Dr. Zanzibar Posted March 22, 2009 Share Posted March 22, 2009 Alot of people have become turned onto the idea of drafting Michael Johnson in the first, while others still demand us draft Cushing, Matthews and even Laurenitis.Since LB and DE are still needs for us, maybe we should compromise. Since I think project LB and project DE are pretty deep in this draft, if we make Cushing, Matthews or Laurenitis a Falcon in the first, let's trade one of our 5th rounders to go up in the 4th and get Kyle Moore from USC as a project DE and if we draft MJ in the first, lets trade up in the fourth and get Zack Follet from Cal.What do you say to that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clark Kent™ Posted March 22, 2009 Share Posted March 22, 2009 Alot of people have become turned onto the idea of drafting Michael Johnson in the first, while others still demand us draft Cushing, Matthews and even Laurenitis.Since LB and DE are still needs for us, maybe we should compromise. Since I think project LB and project DE are pretty deep in this draft, if we make Cushing, Matthews or Laurenitis a Falcon in the first, let's trade one of our 5th rounders to go up in the 4th and get Kyle Moore from USC as a project DE and if we draft MJ in the first, lets trade up in the fourth and get Zack Follet from Cal.What do you say to that?I wouldnt have a problem with that at all. After watching the tape on Cushing and Matthews i think i like Matthews better. He seems a little bit more smooth and fluent then Cush and he has a pop to his hits. I also watched Follet too. He looked really good too. Not sure about Kyle Moore, but i like the other guys and the idea of trading one of our 5ths. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalfaninNY Posted March 22, 2009 Share Posted March 22, 2009 why does every one claim we need a DE we have jamal anderson!!!! He has not been a huge threat like Abraham has been however he is emerging. Several falcons have taken two to three seasons to emerge as play makers. Besides if we take a tackle that allows both DE to be more physical and able to get to the QB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clark Kent™ Posted March 22, 2009 Share Posted March 22, 2009 lol at this thread. really? ur making a deal with fans about the draft like we have a say? hahahahaha.He was throwing out an idea about the draft. WTF you talkin about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Zanzibar Posted March 22, 2009 Author Share Posted March 22, 2009 Of course we have no say about the draft, but forum-wise, it is an idea to calm down people who think it is the end of the world if we don't draft THEIR specific position person in the first round, that there are good project DE and project OLB's we can go after later.I think Kyle Moore could be a beast training under Abraham. He seemed to not have reached his potential at USC, who brought him all the way from Georgia.Then again, USC does seem to be known more for linebackers than for Defensive Ends... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconsfan8412502 Posted March 22, 2009 Share Posted March 22, 2009 i really am not high on micheal johnson. i think olb dT or s is the way to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Zanzibar Posted March 22, 2009 Author Share Posted March 22, 2009 i really am not high on micheal johnson. i think olb dT or s is the way to go.Even before the season I was never high on this year's safety class, moreso now that Taylor Mays is out. I think 2010 is a great year to draft a safety.But either way, there are some talented LBs and DEs in the later rounds who could make you pretty happy if you have the personnel to develop them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconBlood Posted March 22, 2009 Share Posted March 22, 2009 We're giving Anderson one more year to prove himself, and he has to compete with Chauncey Davis to do it... Davis, if given the snaps could be an 8+ sack guy this year... That's not bad at all... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nerdy Bird Posted March 22, 2009 Share Posted March 22, 2009 Why would we waste our first pick on a DE? We have Abe, Bierman, just resigned Chauncey and Anderson. Not sure if this position really requires a first rounder. We should concentrate of DT or our secondary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaymadd Posted March 22, 2009 Share Posted March 22, 2009 Alot of people have become turned onto the idea of drafting Michael Johnson in the first, while others still demand us draft Cushing, Matthews and even Laurenitis.Since LB and DE are still needs for us, maybe we should compromise. Since I think project LB and project DE are pretty deep in this draft, if we make Cushing, Matthews or Laurenitis a Falcon in the first, let's trade one of our 5th rounders to go up in the 4th and get Kyle Moore from USC as a project DE and if we draft MJ in the first, lets trade up in the fourth and get Zack Follet from Cal.What do you say to that?MJ in the first and dont trade up to get a LB when there is alot of depth when it comes to LB in this draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Zanzibar Posted March 22, 2009 Author Share Posted March 22, 2009 MJ in the first and dont trade up to get a LB when there is alot of depth when it comes to LB in this draft.Yeah but we also might want to snag a TE and a CB, in the second and third, because I don't like those position's depth.Also I'm not convinced Zach Follet will be around for our fourth rounder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dem Birds Posted March 22, 2009 Share Posted March 22, 2009 We already have a project DE in Beirmann, who I think has tons of upside. I know we need pass rush, but I think we need interior pass rush. We need a DT that can stop the run and pass rush. