Best DE In The Draft

[Clark Kent™]

Robert Ayers! He is my favorite DE in this draft and we have a legit shot at getting him. His stats as far as sacks go are not very good, but stats are overrated anyways! From all of the games i have seen him in he is an every down player and provides constant pressure and very good against the run as well.

I think Mayock has him rated in his top 5 DE's in the draft. Im not sure which number he is i bet is 4th or 5th. The only DE that will be taken in the top 10 is probably Orakpoo. Then there is Everette Brown (who i think has a legit shot at being a bust). Then there is Aaron Maybin who will probably be picked ahead and even Tyson Jackson could go ahead of Ayers. So with all those guys probably going early not to mention a possible run on OT's again we have a good shot at getting him.

When you look at his combine drills he looks amazing. He runs so smooth and fluent. When i look at the way he runs and Everette Brown i don't think Brown has a fast enough first step to be as succesful as he will be picked at. Mr. Offseason brought up a good point in saying that Ayers might be just a solid DE without much upside to be a legit sacker, but who knows how he can turnout with proper coaching. If we don't get Ayers i hope we get English. If we are to go the pass rushing route as our 1st pick i hope its them two.

[Draftnut57]

Robert Ayers! He is my favorite DE in this draft and we have a legit shot at getting him. His stats as far as sacks go are not very good, but stats are overrated anyways! From all of the games i have seen him in he is an every down player and provides constant pressure and very good against the run as well.

I think Mayock has him rated in his top 5 DE's in the draft. Im not sure which number he is i bet is 4th or 5th. The only DE that will be taken in the top 10 is probably Orakpoo. Then there is Everette Brown (who i think has a legit shot at being a bust). Then there is Aaron Maybin who will probably be picked ahead and even Tyson Jackson could go ahead of Ayers. So with all those guys probably going early not to mention a possible run on OT's again we have a good shot at getting him.

When you look at his combine drills he looks amazing. He runs so smooth and fluent. When i look at the way he runs and Everette Brown i don't think Brown has a fast enough first step to be as succesful as he will be picked at. Mr. Offseason brought up a good point in saying that Ayers might be just a solid DE without much upside to be a legit sacker, but who knows how he can turnout with proper coaching. If we don't get Ayers i hope we get English. If we are to go the pass rushing route as our 1st pick i hope its them two.

He is my favorite also, but he will be gone, But we will have a shot at a Ayers Clone in the 2nd round , Gilbert is his name.

Get this , Gilbert had 22 Tackles for loss last year alone. Dude , this is unheard of . He's the real deal , heres a player that is almost a clone of Ayers who will go before our first pick , and this guy may end up a better player than Ayers. Sure he's moving up the boards but all the good players will move up. That's why I have the players I have in my mock , if they are not moving up. I have the wrong players picked out. But right now Gilbert is suppose to be there.

[Clark Kent™]

Well i'll be ****. Im watchin NFL network now and i see Ayers rated ahead of Jackson and Maybin.

[Jaymadd]

I like Ayers and he would be a great LDE, but i dont think we will draft Ayers since we have Davis and JA98. If we didnt resign DAvis I would love to have Ayers at 24, in fact I was pushing for that before we resigned DAvis.

[67camaro]

He is my favorite also, but he will be gone, But we will have a shot at a Ayers Clone in the 2nd round , Gilbert is his name.

Get this , Gilbert had 22 Tackles for loss last year alone. Dude , this is unheard of . He's the real deal , heres a player that is almost a clone of Ayers who will go before our first pick , and this guy may end up a better player than Ayers. Sure he's moving up the boards but all the good players will move up. That's why I have the players I have in my mock , if they are not moving up. I have the wrong players picked out. But right now Gilbert is suppose to be there.

Now way Ayers goes before the 24th pick. I am a Vols fan, and like the guy a lot, but his #s do not add up to being a top 23 pick. He will go top 2nd to middle 2nd round at best.

[The Great American]

Now way Ayers goes before the 24th pick. I am a Vols fan, and like the guy a lot, but his #s do not add up to being a top 23 pick. He will go top 2nd to middle 2nd round at best.

Ayers had a monster game against Alabama's O-line.

