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Falcons 1st round draft pick - #24......given recent developments


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I think steroids and ganja automatically are huge red flags that should be strongly considered to take "the player" off the Falcons draft board. I think both steroids/marijuana lead to character and judgement issues. Regarding steroids, besides the "cheating" and ethical issues, it now becomes harder to predict what a players capabilities are because you have to assume that how the player played on the field was enhanced by the gains on the steroids. The pot smokers bother me even more. How STUPID do you have to be if you are an athlete and you smoke pot in the year you are getting drafted into the NFL - "Percy, I hope you enjoyed that mary-jane cigarette - it cost you $1,000,000!" - dumbarss! I know many of you guys are "pot apologists" saying its no big deal - but I disagree strongly. I will take a LaDanian Tomlinson or a Peyton Manning who are talented and clean over talented dope smokers in the league who burn up their brain cells and make dumb decisions......If drug test rumors are true - goodbye Percy Harvin, goodbye BJ Raji and goodbye Vontae Davis - the Atlanta Falcons don't want you!

But I digress..........I really like character guys - which does not mean they are "perfect" but on balance they show good judgement. I have been a ]"Clay Matthews guy" to date but I will be jumping off his bandwagon IF the steroid rumors are true - to date, I don't know if it has been confirmed or not. I would also eliminate Brian Cushing if steroid test is positive. Goodbye Clay Matthews :( , goodbye Brian Cushing. If Rey Maualuga is a walking train wreck off the field then he can exit the building as well.....

Falcons want talented players - but they need talented players that are mature, talented players that stay out of trouble, talented players that don't use drugs and talented players that are not selfish and clubhouse cancers........

Falcons also draft "needs-based" and "system-specific".......James Lauranaitis is a middle-backer who is somewhat slow and has hard time shedding blocks.................so goodbye James Lauranaitis.

OK, so through steroids, marijuana and talent level - the talented linebackers all just took their own names off the Atlanta Falcons draftboard - at least for the #24 pick overall.

So, what is left, who is left for the Falcons needs that might make some sense for needs, who has character and has enough talent to be considered at #24 or slightly lower in a trade down? who you ask?

Evander "Ziggy" Hood, DT-Missouri

Larry English, DE-Northern Illinois

Clint Sintim, OLB-Virginia

Connor Barwin, OLB-Cincinnati

Louis Delmas, SS-Western Michigan

Darius Butler, CB-Connecticut

Alphonso Smith, CB-Wake Forest

While I know the above list will not "WOW" anyone - most are probably ranked as early 2nd round talent - as far as I know these talented guys all have excellent work ethic and no off-field baggage. I agree that Thomas Dimitroff would be served well to trade down into the pick#28 - #40 range if they were going to take any of these players - maybe he picks up an extra 3rd rounder for his troubles.......

Falcons got the team chemistry right last year and got rid of the malcontents - Dimitroff/Smith can add talent without adding trouble.......

I am really starting to warm up to Ziggy Hood who is not flashy but is a high character, high motor defensive tackle who will help clog the middle but who can stay on the field on pass rush downs - I think he would be pefect for the Falcons....He ain't flashy but I think he would really solidify the defensive line and he would show up game in and game out.

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I think steroids and ganja automatically are huge red flags that should be strongly considered to take "the player". I think both lead to character and judgement issues. Regarding steroids, besides the "cheating" and ethical issues, it now becomes harder to predict what a players capabilities are because you have to assume that how the player played on the field was enhanced by the gains on the steroids. The pot smokers bother me even more. How STUPID do you have to be if you are an athlete and you smoke pot in the year you are getting drafted into the NFL - "Percy, I hope you enjoyed that mary-jane cigarette - it cost you $1,000,000!" - dumbarss! I know many of you guys are "pot apologists" saying its no big deal - but I disagree strongly. I will take a LaDanian Tomlinson or a Peyton Manning who are talented and clean over talented dope smokers in the league who burn up their brain cells and make dumb decisions......If drug test rumors are true - goodbye Percy Harvin, goodbye BJ Raji and goodbye Vontae Davis - the Atlanta Falcons don't want you!

But I digress..........I really like character guys - which does not mean they are "perfect" but on balance they show good judgement. I have been a "Clay Matthews guy" to date but I will be jumping off his bandwagon IF the steroid rumors are true - to date, I don't know if it has been confirmed or not. I would also eliminate Brian Cushing if steroid test is positive. Goodbye Clay Matthews :( , goodbye Brian Cushing. If Rey Maualuga is a walking train wreck off the field then he can exit the building as well.....

Falcons want talented players - but they need talented players that are mature, talented players that stay out of trouble, talented players that don't use drugs and talented players that are not selfish and clubhouse cancers........

