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By Chuck Baldwin

March 17, 2009

Thanks to a concerned Missouri state policeman, a nationally syndicated radio talk show host stated that he was alerted last week to a secret Missouri state police report that categorized supporters of Congressman Ron Paul, Bob Barr, and myself as "'militia' influenced terrorists." The report, he said, "instructs the Missouri police to be on the lookout for supporters displaying bumper stickers and other paraphernalia associated with the Constitutional, Campaign for Liberty, and Libertarian parties."

Ignoring the threat of Muslim terrorists, the Missouri Information Analysis Center (MIAC) report focuses on the so-called "militia movement" and "conflates it with supporters of Ron Paul, Chuck Baldwin, Bob Barr, the so-called patriot movement and other political activist organizations opposed to the North American Union and the New World Order."

This report is not original, of course. During the Clinton administration, a Phoenix Federal Bureau of Investigation and Joint Terrorism Task Force explicitly designated "defenders" of the Constitution as "right-wing extremists." However, the MIAC report significantly expands on earlier documents and is the first known document to actually name names.

According to the MIAC, opposition to world government, NAFTA, federalization of the states, and restrictive gun laws are a potential threat to the police. The MIAC report also refers to Aaron Russo's film, "America: Freedom to Fascism."

The story exposing the MIAC report states, "The MIAC report is particularly pernicious because it indoctrinates Missouri law enforcement in the belief that people who oppose confiscatory taxation, believe in the well-documented existence of a New World Order and world government (a Google search of this phrase will pull up numerous references made by scores of establishment political leaders), and are opposed to the obvious expansion of the federal government at the expense of the states as violent extremists who are gunning for the police. It specifically targets supporters of mainstream political candidates and encourages police officers to consider them dangerous terrorists."

The Columbia Daily Tribune also carried the story last Saturday. It quoted Missouri resident Tim Neal of Miller County. "When Neal read the report, he couldn't help but think it described him. A military veteran and a delegate to the 2008 Missouri Republican state convention, he didn't appreciate being lumped in with groups like the Neo-Nazis.

"'I was going down the list and thinking, "Check, that's me,"' he said. 'I'm a Ron Paul supporter, check. I talk about the North American union, check. I've got the "America: Freedom to Fascism" video loaned out to somebody right now. So that means I'm a domestic terrorist? Because I've got a video about the Federal Reserve?'"

The Tribune's report also acknowledges, "The [MIAC] report's most controversial passage states that militia 'most commonly associate with third-party political groups' and support presidential candidates such as Ron Paul, former Constitutional [sic] Party candidate Chuck Baldwin and Bob Barr, the Libertarian candidate last year."

The Tribune report also said, "Neal, who has a Ron Paul bumper sticker on his car, said the next time he is pulled over by a police officer, he won't know whether it's because he was speeding or because of his political views."

See the Columbia Tribune report here:

I realize that there are people who will dismiss this kind of story as insignificant. They shouldn't. This is very serious and should be treated as such. Anyone who knows anything at all about history knows that before a state or national government can persecute--and commit acts of violence against--a group of people, they must first marginalize the group from society's mainstream and categorize it as dangerous.

Rome did exactly that to Christians, as did Mao's China; Hitler's Germany did the same thing to Jews; Stalin's Russia did the same thing to political dissenters, etc. That a State police agency in America would actually infer that people who supported Ron Paul, Bob Barr, or myself in a political campaign are somehow indistinguishable from violence-prone "militias" is beyond insulting: it is a smear campaign, and might should even be regarded as a hate crime!

Beyond that, the MIAC report paints with a very broad brush. In addition to supporting Ron Paul, Bob Barr, or myself, a review of the report reveals that opposition to any of the following risks someone being classified as a potential "domestic terrorist":

The New World Order

The United Nations

Gun Control

The violation of Posse Comitatus

The Federal Reserve

The Income Tax

The Ammunition Accountability Act

A possible Constitutional Convention (Con Con)

The North American Union

Universal Service Program

Radio Frequency Identification (RFID)

Abortion on demand

Illegal Immigration

Again, if you oppose any of the above, or if you supported Ron Paul, Bob Barr, or myself, you risk being labeled a "domestic terrorist," according to the MIAC.