[ugadawg]

I really like the guy too. I listen to the interview with him and his trainer Chuck Smith on the radio and was even more impressed. Chuck said he has the bull rush of LT, and the speed move of Derrick Thomas. That is very impressive compliments from Chuck.

[Clark Kent™]

Yall seen the highlight of him throwing down Georgias LT? He didnt get the sack but he DOZED over that guy and still got a good hit on the QB.

[The Dirty Bird]

He is my favorite also, but he will be gone, But we will have a shot at a Ayers Clone in the 2nd round , Gilbert is his name.

Get this , Gilbert had 22 Tackles for loss last year alone. Dude , this is unheard of . He's the real deal , heres a player that is almost a clone of Ayers who will go before our first pick , and this guy may end up a better player than Ayers. Sure he's moving up the boards but all the good players will move up. That's why I have the players I have in my mock , if they are not moving up. I have the wrong players picked out. But right now Gilbert is suppose to be there.

Gilbert will not last until our 2nd round pick. I tried to explain this yesterday.

I have him rated as my #1 3-4 DE, and there are a good amount of teams that pick before us in the 1st (Denver, Chargers, Jets, Pats) and then again before our 2nd (Miami, Baltimore, Arizona, Pittsburgh + the first list) that run the 3-4 defense and need a DE. No shot that he lasts to our 2nd round pick. Zero. Zilch. Nada.

The Jets and Chargers have been scouting him heavily - and combined they have 4 picks before our 2nd rounder. If you really want him, we will have to use our 1st rounder on him. Don't forget he plays DT in a 4-3 scheme, not that he couldn't play LDE. I think he has the potential to be a dominant LDE in a 4-3 scheme, in which case I would not mind taking him with our 1st.

[hakim24]

He doesn't get a lot of sacks..... so why draft him when that is what we need the most? I would rather draft a Pass Rushing specialist early than a guy who plays the run well and gets pressure.

That is a clone of JA98 and Davis..... we don't need that. I would be very disappointed if we went for Ayers.

[Clark Kent™]

He doesn't get a lot of sacks..... so why draft him when that is what we need the most? I would rather draft a Pass Rushing specialist early than a guy who plays the run well and gets pressure.

That is a clone of JA98 and Davis..... we don't need that. I would be very disappointed if we went for Ayers.

Well just because he didnt have alot of sacks this past year does not neccesarily mean he won't in the big leagues. Also, Abe is going to be racking up sacks so i don't expect him to be puttin up Abe kind of numbers just yet. What is the difference in a "Pass Rushing Specialist" and a guy who gets pressure and plays the run well? Pressure is what we are looking for. It does not neccesarily have to be sacks.

[jidady]

I can't find it on the site right now, but the last time I saw Mayock's overall top 20, Ayers was #5 on his board. I'm seeing a lot of people say he'll go in the top dozen picks. So, he's experienced the same spike Mayo did and is probably a pipe dream.

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Aaron Curry LB Wake Forest Wyche: LB Curry draws lots of eyes | Wyche: Curry wants to go No. 1

2

Eugene Monroe OT Virginia Brandt: OT Monroe excels in position drills

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Michael Crabtree WR Texas Tech Brandt: Crabtree sits out pro day after surgery

4

Jason Smith OT Baylor Brandt: Smith attracts many scouts

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Robert Ayers DE Tennessee March 11

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Knowshon Moreno RB Georgia Brandt: Moreno ailing at pro day | Wyche: RB drops seven pounds

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Brandon Pettigrew TE Oklahoma State Brandt: Pettigrew's workout put on hold

8

Matthew Stafford QB Georgia Wyche: Stafford brings a crowd to Georgia | Brandt: QB is focal point

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Jeremy Maclin WR Missouri Brandt: Maclin does full workout

10

Brian Orakpo DE/LB Texas March 25

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B.J. Raji DT Boston College Brandt: Raji participates in positional drills

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Mark Sanchez QB USC April 1

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Andre Smith OT Alabama Brandt: Smith turns in poor times at pro day

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Vontae Davis CB Illinois Brandt: Davis impresses at pro day

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Percy Harvin WR Florida Brandt: WR coaches come out to see Harvin

