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Everybody is wetting themselves about Allen's 4.33 forty (he's still a smurf that struggled to cover SEC wideouts), but how about Dannell Ellerbe. He checked in at an impressive 6'1" and 237 lbs. That's good size for him, I know that many sites had him at 5'11" and in the 225-230 lb range (which is a little wiry, even for a Cover 2 WILL).

While I think his explosiveness should make him a little bit better of a tackler than he was at UGA (especially after the injury last year), on the whole I think he has a really impressive skill set. Ellerbe is one of the better coverage linebackers I've ever seen, and knows how to come quick and get small on the blitz to get after the passer. Not putting a forty time on record doesn't help his draft status, as many may be concerned about the condition of his knee. TD took Baker and James last year, despite injury histories that caused many personnel men to red flag them.

As a late round pick, I think Ellerbe would be a great compliment to our linebacker corps, as he could probably compete with Robert James for the backup WILL spot, and also cross-train and compete with Gilbert for the backup MIKE spot. I'm pretty sure BVG was still at UGA when Ellerbe and Eddie Curran were both being recruited, so there should be some familiarity there. Ellerbe having played 3 seasons under Willie Martinez' Cover schemes means there will be some definate familiarity from his perspective.

Could be ineteresting, can't wait to see if TD keeps the UGA streak going for a fourth straight draft.

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Ellerbe did well, but your remarks about Asher Allen are off-base, imo.

Nope, he struggled and yes, I was mentioning Ellerbe earlier in a thread. I would love to have him of all the UGA players. Only because we don't need Moreno of course. As far as Asher, he does struggle against SEC receivers and he is badly overrated as a CB. I see him as a return specialist maybe and a guy that might develop into a nickel back.

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Nope, he struggled and yes, I was mentioning Ellerbe earlier in a thread. I would love to have him of all the UGA players. Only because we don't need Moreno of course. As far as Asher, he does struggle against SEC receivers and he is badly overrated as a CB. I see him as a return specialist maybe and a guy that might develop into a nickel back.

show me the games where he struggled.. asher allen didn't come close to struggling.. often he was ignored because people didn't throw on him.. they hit our slot or went after prince miller's guy (goodness I am not looking forward to this coming year). you can say he didn't make a lot of ints, but there is nothing to back up he struggled against sec wideouts.. he is a very physical corner who supports the run very well... even with last year's lack of pressure by the Dline he did very well.. Ellerbe can't be judged based on his play last year due to the injuries.. he wasn't healthy the 2nd half of the year.. ellerbe is very good and was one of the best in the sec before he was hurt last year.

Other guys that helped themselves at the pro day were kenneth harris who went from undrafted to a 6th/7th round possible pick and cj byrd did as well. Thanks to stafford's throwing session being the last thing that was done all those pro scouts got to see the other players not named moreno and stafford and it helped a number of players.

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I like Ellerbe as a fourth round pick. Can you guys tell me about the DT coming out of UGA? Is he quick enough to make a difference in the NFL? Can he shut down the run?

If ellerbe is healthy he is a 3rd round pick at the latest.. he was all-sec and one of the best in the country at his spot before he was hurt. Irvin is very strong and he is very quick. He stepped in at DT and was huge for us last year. Rodney Garner who is one of the best talked about his skills and how well they will translate to the nfl game. He is a guy that I would take in round 4/5 depending on a team's needs.

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I agree, inconsistent pass rush and poor Safety play did hurt Allen, but I just don't think 5'9" corners can be anything but dominant and succeed in the NFL (see Corey Ivy, Ike Charleston, and Brent Grimes for a few examples).

How about CJ Byrd, though. He is not a great player, but he had a good forty, and a 41" Vertical. That's impressive and might get him drafted in the 6th/7th round as a project or special teamer.

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Asher Allen struggled????? That is way off. Prince Miller struggled, Remarcus Brown was TERRIBLE. Allen played well. I'm not sure what games you guys were watching. Byrd played solid at S but the other S position was below average at best all year. And zero pash rush didn't help either.

But I do agree that 5'9 5/8 is a little on the short side for a #1 or #2 NFL corner. He would be a very good nickel back. Eventhough, he is short, he is 190lbs. and is very physical for his size.

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I agree, inconsistent pass rush and poor Safety play did hurt Allen, but I just don't think 5'9" corners can be anything but dominant and succeed in the NFL (see Corey Ivy, Ike Charleston, and Brent Grimes for a few examples).

How about CJ Byrd, though. He is not a great player, but he had a good forty, and a 41" Vertical. That's impressive and might get him drafted in the 6th/7th round as a project or special teamer.