Do you not see how dangerous this kind of slanderous labeling can become? It could affect your flight status when you try to board an airline. It could affect your application for sensitive jobs. It could affect your adjudication before a court or judge. It could make you a target for aggressive law enforcement strategies. It could affect your being able to obtain a passport. It could affect one's ability to purchase a firearm or receive a State concealed weapon permit.

This is very serious business! We are not talking about private opinions. We are talking about law enforcement agencies. And remember, most law enforcement agencies share these types of reports; therefore, how many other state police agencies have similar reports floating around? Probably several. Plus, how do we know that this report was not influenced by federal police agencies? We don't.

Rest assured, I do not plan to take this lying down. As one who is personally named in the above report, I demand a public retraction and apology from the MIAC and Missouri State Police. I can tell you that my family is extremely distraught that their husband, father, and grandfather would be labeled in such a manner. I am also not ruling out legal action. In addition, I am discussing an appropriate response with Ron Paul and Bob Barr. I will keep readers posted as to what comes of these discussions (as I am at liberty to do so, of course).

In the meantime, I encourage everyone who believes in the freedom of speech and who believes that the MIAC report is an egregious miscarriage of justice to contact the appropriate Missouri police officials. Here is the contact information:

Email address: Brandon.middleton@mshp.dps.mo.gov

Missouri Information Analysis Center

Division of Drugs & Crime Control

P. O. Box 568

Jefferson City, MO 65102-0568

Phone: 573-751-6422

Toll Free: 866-362-6422

Fax: 573-751-9950

And lest one thinks that none of this concerns him or her, I would like to remind you of the lament of Martin Niemoeller back in the days of Hitler's Germany. Niemoeller was a decorated U-Boat Captain and pastor of great distinction. An avid anti-communist, Niemoeller at first supported Hitler's rise to power and was hesitant to oppose the violations of civil rights against various groups he personally found distasteful. It did not take long, however, before Niemoeller realized that when laws protecting the rights of all were removed from some, no one was safe--including him. Unfortunately, he learned his lesson too late, as he, too, was persecuted and imprisoned by Hitler's State Police. Here is what Niemoeller said about his indifference:

"They came first for the communists, and I did not speak up-

because I was not a communist;

And then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak up - because I was not a trade unionist;

And then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak up because I was not a Jew;

And then they came for me-and there was no one left to speak up."

So, those of you who think you have nothing to fear because you did not vote for Ron Paul, Bob Barr, or me, or because you do not live in the State of Missouri need to think again. As I have repeatedly said, we either have freedom for all, or we have freedom for none. Truly, secret police reports such as the one above threaten the liberties of us all.

So, will you speak up now or wait until they come for you and no one is left to speak up?

http://www.newswithviews.com/baldwin/baldwin498.htm

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Neither, I think it's a rather extreme move and an idiotic one at that

Care to elaborate? I don't see how that's the case with this one...

Cap, you realize this all started with Bush and the Office Of Homeland Security. You didn't think he was just eavesdropping on Muslims did you?? I would just like to state for the record I AM A CARD CARRYING PRO CHOICE DEMOCRAT WHO LOVES OUR COUNTRY AND OUR GOVERNMENT AND 100% SUPPORTS THE POLICIES OF OUR CURRENT ADMINISTRATION.

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there's no news here...anyone who knows Cappy knows he's been teetering this way for years now...I mean with his basement full of guns and munitions, and all of the MREs he's been procuring, he's viturally ready for a long drawn out Waco-esque standoff...personally, I'm putting my money on Cappy...his aim sucks, but his determination is pretty strong...he'll hit the target...eventually... :P ;)

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there's no news here...anyone who knows Cappy knows he's been teetering this way for years now...I mean with his basement full of guns and munitions, and all of the MREs he's been procuring, he's viturally ready for a long drawn out Waco-esque standoff...personally, I'm putting my money on Cappy...his aim sucks, but his determination is pretty strong...he'll hit the target...eventually... :P ;)

Hmmmm...gives me an idea for a whole new comedy routine..."You might be a domestic terrorist IF.........."