Falcons also draft "needs-based" and "system-specific".......James Lauranaitis is a middle-backer who is somewhat slow and has hard time shedding blocks.................so goodbye James Lauranaitis.

OK, so through steroids, marijuana and talent level - the talented linebackers all just took their own names off the Atlanta Falcons draftboard - at least for the #24 pick overall.

So, what is left, who is left for the Falcons needs that might make some sense for needs, who has character and has enough talent to be considered at #24 or slightly lower in a trade down? who you ask?

Evander "Ziggy" Hood, DT-Missouri

Larry English, DE-Northern Illinois

Clint Sintim, OLB-Virginia

Connor Barwin, OLB-Cincinnati

Louis Delmas, SS-Western Michigan

Darius Butler, CB-Connecticut

Alphonso Smith, CB-Wake Forest

Micheal Johnson, DE-Georgia Tech :D

While I know the above list will not "WOW" anyone - most are probably ranked as early 2nd round talent - as far as I know these talented guys all have excellent work ethic and no off-field baggage. I agree that Thomas Dimitroff would be served well to trade down into the pick#28 - #40 range if they were going to take any of these players - maybe he picks up an extra 3rd rounder for his troubles.......

Falcons got the team chemistry right last year and got rid of the malcontents - Dimitroff/Smith can add talent without adding trouble.......

I am really starting to warm up to Ziggy Hood who is not flashy but is a high character, high motor defensive tackle who will help clog the middle but who can stay on the field on pass rush downs - I think he would be pefect for the Falcons....

Evander_Hood.jpg

Had to make a change to the list of prospects, but i agree with your post, but we only know that Raji failed the drug test for sure.

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Had to make a change to the list of prospects, but i agree with your post, but we only know that Raji failed the drug test for sure.

I don't want to turn this into a Michael Johnson thread because I know you have pledged your love to him jaymadd - but Michael Johnson does not meet the requirements on the list because all the players on the list have a "non-stop motor" and Michael Johnson runs "hot and cold" and mostly cold - I know you disagree but its MY LIST! ;)

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You didn't mention Brandon Pettigrew...

I know I did not - thought about it..........I know we could use an upgrade at tight end - but its not crucial - between that and the policeman incident(which I don't think is a big deal) - I just chose to leave Pettigrew off - clearly he is a nice prospect.

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I don't want to turn this into a Michael Johnson thread because I know you have pledged your love to him jaymadd - but Michael Johnson does not meet the requirements on the list because all the players on the list have a "non-stop motor" and Michael Johnson runs "hot and cold" and mostly cold - I know you disagree but its MY LIST! ;)

Well you should should have posted it on the MB then, because you know we going to say something <_< . I have pledged my love to the Falcons, had to correct you. :D

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I know I did not - thought about it..........I know we could use an upgrade at tight end - but its not crucial - between that and the policeman incident(which I don't think is a big deal) - I just chose to leave Pettigrew off - clearly he is a nice prospect.

YOu didnt get smart with him, just me huh :angry::)

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I think steroids and ganja automatically are huge red flags that should be strongly considered to take "the player" off the Falcons draft board. I think both steroids/marijuana lead to character and judgement issues.

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Warren Sapp had a few positive tests that came to light just a few days before the draft and he dropped from a top 5 pick to #12. He had a helluva career. Pot is NOT the spawn of SATAN so may of you try and make it out to be.

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I don't want to turn this into a Michael Johnson thread because I know you have pledged your love to him jaymadd - but Michael Johnson does not meet the requirements on the list because all the players on the list have a "non-stop motor" and Michael Johnson runs "hot and cold" and mostly cold - I know you disagree but its MY LIST! ;)

Well then, a "cold" Johnson put up better numbers than your "non-stop" English. But hey, it's your list. :lol:

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Warren Sapp had a few positive tests that came to light just a few days before the draft and he dropped from a top 5 pick to #12. He had a helluva career. Pot is NOT the spawn of SATAN so may of you try and make it out to be.

No, but it does shown a serious lack of judgement when you know you'll be tested at the combine. Or perhaps some players these days aren't materialistic & don't mind seeing millions of dollars going up in smoke.

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Warren Sapp had a few positive tests that came to light just a few days before the draft and he dropped from a top 5 pick to #12. He had a helluva career. Pot is NOT the spawn of SATAN so may of you try and make it out to be.

I actually agree with the bucs fan on this one. Alcohol causes alot more problems for the NFL than weed does.

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I actually agree with the bucs fan on this one. Alcohol causes alot more problems for the NFL than weed does.

Not just in the NFL, in Upstate NY (where I am from/located) we had a college student die of ODing on alcohol recently, oh not to mention at my old high school Aquinas we lost 1 student who was killed in an "alleged" drunk driving crash where everyone in the car was legally drunk.