CJ Byrd was a very good player for UGA, but he wasn't a great player.. He could be a guy who is better at the next level than he was in college.. the guy has it all physically and he didn't make many mistakes in the defensive backfield.

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By the way, here are C.Houston's combine numbers from 2007.

Chris Houston Arkansas 5-9 185 4.32 Ran the fastest 40 for defensive backs. Benched 225 lbs. 27 times. Vertical of 36 inches. Went from the second round to No. 2 corner in this class.

asher's height is not a problem.. he has a good vertical leap and is very strong.. that won't stop him being from a very good corner in the nfl.. there are plenty of corners such as dj moore that are even shorter that are ranked very high.

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CJ Byrd was a very good player for UGA, but he wasn't a great player.. He could be a guy who is better at the next level than he was in college.. the guy has it all physically and he didn't make many mistakes in the defensive backfield.

Byrd didn't have alot of starting experience if I remember correctly. But he is very physically gifted. I wouldn't mind if the Falcons picked up a guy like him late and started Decoud along side of Coleman.

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asher's height is not a problem.. he has a good vertical leap and is very strong.. that won't stop him being from a very good corner in the nfl.. there are plenty of corners such as dj moore that are even shorter that are ranked very high.

5'9" and some change is a little short, but I agree that he can be a very solid CB in the NFL. What I always liked about him was that he was very physical at the LOS. Unlike Foxworth or DHall or Grimes.

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Byrd didn't have alot of starting experience if I remember correctly. But he is very physically gifted. I wouldn't mind if the Falcons picked up a guy like him late and started Decoud along side of Coleman.

same here.. at worst give him a udfa deal.. we have a need at safety and we could get someone with some nice upside..

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5'9" and some change is a little short, but I agree that he can be a very solid CB in the NFL. What I always liked about him was that he was very physical at the LOS. Unlike Foxworth or DHall or Grimes.

that is the one thing I love about asher allen.. he is a very physical corner who does a great job of supporting the run defense.

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Here are some of the officials for the Dawg players.. Knowshon's official time was 4.58..

Player______Ht_____Wt__Vrt_Broad_225_10_20__40___20sh_60sh__L-drill

Allen_______5-9____195_IND__IND__IND_155_257_4.39_IND__IND___IND_

Brown_______5-11___179_35___10-4_13__156_259_4.41_DNP__DNP___DNP_

Byrd________6-2____202_41___10-4_19__156_256_4.38_4.07_11.69_6.76_

Chandler____6-5____270_31____9-2_DNP_178_287_4.92_4.69_DNP___7.47_

Ellerbe_____6-1____237_IND__IND__DNP_164_268_4.62_4.17_IND___6.93_

Goodman_____6-2.5__189_35___10-9_DNP_163_259_4.53_4.10_11.71_6.97_

Harris______6-2.5__205_39___10-6_12__160_265_4.54_4.25_11.12_6.95_

Irvin_______6-3____302_25____8-7_24__181_296_4.97_4.63_DNP___7.45_

Lomax_______6-4____251_35____9-6_DNP_169_288_4.80_4.52_DNP___7.29_

Massaquoi___6-1.5__207_IND__10-7_DNP_157_262_4.50_4.12_11.36_6.87_

Moreno______5-10.5_210_IND__IND__IND_158_268_4.58_IND__IND___IND_

Southerland_6-0____245_IND__IND__IND_IND_IND_IND__IND__IND___IND_

Stafford____6-2.5__225_IND__IND__IND_IND_IND_IND__IND__IND___IND_

Wynn________6-3____272_29____9-5_21__169_284_4.87_4.50_

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While Allen may be one of the more physical 5'9" corners around, Brent Grimes displayed very similar athleticism and simply got outmanned by the much taller recievers he faced starting for us the first month and a half of the season.

each player is different.. comparing one player to another due to height doesn't mean much.. it's like saying ryan leaf came out he had a strong arm and was going to be like elway.. asher reminds me of that cb for philly who was very effective for years and was 5'9 (actually a bit shorter than that)..

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i like Ellerbe alot. But we have several WLB types on our roster. Nicholas, Wire & James for starters. Not to mention peterson can play that spot well. Where we are hurting is the SLB spot. Other than Peterson (and Lofton in college) who the heck do we have who can play in traffic and take on guards.

I keep seeing Barwin or Sintim as the pick due to their size and rushing ability. If we draft Ellerbe it means that James is still an injury risk and will be a STs pick.

Allen is interesting as a 3rd cb. I could see Houston and Jackson starting with Allen and Grimes rounding out the nickel and dime spots.

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