If your entire diet consists of MREs and bottled water...you might be a domestic terrorist.

If you and your wife exchanged his and hers riot gear for Christmas...you might be a domestic terrorist.

If the Irish Car Bomb you were mixing on St Paddy's Day actually blew up a car....you might be a domestic terrorist.

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Cap, you realize this all started with Bush and the Office Of Homeland Security. You didn't think he was just eavesdropping on Muslims did you?? I would just like to state for the record I AM A CARD CARRYING PRO CHOICE DEMOCRAT WHO LOVES OUR COUNTRY AND OUR GOVERNMENT AND 100% SUPPORTS THE POLICIES OF OUR CURRENT ADMINISTRATION.

Oh no doubt, the Patriot Act, etc. all of it is horrible--just never reported that us "constitutionalists" were militia...

And Ton--You weren't supposed to tell and now you just may know too much.... B)

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what does this have to do with obama. its about the modern militia movement. also SMH @ cap and the rest of the political nuts on the board. get your own forum.

What does this have to do with Obama? Department of Homeland Security Janet Napolitano--His appointment being okay with grouping constitutionalists with militia.

Shake your head now (Lord knows I did when I was your age). Get over 30ish and you'll care more too.

As for the forum--Anything But Football, it qualifies... :D

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What does this have to do with Obama? Department of Homeland Security Janet Napolitano--His appointment being okay with grouping constitutionalists with militia.

Shake your head now (Lord knows I did when I was your age). Get over 30ish and you'll care more too.

As for the forum--Anything But Football, it qualifies... :D

im trying to be nice and give you a forum for you and the other political fans. yall can talk politicals when yall want in your own forum. sounds fun, and leave ABF free from snak garbage. ummm his appointments are not yes men, so that does not mean he agrees with it or that his administration agrees it. only one guy agrees with it.

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im trying to be nice and give you a forum for you and the other political fans. yall can talk politicals when yall want in your own forum. sounds fun, and leave ABF free from snak garbage. ummm his appointments are not yes men, so that does not mean he agrees with it or that his administration agrees it. only one guy agrees with it.

great....so now a president is not responsible for the actions of his appointments.

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great....so now a president is not responsible for the actions of his appointments.

so i guess people cant have their own opinion. the dude has his own opinion. unless a majority of obama's admin agrees, then its false to put obama's admin. He is responsibile if they take action. the point of a cab is to bring who you consider the best or that will give you the best advice and make a sound decision because of their advice and what you think is right. Its not to be their yes man or them be yours.

and im not discussing with any1 else in this thread, because its already going in the direction of twisting words, which leads to attacks.

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so i guess people cant have their own opinion. the dude has his own opinion. unless a majority of obama's admin agrees, then its false to put obama's admin. He is responsibile if they take action. the point of a cab is to bring who you consider the best or that will give you the best advice and make a sound decision because of their advice and what you think is right. Its not to be their yes man or them be yours.

and im not discussing with any1 else in this thread, because its already going in the direction of twisting words, which leads to attacks.

Actuallly, all that is discussed before the appointment is made. The fact that she was appointed by Obama is his stamp of approval...

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Actuallly, all that is discussed before the appointment is made. The fact that she was appointed by Obama is his stamp of approval...

that isnt necessarily true....its been apparent that those staff members that were in charge of investigating his appointments didnt exactly do their job so GEORGIAban may have a point :lol:

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Actuallly, all that is discussed before the appointment is made. The fact that she was appointed by Obama is his stamp of approval...

her getting appointed means that he believes she will give him the best advice on the topic of homeland security if he were to act on her ideas, then you would have an argument. she has only stated her opinion. she has not even acted on it. I think Government sucks, but you dont see me trying to burn down the capitol.

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