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Just thinking about this one. Cutler looks to be on the outs. Even the Broncos owner said it looks like we will loose him. Cutler wants out. A new team needs some draft picks. And likely, some money, because he will want a new contract for what he has done, and likely doesn't want to stay on his rook contract if he doesn't have to. And next, you will likely need a new coach, or one on the hot seat. The New coach sets up his QB (considering what the QB crop looks like in the draft now), or the coach on the hot seat. New coach: Morris in TB, Schwartz in Detroit, maybe Mangini in Cleveland, Mora Jr. in Seattle, Haley in KC (not likely, but an option), or Spags in St. Louis.

OR the coaches with very little to lose because they are about to be out of job: Childress in Minnesota, Del Rio in Jacksonville, Lovie Smith in Chicago, or something like that.

Those are teams that should be interested in the trade. The ones who would actually make the trade, who have the money for a contract extension, and the ones who either want to create their own team on their first year or those willing to trade those draft picks limits the number down.

Basically, Morris has shown to make the unusual trade, they have loads of money, and lord knows they haven't had a long term QB in years. We might have to realize there is a possibility (a reasonable one) that Tampa brings in Cutler. And it might be a problem.

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i hate to think of this but what about if cutler went to carolina... i could see a trophy coming there soon. he has a great arm but alittle to cocky to me. but if any team could use him its definitely the panthers

other options i see: st. louis, san fran, jets, or maybe TB

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i hate to think of this but what about if cutler went to carolina... i could see a trophy coming there soon. he has a great arm but alittle to cocky to me. but if any team could use him its definitely the panthers

other options i see: st. louis, san fran, jets, or maybe TB

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Detroit needs to work something out quick. Cutler is a proven QB. They should trade the #1 overall and maybe a 2nd next year. That should be about right. Could Denver be on the clock? They have to take Stafford right? He is a lot like Cutler in many ways. He isn't a cry baby though.

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min would give up alot for him i bet.... dont think they would bite like they did for cowboys when they traded for h walker though, but would give alot i bet

min would love this guy.. too bad its not up to cutler where he goes. he could go nowhere, or to the highest bidder. which will probably be det.

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i dont see detroit going for him... just my opinion. but if they offered the 1st over all and a 2010 2nd denver would be stupid not to take that. but if they selected first i would have to think stafford would be their pick and being a bulldog fan i would love stafford to go anywhere but detroit i want to watch him for yrs. i think detroit will be ok with cullpepper this yr and stafford next yr. i think denver will do anything they can to keep him just because he is the only chance they have of winning anything, changing their D and everything

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Why would Denver take the first overall pick? Unless they really wanted Stafford, the only thing left is LT's (which they do not need), and maybe Curry. No one wants to trade for the 1st overall, that amount of money is ridiculous.

That's why Tampa is the better target. They give up their first, and some other picks. Carolina's first pick is deep in the 2nd if I remember right. Detroit's 2nd, 3rd, and 2nd next year would be solid trade for both sides.

But we should be thinking about teams in our division (most likely Tampa) trying to pick up Cutler.

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By Chris Mortensen

ESPN.com

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Denver Broncos quarterback Jay Cutler said Sunday night that he will not report to the team's first meeting on Monday and has formally asked to be traded. He confirmed that a Saturday meeting with first-year coach Josh McDaniels ended badly from his perspective while McDaniels offered another viewpoint on Sunday night.

"I went in there with every intention of solving the issue, being a Bronco, moving forward as a Bronco," said Cutler. "We weren't in there but about 20 minutes, [McDaniels] did most of the talking and as far as I'm concerned, he made it clear he wants his own guy. He admitted he wanted Matt Cassel because he said he has raised him up from the ground as a quarterback. He said he wasn't sorry about it. He made it clear that he could still entertain trading me because, as he put it, he'll do whatever he feels is in the best interest of the organization.

AFC West blog

ESPN.com's Bill Williamson writes about all things AFC West in his division blog.