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwaG FactorY EnT Posted March 22, 2009 Share Posted March 22, 2009 I f we get any LB at all it should be the 4th or 5th roundWe need a DT or DE the reason I say "or" DE is because JA98 can be moved to DT if need be. so I would say Draft Peria (DT) or Connor Barwin with our 24 pick. Connor Barwin is mad quick and we may be able to pick him up in the 2nd round. He could play linebacker as well which would be very useful especially since we use the 335 nickel package. That allows us to line up in a standard 425 set and have him drop back as a linebacker into the (335) with Babs in the middle and JA55 and JA98 on either side of him. Confusion is a great asset on D and I think Connor Barwin would definitely be an asset to our teamIf we could get him in the second round we could pick up Pettigrew in the first, maybe a LB in the third or Asher Allen a lightning quick CB out of UGASay no to LB's in the first round unless its a Larry English type who is essentially a DE/LB as well or Orakpo but I think we all know those players wil be gone with the wind by the time we pick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaymadd Posted March 22, 2009 Share Posted March 22, 2009 Yeah but we also might want to snag a TE and a CB, in the second and third, because I don't like those position's depth.Also I'm not convinced Zach Follet will be around for our fourth rounder.Even if he is not around we can still get a LB to develop, that may be just a good or even better down the road. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Zanzibar Posted March 22, 2009 Author Share Posted March 22, 2009 Even if he is not around we can still get a LB to develop, that may be just a good or even better down the road.Yeah but we need starters at this point, not guys who we develop for two years like we did Nicholas. I think it is risky to wait too long to pick up a LB. If we want true project guy we might as well wait till next year to pick up a LB who can come in as a starter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaymadd Posted March 22, 2009 Share Posted March 22, 2009 Yeah but we need starters at this point, not guys who we develop for two years like we did Nicholas. I think it is risky to wait too long to pick up a LB. If we want true project guy we might as well wait till next year to pick up a LB who can come in as a starter.What LB that we draft would be a starter over what we have now, and it doesnt matter what round you pick them in. Even if we get Matthew he still wont be a starter. He played great one-year, he does have alot of upside, but he played with his hands down alot at USC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Zanzibar Posted March 22, 2009 Author Share Posted March 22, 2009 What LB that we draft would be a starter over what we have now, and it doesnt matter what round you pick them in. Even if we get Matthew he still wont be a starter. He played great one-year, he does have alot of upside, but he played with his hands down alot at USC.So you don't think that Cushing, Matthews, or Laurenitis could start over Coy Wire or Mike Peterson? Seriously?We started Lofton at MLB as a rookie, and released two starters in the off-season. I doubt that we pass up drafting a LB who has starter potential, and I doubt we don't give them a chance to compete for the starter spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaymadd Posted March 22, 2009 Share Posted March 22, 2009 So you don't think that Cushing, Matthews, or Laurenitis could start over Coy Wire or Mike Peterson? Seriously?We started Lofton at MLB as a rookie, and released two starters in the off-season. I doubt that we pass up drafting a LB who has starter potential, and I doubt we don't give them a chance to compete for the starter spot.No I dont think they will start their first year, they will not beat them out. We had Tony Tiller(sp) as our MLB going into the training camp, so I think that chances of Lofton beating him out were pretty high. Cushing was a two down LB at USCMatthews had one great year, and played with his hands down JL (if he can prove to has the coverage speed needed at OLB, has the best chance to start)You have to remember that Rookies wont have a chance to go to the Voluntary Workouts this offseaon. The players on our roster would have had a chance already to start playing together getting some reps at there prosepctive spots. I think that the starters will bePeterson - Lofton - Nicholas, with Wire fighting for a spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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