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English remains interesting, but his history of serious injuries – high right ankle sprain, sprained right shoulder, torn right ACL, torn pectoral and a broken right hand — in college are a turn off.

I really didn't know a whole lot about him but I didn't have any idea of his past injury situation.

http://blogs.ajc.com/atlanta-falcons-blog/...ta_falcons_blog

This is the link but you have to go down to find it. It's right after they say why they think we will not draft Matthews. Obviously, I disagree with that but whatever. English has way too many injuries to be even close to the first round.

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Sounds like FS Moore from Mo. That dude plays like KB every game, He leaves it all on the field every game . The thing I loved about KB though is he knew how to do that and not get hurt , WE gonna miss that MAN! I say KB makes the probowl this year again with Dallas. Just watch.

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English remains interesting, but his history of serious injuries – high right ankle sprain, sprained right shoulder, torn right ACL, torn pectoral and a broken right hand — in college are a turn off.

I really didn't know a whole lot about him but I didn't have any idea of his past injury situation.

http://blogs.ajc.com/atlanta-falcons-blog/...ta_falcons_blog

This is the link but you have to go down to find it. It's right after they say why they think we will not draft Matthews. Obviously, I disagree with that but whatever. English has way too many injuries to be even close to the first round.

high ankle sprains can happen to anyone and ACL injuries can happen to anyone... its football

Sprained shoulders and torn pectoral's can be avoided by safer habits in the gym.

I'm not too worried about him... his production speaks for itself.

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high ankle sprains can happen to anyone and ACL injuries can happen to anyone... its football

Sprained shoulders and torn pectoral's can be avoided by safer habits in the gym.

I'm not too worried about him... his production speaks for itself.

Well played.......

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English remains interesting, but his history of serious injuries – high right ankle sprain, sprained right shoulder, torn right ACL, torn pectoral and a broken right hand — in college are a turn off.

I really didn't know a whole lot about him but I didn't have any idea of his past injury situation.

http://blogs.ajc.com/atlanta-falcons-blog/...ta_falcons_blog

This is the link but you have to go down to find it. It's right after they say why they think we will not draft Matthews. Obviously, I disagree with that but whatever. English has way too many injuries to be even close to the first round.

Add that to the fact English fits better in 3-4 and you get a firm "no thanks"

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Add that to the fact English fits better in 3-4 and you get a firm "no thanks"

what are you basing this on? And please dont say size, because John Abraham is basically the same size. I don't know where this myth came that he's a better fit in the 3-4. IMO, he doesn't have the hips to cover nor the top end speed to play OLB in the 3-4. His strengths all come from having his hand on the ground. He has very good acceleration, very nice pass rush moves, and has the strength and power to hold up against the run.

It seems like whenever a DE is a little underweight, people just assume he'll be better as an OLB in a 3-4. I just don't see it on this one...

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Add that to the fact English fits better in 3-4 and you get a firm "no thanks"

That is a myth, he fits good in a 4-3 as a RDE, he may not be the best run stopping DE, but i think that we wont be a huge liability and he showed that in Senior Bowl practices. He has never played LB in college and still has a lot to learn. He can play either RDE in a 4-3 or OLB in a 3-4 (But it may be a while before he plays everydown in either one, effectively)

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what are you basing this on? And please dont say size, because John Abraham is basically the same size. I don't know where this myth came that he's a better fit in the 3-4. IMO, he doesn't have the hips to cover nor the top end speed to play OLB in the 3-4. His strengths all come from having his hand on the ground. He has very good acceleration, very nice pass rush moves, and has the strength and power to hold up against the run.

It seems like whenever a DE is a little underweight, people just assume he'll be better as an OLB in a 3-4. I just don't see it on this one...

exactly. good post. he struggles in space (i think it is because he plays too tall in his backpedal... among a couple other things) and that would be a pretty big issue as an OLB in a 3-4.

and i was going to say the only reason i dont think we will be taking larry english is because we havent had a private workout with him, and TD wont be pulling a rich mckay and drafting someone like jamaal anderson without working him out privately. at least imo. but that article that the original poster linked us to mentioned that english is coming for a private visit soon. that makes me perfectly comfortable mocking him to us at #24.