• Blog network: NFL Nation

"At the end of the meeting, he wasn't like, 'Jay, I want you as our quarterback, you're our guy.' It felt like the opposite. He basically said that I needed to tell him if we can't work this out, to let him know. I thought he was antagonizing me and that was disappointing because I was ready to move on, committed as a Bronco. Really, I figured we'd hash things out, shake hands, laugh a little and move forward. What happened [saturday] was the last thing I expected. If I didn't think it could be fixed, I never would have come back to Denver. It was painfully obvious to me and Bus [Cook, his agent] it's not something they want to fix."

Consequently, Cutler instructed Cook, who also attended the meeting, to formally request a trade. The quarterback said he left town late Sunday and would skip McDaniels' first team meeting on Monday as they begin their off-season program.

Broncos owner Pat Bowlen told the Denver Post on Sunday that he was disappointed with how Cutler has handled the situation. In a telephone interview with ESPN, McDaniels was reluctantly expansive on the story.

"I realy have wanted to avoided a he-said, she-said thing but it's only fair for us to present the Bronco side of the story rather than let things get taken out of context," said McDaniels. "There's been a pattern here for the past two weeks the way things [have been represented] in our communications. I don't think anythng that happened [saturday] was out of the ordinary. At the end of the meeting, Jay said he had thought about things quite a bit and requested a few more hours to mull things over. He said he wanted to talk to Bus on how to proceed. He was gonna call me on my cell phone and that never happened. Instead, Bus called [GM] Brian [Xanders].

"Again, I think that's been a pattern. I couldn't get [Cutler] to talk to me for two weeks or to talk to Mr. Bowlen. Then when he came here this weekend, we couldn't get a one-on-one meeting, just me and him alone. He wanted Bus in there, so I had Brian sit in, too. And it was the four of us, there wasn't any yelling, none of that. I can't believe we get to a totally different [interpretation].

"It's an unfortunate set of circumstances that has cropped up, a potential distraction and we've done our best to limit that. The main message I want to get out is that we're excited to start our off-season program [Monday]. It's an exciting time for us."

Cutler won't be present at the team meeting.

"I certainly went back there, expecting I'd be there [Monday] but not now," said Cutler. "It's not mandatory. I'll attend every mandatory mini-camp and training camp but that's it. Really, it's best for me to move on. As coach said, he needs every eye in the meeting room to be on him and not me."

As McDaniels pointed out, Cutler had a completely different expectation when he left their private meeting on Saturday.

Cutler said, "You know, even after the meeting, I hung around town, kind of expecting him to call me and say, 'Hey, let's just me and you get away and have lunch or a cup of coffee' and mend things but that didn't happen. So, I get it, really, it's a business. I'm disappointed beause I love being a Bronco but I think it's run its course."

Cutler denied recent reports that he had asked to be traded when the Broncos fired offensive coordinator Jeremy Bates.

"Yes, I was upset when they let Jeremy go because Mr. Bowlen had assured me when Mike [shanahan] was fired that the offense wouldn't change because [it] was the second-ranked offense in football," said Cutler. "But I didn't push for a trade then."

McDaniels and Cutler agreed on at least one element of the controversy, knocking down a Sunday report on NFL Network that the coach had criticized the quarterback's play in 2008.

"That just isn't true," said McDaniels. "Not a word has been said about that."

Cutler added, "Josh has never said anything negative to me about my play or anything else, for that matter."

McDaniels admitted that the team got involved in trade discussions for Cassel, who instead was dealt to the Kansas City Chiefs. However, he said any perception Cutler felt that the team could still trade him was misleading.

"That's what we have communicated ever since the deal with Cassel didn't happen," said McDaniels. "Other teams have called but we're not interested in getting draft picks for Jay. I never made a statement [saturday] that 'you can be traded at any time.' They asked a question and I told them it was the time of year when people inquire about your team. Your job, as a head coach and general manager, is to listen and not bypass any opportunity to help your team improve. I think most people [in the NFL] feel the same way. You make smart, educated decisions that are best for your football team."

Cutler feels like McDaniels lost his credibility with him when he initially denied to the quarterback that the Broncos tried to acquire Cassel only to admit it later.