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Peria Jerry DT Mississippi March 26

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Malcolm Jenkins CB Ohio State Brandt: Jenkins tries to improve 40-yard dash times

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Josh Freeman QB Kansas State Brandt: Freeman is a hot prospect

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Brian Cushing LB USC April 1

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Larry English LB Northern Illinois March 27

[Clark Kent™]

Wow there must be a ton of different views on this guy. I saw Charles Davis had him as his 3rd best DE in the draft. Then i just saw someones mock top 10 with Maybin going in the top 10. Its going to be interesting to see where he actually lands. I guess i could see him going early or late.

[Tootie Quivers]

I wouldn't flame you for that opinion. I personally like Larry English as a 43 DE, but I have no issue with Robert Ayers.

[Tootie Quivers]

I wish Robert's first name was William instead. Bill Ayers, you know the Obama "friend" who tried to bomb the Pentagon.

That way if we drafted him, his nickname could be the "The Domestic Terrorist".

[Clark Kent™]

I wish Robert's first name was William instead. Bill Ayers, you know the Obama "friend" who tried to bomb the Pentagon.

That way if we drafted him, his nickname could be the "The Domestic Terrorist".

Well thought out

[hakim24]

Well just because he didnt have alot of sacks this past year does not neccesarily mean he won't in the big leagues. Also, Abe is going to be racking up sacks so i don't expect him to be puttin up Abe kind of numbers just yet. What is the difference in a "Pass Rushing Specialist" and a guy who gets pressure and plays the run well? Pressure is what we are looking for. It does not neccesarily have to be sacks.

Well you should be happy with JA98. I think Ayers is a UT or 3-4 DE if he put on some weight. If you can't get sacks in college, it's almost inevitable that you will do the same thing in the League.

The Difference is that Pass Rushing Specialists get sacks and force a bunch of quick throws with their pressure. The main thing is they get sacks.

Ayers is a clone of JA98 imo and I would rather take somebody who has proven that they can get to the passer.

[Clark Kent™]

Well you should be happy with JA98. I think Ayers is a UT or 3-4 DE if he put on some weight. If you can't get sacks in college, it's almost inevitable that you will do the same thing in the League.

The Difference is that Pass Rushing Specialists get sacks and force a bunch of quick throws with their pressure. The main thing is they get sacks.

Ayers is a clone of JA98 imo and I would rather take somebody who has proven that they can get to the passer.

Why should i be happy with JA98? He does not even get decent pressure on opposing QB's. I really don't think Ayers is a UT. He had a 15.5 TFL so that proves that he gets in the backfield and provides a rush. He was voted First Team All SEC by other coaches in the SEC so they obviously think he is legit. Anderson is 6'6 282. Ayers is 6'3 272. If either of them is a UT it is Anderson.

[EllijayFalconsFan]

Well you should be happy with JA98. I think Ayers is a UT or 3-4 DE if he put on some weight. If you can't get sacks in college, it's almost inevitable that you will do the same thing in the League.

The Difference is that Pass Rushing Specialists get sacks and force a bunch of quick throws with their pressure. The main thing is they get sacks.

Ayers is a clone of JA98 imo and I would rather take somebody who has proven that they can get to the passer.

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This.

Why do we need a DE? We already have Kroy, Chauncey, Jamaal, and Abe. If we did get someone why would we go for it so early? Why not let the guys developing play? Its not like Ayers who couldn't buy a sack in college is going to sack the quarterback in the NFL. Give me a guy like Philiip Hunt or any other late DE over Ayers.

[Clark Kent™]

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This.

Why do we need a DE? We already have Kroy, Chauncey, Jamaal, and Abe. If we did get someone why would we go for it so early? Why not let the guys developing play? Its not like Ayers who couldn't buy a sack in college is going to sack the quarterback in the NFL. Give me a guy like Philiip Hunt or any other late DE over Ayers.