I know people won't agree, and I do think it is silly to smoke when you have some of the most important work out/interviews in your life coming up but still, America needs to wake up on the herb subject. Take it from the hands of street dealers, tax the **** out of it and stop releasing violent offenders to fill our jails with pot smokers!

Many people still have the "reefer madness" mentality to marijuana, in fact it is proving to kill Alzheimer causing cells, it's already proven to defeat glaucoma (which my father suffers from and I will probably get) along with 0 people dying from ODing on herb. Sure it can cause motivation issues in abusers but how many drunks do we all know and we just accept it because "it's legal" well alcohol was illegal in this country at one time and we learned from that, hopefully in the next 20 years we can do the same for marijuana.

Not to mention hemp's potential to be a cheap source of paper, fiber and whatnot.

But I don't want Cushing (never did) or Clay (if the tests prove true) and I would gladly take hood or another top tier DT or trade down.

Just my opinion , and no i'm not some burnt out loser, I am a college grad, a successful accountant and an active member in my community.

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Not just in the NFL, in Upstate NY (where I am from/located) we had a college student die of ODing on alcohol recently, oh not to mention at my old high school Aquinas we lost 1 student who was killed in an "alleged" drunk driving crash where everyone in the car was legally drunk.

I know people won't agree, and I do think it is silly to smoke when you have some of the most important work out/interviews in your life coming up but still, America needs to wake up on the herb subject. Take it from the hands of street dealers, tax the **** out of it and stop releasing violent offenders to fill our jails with pot smokers!

Many people still have the "reefer madness" mentality to marijuana, in fact it is proving to kill Alzheimer causing cells, it's already proven to defeat glaucoma (which my father suffers from and I will probably get) along with 0 people dying from ODing on herb. Sure it can cause motivation issues in abusers but how many drunks do we all know and we just accept it because "it's legal" well alcohol was illegal in this country at one time and we learned from that, hopefully in the next 20 years we can do the same for marijuana.

Not to mention hemp's potential to be a cheap source of paper, fiber and whatnot.

But I don't want Cushing (never did) or Clay (if the tests prove true) and I would gladly take hood or another top tier DT or trade down.

Just my opinion , and no i'm not some burnt out loser, I am a college grad, a successful accountant and an active member in my community.

exactly. the problem is if you see this and feel this way then you are labeled a whiny liberal and radical and socialist and you want communism and hitler to rule and some more crazy stupid nonsense but old people can deal with change.

All the negative affects of weed are the same as alcohol only not as severe. When Alcohol was illegal it cause TONS of SERIOUS social problems. think of what would happen is weed was legalized and CONTROLED! but I guess that makes me a crazy radical liberal and via other processes I'm a threat to rich people's money. nevermind the fact that all of mankinds greatest feats of progress were performed by "liberal" thinking.

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Not just in the NFL, in Upstate NY (where I am from/located) we had a college student die of ODing on alcohol recently, oh not to mention at my old high school Aquinas we lost 1 student who was killed in an "alleged" drunk driving crash where everyone in the car was legally drunk.

I know people won't agree, and I do think it is silly to smoke when you have some of the most important work out/interviews in your life coming up but still, America needs to wake up on the herb subject. Take it from the hands of street dealers, tax the **** out of it and stop releasing violent offenders to fill our jails with pot smokers!

Many people still have the "reefer madness" mentality to marijuana, in fact it is proving to kill Alzheimer causing cells, it's already proven to defeat glaucoma (which my father suffers from and I will probably get) along with 0 people dying from ODing on herb. Sure it can cause motivation issues in abusers but how many drunks do we all know and we just accept it because "it's legal" well alcohol was illegal in this country at one time and we learned from that, hopefully in the next 20 years we can do the same for marijuana.

Not to mention hemp's potential to be a cheap source of paper, fiber and whatnot.

But I don't want Cushing (never did) or Clay (if the tests prove true) and I would gladly take hood or another top tier DT or trade down.

Just my opinion , and no i'm not some burnt out loser, I am a college grad, a successful accountant and an active member in my community.

what a bunch of stoners you guys are........ :rolleyes:

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This Post is a huge waste of time considering all of the athletes you have listed as failing the test, In fact have failed nothing. These are all made up rumors and speculation. " o man how can that guy be that big, he must be on roids" Give me a break! Have proof before you make statements.

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We'll know soon if the 'roid' rumors are true, but until then, I would still go with linebacker at #24.

You are correct in observing that the guys on your list probably are 'reaches' at that spot. Hood had a sub-par senior year - I think he only had like 23 tackles and 1.5 sacks. English, at 6'2", is not tall enough while MJ is tall enough, but is absent on way too many plays. Delmas is more like a 2nd round talent (we might be able to get Moore in the 2nd).

I know the focus needs to be on defense, but depending on how things work out, we could consider taking a top offensive tackle if one falls to us.

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