"Before this trade for Cassel thing ever came up, in the two weeks or so I had spent with McDaniels, he was basically telling me that he came to Denver because he wanted to coach me and that we needed to trust each other," said Cutler. "He's never been critical to me. But trust now? How can I trust him now?"

He also explained that his house being placed for sale on the market was "nothing more than a coincidence."

"I had already shown my house privately to some interested buyers a couple of months ago," said Cutler. "I've really been looking to buy 40 to 70 acres of land there."

As for ignoring phone calls from McDaniels and Bowlen, Cutler said, "Josh and I have exchanged text messages. We had a conference call. And if Pat wanted to speak to me, why didn't he come to the meeting on Saturday?"

Cook said that as an agent he was "totally in shock" that it has gotten so ugly.

"I would have bet my house going into Saturday's meeting that everyone would be shaking hands and smiling," said Cook. "I thought it was going to get worked out. But it was very clear to me that Jay Cutler is not their choice to be quarterback of that team."

Yet Cook admitted that when he called Xanders to request a trade on Saturday night, the team's general manager said it wasn't going to happen and that "Jay should show up Monday."

That wasn't going to happen, either.

Chris Mortensen is a senior NFL analyst for ESPN.

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By Chris Mortensen

ESPN.com

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Denver Broncos quarterback Jay Cutler said Sunday night that he will not report to the team's first meeting on Monday and has formally asked to be traded. He confirmed that a Saturday meeting with first-year coach Josh McDaniels ended badly from his perspective while McDaniels offered another viewpoint on Sunday night.

"I went in there with every intention of solving the issue, being a Bronco, moving forward as a Bronco," said Cutler. "We weren't in there but about 20 minutes, [McDaniels] did most of the talking and as far as I'm concerned, he made it clear he wants his own guy. He admitted he wanted Matt Cassel because he said he has raised him up from the ground as a quarterback. He said he wasn't sorry about it. He made it clear that he could still entertain trading me because, as he put it, he'll do whatever he feels is in the best interest of the organization.

AFC West blog

ESPN.com's Bill Williamson writes about all things AFC West in his division blog.

• Blog network: NFL Nation

"At the end of the meeting, he wasn't like, 'Jay, I want you as our quarterback, you're our guy.' It felt like the opposite. He basically said that I needed to tell him if we can't work this out, to let him know. I thought he was antagonizing me and that was disappointing because I was ready to move on, committed as a Bronco. Really, I figured we'd hash things out, shake hands, laugh a little and move forward. What happened [saturday] was the last thing I expected. If I didn't think it could be fixed, I never would have come back to Denver. It was painfully obvious to me and Bus [Cook, his agent] it's not something they want to fix."

Consequently, Cutler instructed Cook, who also attended the meeting, to formally request a trade. The quarterback said he left town late Sunday and would skip McDaniels' first team meeting on Monday as they begin their off-season program.

Broncos owner Pat Bowlen told the Denver Post on Sunday that he was disappointed with how Cutler has handled the situation. In a telephone interview with ESPN, McDaniels was reluctantly expansive on the story.

"I realy have wanted to avoided a he-said, she-said thing but it's only fair for us to present the Bronco side of the story rather than let things get taken out of context," said McDaniels. "There's been a pattern here for the past two weeks the way things [have been represented] in our communications. I don't think anythng that happened [saturday] was out of the ordinary. At the end of the meeting, Jay said he had thought about things quite a bit and requested a few more hours to mull things over. He said he wanted to talk to Bus on how to proceed. He was gonna call me on my cell phone and that never happened. Instead, Bus called [GM] Brian [Xanders].

"Again, I think that's been a pattern. I couldn't get [Cutler] to talk to me for two weeks or to talk to Mr. Bowlen. Then when he came here this weekend, we couldn't get a one-on-one meeting, just me and him alone. He wanted Bus in there, so I had Brian sit in, too. And it was the four of us, there wasn't any yelling, none of that. I can't believe we get to a totally different [interpretation].

"It's an unfortunate set of circumstances that has cropped up, a potential distraction and we've done our best to limit that. The main message I want to get out is that we're excited to start our off-season program [Monday]. It's an exciting time for us."

Cutler won't be present at the team meeting.