-Mr. Offseason

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what are you basing this on? And please dont say size, because John Abraham is basically the same size. I don't know where this myth came that he's a better fit in the 3-4. IMO, he doesn't have the hips to cover nor the top end speed to play OLB in the 3-4. His strengths all come from having his hand on the ground. He has very good acceleration, very nice pass rush moves, and has the strength and power to hold up against the run.

It seems like whenever a DE is a little underweight, people just assume he'll be better as an OLB in a 3-4. I just don't see it on this one...

The "myth" came from scouts who watched him play and project him as a 3-4 rush linebacker, not unlike Anthony Spencer. He's also

on the short side for a DE and gets washed out versus the run, while he struggles versus the pass at SLB. It's a big jump from

Northern Illinois to the NFL and there are too many question marks about Larry English.

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Why do you say that, because he will be a RDE, not a LDE, he does not have the size to be a EVerydown LDE. He will come in on passing plays as a LDE, but his everdown position will be RDE.

Abe is RDE right? If the falcons draft English, he will be playing opposite of Abe.

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That is a myth, he fits good in a 4-3 as a RDE, he may not be the best run stopping DE, but i think that we wont be a huge liability and he showed that in Senior Bowl practices. He has never played LB in college and still has a lot to learn. He can play either RDE in a 4-3 or OLB in a 3-4 (But it may be a while before he plays everydown in either one, effectively)

I don't know about you, but I want more than a lick and a promise for #24 overall

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The "myth" came from scouts who watched him play and project him as a 3-4 rush linebacker, not unlike Anthony Spencer. He's also

on the short side for a DE and gets washed out versus the run, while he struggles versus the pass at SLB. It's a big jump from

Northern Illinois to the NFL and there are too many question marks about Larry English.

During Senior Bowl practices English was not spectacular against the run but he held his own, and proved not to be a liability. He is not very good in coverage as a OLB. There are some ? marks regarding his ability to have an immeidate impact as a 3-4 OLB, but he can have an impact as a 4-3 end. Scouts do feel like overtime he can be effective as a 3-4 OLB, these are where the ? marks are, not as a 4-3 end.

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I just didn't know about his injuries. I really didn't know anything about him until the draft hype then I ran into that article and was surprised at all the injuries. Yea, it can happen to anyone but when you always get hurt you tend to think someone is a little prone at getting hurt. I like the fact he played through most of it but it's still something to consider. It's the torn ACL that worries me the most. If we go DE, I think I'd rather go with MJ if he's there. Of course, I felt the same way before I seen all the injuries that English had. I'm really starting to heavily lean toward taking Matthews if he's there anyway. WE need a DE though. At least a pass rushing specialist at some point.

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Abe is RDE right? If the falcons draft English, he will be playing opposite of Abe.

he will not be playing everydown, only on passing downs, he will eventually take over for Abe at RDE. That is why i would rather have Micheal Johnson because he can play at LDE or RDE everydown.

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he will not be playing everydown, only on passing downs, he will eventually take over for Abe at RDE. That is why i would rather have Micheal Johnson because he can play at LDE or RDE everydown.

Abe doesn't play every down either, its called a rotation...if English does get drafted by us, he will be starting opposite of abe and rotate with Anderson.

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During Senior Bowl practices English was not spectacular against the run but he held his own, and proved not to be a liability. He is not very good in coverage as a OLB. There are some ? marks regarding his ability to have an immeidate impact as a 3-4 OLB, but he can have an impact as a 4-3 end. Scouts do feel like overtime he can be effective as a 3-4 OLB, these are where the ? marks are, not as a 4-3 end.

As a 4-3 end, he isn't worth #24. 2nd round, that's another story

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