Why do we need a DE? Maybe because we only have one DE who is producing. I bet if Ayers started and played as many plays as Anderson then im sure he could put up better numbers. Even if we don't get Ayers in the 1st rd im sure we will get a DE in rd 1 or 2. People get too caught up in sacks. Its not just about sacks. Its about PRESSURE. He provides a constant pressure. Anderson provides hardly any pressure. If it were up to me i'd prob start the Beerman over Anderson

[hakim24]

Why should i be happy with JA98? He does not even get decent pressure on opposing QB's. I really don't think Ayers is a UT. He had a 15.5 TFL so that proves that he gets in the backfield and provides a rush. He was voted First Team All SEC by other coaches in the SEC so they obviously think he is legit. Anderson is 6'6 282. Ayers is 6'3 272. If either of them is a UT it is Anderson.

Because Ayers and JA98 are very similar. TFL's doesn't mean pass rush. A RB can run it to the outside and the DE just makes a move upfield to tackle him. That takes almost nothing compared to what it takes to get to the passer. Those kinds of plays come right to DE's and I guarantee that 14 out of the 15 were plays that came right to his side and he just beat the COLLEGE Lineman to get to the ball carrier.

We NEED pass rush..... he only had 3 sacks in COLLEGE. JA98 had MONSTER stats out of college, but he shows how hard it is to do the same in the NFL.

So we take a guy who could BARELY do it in College and expect him to add to our Pass Rush? I don't think so. If he can only manage 3 sacks against these weak college players, what do you think he will do in the NFL?

He plays the run GREAT, but we need somebody who is going to sack the QB. Ayers will struggle to do that in the NFL.

[muskokas finest ©]

Orakpo or Brown

[Clark Kent™]

Because Ayers and JA98 are very similar. TFL's doesn't mean pass rush. A RB can run it to the outside and the DE just makes a move upfield to tackle him. That takes almost nothing compared to what it takes to get to the passer. Those kinds of plays come right to DE's and I guarantee that 14 out of the 15 were plays that came right to his side and he just beat the COLLEGE Lineman to get to the ball carrier.

We NEED pass rush..... he only had 3 sacks in COLLEGE. JA98 had MONSTER stats out of college, but he shows how hard it is to do the same in the NFL.

So we take a guy who could BARELY do it in College and expect him to add to our Pass Rush? I don't think so. If he can only manage 3 sacks against these weak college players, what do you think he will do in the NFL?

He plays the run GREAT, but we need somebody who is going to sack the QB. Ayers will struggle to do that in the NFL.

They are not similar. Anderson is 3 inches taller and 10lbs heavier. You obviously have not watched him play if you think that he does not get pressure on the QB. You can guarantee anything cause you probably have never even watched a game! You made the comment that he will probably be a UT. If you think that then you obviously do not know anything about him to make ANY kind of assumption.

[hakim24]

They are not similar. Anderson is 3 inches taller and 10lbs heavier. You obviously have not watched him play if you think that he does not get pressure on the QB. You can guarantee anything cause you probably have never even watched a game! You made the comment that he will probably be a UT. If you think that then you obviously do not know anything about him to make ANY kind of assumption.

I have watched him some, but I mostly came up with my opinion. If you watched JA98 last year, you would have noticed that he was getting pretty decent pressure. The problem was, he wasn't getting sacks. Ayers has that SAME problem in COLLEGE!

I'm not saying they are the same height or weight. I am saying that the way they play is very similar.

Answer me this:

If I guy can only manage 3 sacks in college..... what makes you think he will improve a NFL teams' pass rush?

[Clark Kent™]

I have watched him some, but I mostly came up with my opinion. If you watched JA98 last year, you would have noticed that he was getting pretty decent pressure. The problem was, he wasn't getting sacks. Ayers has that SAME problem in COLLEGE!

I'm not saying they are the same height or weight. I am saying that the way they play is very similar.

Answer me this:

If I guy can only manage 3 sacks in college..... what makes you think he will improve a NFL teams' pass rush?

I watched Anderson a ton last year and i did not see him getting decent pressure. I don't see that their play is even that similar. I can understand how you would ask that question because it is a really good questions. I mean the normal person would probably agree with you, but having actually watched him play plenty of times and watched him dominate teams like he has i think he can improve his pass rush significantly with our coaching. Im not saying the guy is going to be a sack monster, but i think he will do JUST as good if not better than Andersen has done.