallel Earth. He espoused what's good about America, and, to the extent he acknowledged past imperfections, he framed them as triumphs of societal evolution. Obama didn't perform like a rookie at all; I'm amazed at how cool and collected he has been in his new role. He dazzled his audiences -- almost as much as his wife impressed them.

The far-right conservatives cover themselves in no glory if they measure the value of a presidential trip solely in units of what we get from these foreigners. And it's not clear to me that Hannity and Gingrich are actually espousing conservative principles. Hannity wants audience and knows that there is no moderate niche in the cable gab world; Gingrich may very well be running for president and likely sees the Hannity audience as his potential base. I need to remember: They're not talking to me.

Man, I miss Bill Buckley.

Mizz you are just stuck on Obama trying to blow his Muslim master thing . Come on Liberals..All of you know, the Socialist Obama is just another closet radical Muslim. :D

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i had a feeling that was you ban -_-

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Ban, your on this MB 24/7 :lol::lol: Your a college kid bra, go find some fun man :)

dont worry about me bro. normally im not on here that much, but lately been staying clean, because finals are around the corner and i need to study, so im on here and studying. less than 20 days and i will probably be out for summer.

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Great read. Thanks for the post. Republicans and their propagandists have completely lost touch with reality. What a bunch of crybabies and sore losers. The upside to all of this is that they are not only becoming increasingly irrelevant, but that their FOX News cronies are proving themselves to be the National Enquirer of cable journalism: news in name only. Perhaps that should be their new tag line.

I too am surprised by Gingrich, I've always respected him as the architect of the Republican Revolution and given credit where credit is due. Unfortunately it appears he is unable to do the same for President Obama. Any idiot who paid attention to Obama's trip abroad, actually watched his speeches and read the transcripts, would recognize this as brilliant diplomacy on a level not seen since the Kennedy years and perhaps never. He certainly laid the groundwork for the undoing of the mess the last clown made of things. What a remarkable contrast.

John Stewart did a great job of summing up Republican vitriol on his show the other night, in case you missed it:

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Shut up and eat your taco Newt.

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Great read. Thanks for the post. Republicans and their propagandists have completely lost touch with reality. What a bunch of crybabies and sore losers. The upside to all of this is that they are not only becoming increasingly irrelevant, but that their FOX News cronies are proving themselves to be the National Enquirer of cable journalism: news in name only. Perhaps that should be their new tag line.

I too am surprised by Gingrich, I've always respected him as the architect of the Republican Revolution and given credit where credit is due. Unfortunately it appears he is unable to do the same for President Obama. Any idiot who paid attention to Obama's trip abroad, actually watched his speeches and read the transcripts, would recognize this as brilliant diplomacy on a level not seen since the Kennedy years and perhaps never. He certainly laid the groundwork for the undoing of the mess the last clown made of things. What a remarkable contrast.

John Stewart did a great job of summing up Republican vitriol on his show the other night, in case you missed it:

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Shut up and eat your taco Newt.

stewart always does a great job of summing up the Hippocratic nature of both parties

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