Polar Bear Jones Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 Will he start? We just resigned Chauncey are you ready to get rid of Jamal. So you are ready to throw away a number 8 pick for someone at number 24. Or are you going to have your number 8 pick sit on the bench. Then again you could have the number 24 pick sitting on the bench. There are other positions that do not have a clear starter. Now I am by no means a Jamal Anderson apologist and would not mind if TD were to go DE in the first but if he does Jamal has to go. I would love for TD to pull off a trade I have heard the argument that we can take the slow route and just bring in a guy to rush for passing downs. We are not that far along in the process were we can bring in situational players with our first round pick are we. We would have like three first round picks tied into one position. Hopefully TD can make a trade and get some picks for him or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#1$tunna Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 JA98 might not be a member of this team after training camp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFan13 Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 I would easily sit the #8 pick if he's not getting the job done. I don't care if your the #1 pick in the draft. Do your job or take a seat it's as simple as that. As far as taking a DE in the 1st if i see a guy thats a upgrade i don't have a problem taking them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zanka Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 I don't want us to draft a DE in the 1st round. I either want a TE(Pettigrew), LB(Sintim) or a S(Delmas)I would be happy with either of those positions in the 1st Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clark Kent™ Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 If we draft a DE in the 1st it doesn't neccesarily mean he will get the start. Im sure it will be a competition. I highly doubt we would let Andersen go. I know he has been somewhat of a bust to us, but he is nowhere near bad enough to release. He gives us good depth and is decent against the run. This year will probably be his defining year though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattM12 Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 JA98 might not be a member of this team after training camp.not...a chance...no way lol.Look at the ages of every DE, heights, weights etc, and you will realise that JA is still young, still big, still strong, and actually started to show some shine before concussion last year.DLine is about having fresh rotation and depth.no way is he getting cut this year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Zanzibar Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 Given our weakness against the run, and JA98 at the very least being pretty good in that aspect, I think at worst he would lose his starting spot at DE and be rotated with Babs at UT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaymadd Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 I hope everyone understand my obsession with getting a DE. I just dont want any DE, I want a highquality pass rushing DE, that has the ability to become an Evreydown DE with coaching on playing the run. If we do draft a Pass Rushing DE @ 24 he will have a great impact to our team on passing downs, helping us to get the needed pressure on the QB , and giving needed insurance just in case Abe gets injured. I dont think that we will sit or cut JA98 as longs as he proves his worth, but i do think he will be in on running downs alongs with DAvis. Adding a PASS RUSHING DE will help us out tremendously along the D-line, now all we need is another NT/DT and we will be good. By the Way Micheal Johnson is just that type of Player if you didnt know already Polar Bear :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick h Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 Making an impact goes beyond starting. Biermann didn't start last year neither did norwood or douglas, all three played a huge role though. If the new DE could come in and provide the pass rush that anderson and co. can't then no one will complain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Graziani Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 Making an impact goes beyond starting. Biermann didn't start last year neither did norwood or douglas, all three played a huge role though. If the new DE could come in and provide the pass rush that anderson and co. can't then no one will complainExactly. As much as our DL rotates, it really doesn't matter who gets the "start". As it has been said before, Raheem Brock "starts" for the Colts, but Mathis got like 11 or 12 sacks last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polar Bear Jones Posted April 1, 2009 Author Share Posted April 1, 2009 Making an impact goes beyond starting. Biermann didn't start last year neither did norwood or douglas, all three played a huge role though. If the new DE could come in and provide the pass rush that anderson and co. can't then no one will complainThat they did but they were not first round picks. Now the rule for QB's may be different but the first round pick should be on the field contributing and getting a majority of snaps on day one. The amount of money invested in them is to great. That is why I wonder if we go DE in the first what will happen to JA98. It just does not seem right to have 3 first round choices splitting time at the same position. You got to get rid of one of them especially if one has not proven his worth. If we are grooming Abes eventual replacement thats cool I would rather get a guy in the second or later so that he can be groomed and the expectation is not there. Maybe I was wrong when asking would they start. The way we rotate it does not really matter. The guy we draft has to get the majority of the snaps with Abe of course. I guess I am just scared no wait petrified that if the light comes on for JA98 we would have drafted a guy that is not needed. TD and the staff probably have projections for how they think he is progressing and will draft accordingly. Whoever we draft could also grow into Predator Jr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clark Kent™ Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 That they did but they were not first round picks. Now the rule for QB's may be different but the first round pick should be on the field contributing and getting a majority of snaps on day one. The amount of money invested in them is to great. That is why I wonder if we go DE in the first what will happen to JA98. It just does not seem right to have 3 first round choices splitting time at the same position. You got to get rid of one of them especially if one has not proven his worth. If we are grooming Abes eventual replacement thats cool I would rather get a guy in the second or later so that he can be groomed and the expectation is not there. Maybe I was wrong when asking would they start. The way we rotate it does not really matter. The guy we draft has to get the majority of the snaps with Abe of course. I guess I am just scared no wait petrified that if the light comes on for JA98 we would have drafted a guy that is not needed. TD and the staff probably have projections for how they think he is progressing and will draft accordingly. Whoever we draft could also grow into Predator Jr.I think we totally understand where you are coming from. I can see how it does not make much sense to some people to get another DE in the first rd, but like someone earlier said, dont matter what pick you are if you are not producing then grab some bench. Well what if Andersons "light" comes on and he starts playing? Well awesome then we will have an even better rotation, but thats still a pretty big if. Then you got to also think about how old is Abe? How many years he got left in him? Will he stay healthy this year? If he goes down who is going to get production at the ends? I am a FIRM FIRM FIRM believer in having very good depth in the front seven so i am a little biased i guess. Plus i love Ayers and English Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaymadd Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 That they did but they were not first round picks. Now the rule for QB's may be different but the first round pick should be on the field contributing and getting a majority of snaps on day one. The amount of money invested in them is to great. That is why I wonder if we go DE in the first what will happen to JA98. It just does not seem right to have 3 first round choices splitting time at the same position. You got to get rid of one of them especially if one has not proven his worth. If we are grooming Abes eventual replacement thats cool I would rather get a guy in the second or later so that he can be groomed and the expectation is not there. Maybe I was wrong when asking would they start. The way we rotate it does not really matter. The guy we draft has to get the majority of the snaps with Abe of course. I guess I am just scared no wait petrified that if the light comes on for JA98 we would have drafted a guy that is not needed. TD and the staff probably have projections for how they think he is progressing and will draft accordingly. Whoever we draft could also grow into Predator Jr.If we get a high quality pass rusher with pick 24 or 55, they will have an impact, mabye more of an impact than a starter. They would come in on passing downs to help get pressure on the QB along with Abe. Atljbo has put up this stat numerous times to show the game changing impact of a pass rushing specialistRobert Mathis of the Colts, came in majority of the time on passing downs and accumulated, Raheem Brock comes in on running downs.48 Tackles12 Sacks5 Forced Fumbles Voted to the Pro-bowl By the way Mathis is 6'2 245ARe you telling me that you would pass on these stats just because that player doesnt start Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattM12 Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 If we get a high quality pass rusher with pick 24 or 55, they will have an impact, mabye more of an impact than a starter. They would come in on passing downs to help get pressure on the QB along with Abe. Atljbo has put up this stat numerous times to show the game changing impact of a pass rushing specialistRobert Mathis of the Colts, came in majority of the time on passing downs and accumulated, Raheem Brock comes in on running downs.48 Tackles12 Sacks5 Forced Fumbles Voted to the Pro-bowl By the way Mathis is 6'2 245ARe you telling me that you would pass on these stats just because that player doesnt startgood point, but we need to be sold on a player before we draft him. I really think Kruger could be available at 55.. food for thought Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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