"I certainly went back there, expecting I'd be there [Monday] but not now," said Cutler. "It's not mandatory. I'll attend every mandatory mini-camp and training camp but that's it. Really, it's best for me to move on. As coach said, he needs every eye in the meeting room to be on him and not me."

As McDaniels pointed out, Cutler had a completely different expectation when he left their private meeting on Saturday.

Cutler said, "You know, even after the meeting, I hung around town, kind of expecting him to call me and say, 'Hey, let's just me and you get away and have lunch or a cup of coffee' and mend things but that didn't happen. So, I get it, really, it's a business. I'm disappointed beause I love being a Bronco but I think it's run its course."

Cutler denied recent reports that he had asked to be traded when the Broncos fired offensive coordinator Jeremy Bates.

"Yes, I was upset when they let Jeremy go because Mr. Bowlen had assured me when Mike [shanahan] was fired that the offense wouldn't change because [it] was the second-ranked offense in football," said Cutler. "But I didn't push for a trade then."

McDaniels and Cutler agreed on at least one element of the controversy, knocking down a Sunday report on NFL Network that the coach had criticized the quarterback's play in 2008.

"That just isn't true," said McDaniels. "Not a word has been said about that."

Cutler added, "Josh has never said anything negative to me about my play or anything else, for that matter."

McDaniels admitted that the team got involved in trade discussions for Cassel, who instead was dealt to the Kansas City Chiefs. However, he said any perception Cutler felt that the team could still trade him was misleading.

"That's what we have communicated ever since the deal with Cassel didn't happen," said McDaniels. "Other teams have called but we're not interested in getting draft picks for Jay. I never made a statement [saturday] that 'you can be traded at any time.' They asked a question and I told them it was the time of year when people inquire about your team. Your job, as a head coach and general manager, is to listen and not bypass any opportunity to help your team improve. I think most people [in the NFL] feel the same way. You make smart, educated decisions that are best for your football team."

Cutler feels like McDaniels lost his credibility with him when he initially denied to the quarterback that the Broncos tried to acquire Cassel only to admit it later.

"Before this trade for Cassel thing ever came up, in the two weeks or so I had spent with McDaniels, he was basically telling me that he came to Denver because he wanted to coach me and that we needed to trust each other," said Cutler. "He's never been critical to me. But trust now? How can I trust him now?"

He also explained that his house being placed for sale on the market was "nothing more than a coincidence."

"I had already shown my house privately to some interested buyers a couple of months ago," said Cutler. "I've really been looking to buy 40 to 70 acres of land there."

As for ignoring phone calls from McDaniels and Bowlen, Cutler said, "Josh and I have exchanged text messages. We had a conference call. And if Pat wanted to speak to me, why didn't he come to the meeting on Saturday?"

Cook said that as an agent he was "totally in shock" that it has gotten so ugly.

"I would have bet my house going into Saturday's meeting that everyone would be shaking hands and smiling," said Cook. "I thought it was going to get worked out. But it was very clear to me that Jay Cutler is not their choice to be quarterback of that team."

Yet Cook admitted that when he called Xanders to request a trade on Saturday night, the team's general manager said it wasn't going to happen and that "Jay should show up Monday."

That wasn't going to happen, either.

Chris Mortensen is a senior NFL analyst for ESPN.

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i think denver are stupid for wanting cassel over cutler... cassel sucks!!! i think he will do terrible this yr in kansas city. my goodness!! he had the best WR corp good line heck the team went 16-1 the yr before!!! i would look like a probowler for them too!! give me cutler or cassel any day

mort just said cutler requested a trade and he will not go to team workouts

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Pray to whom ever y'all pray to that the bucs don't get him. :)

Dear Galzers:

You will never give up that money, even though you have to. Cutler can't play soccer. McCowan is the future. (Is that his name? Maybe it's McGowan. Either way, it's not important to teams that play you).

Thank you. As always,

your wallet.

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i think denver are stupid for wanting cassel over cutler... cassel sucks!!! i think he will do terrible this yr in kansas city. my goodness!! he had the best WR corp good line heck the team went 16-1 the yr before!!! i would look like a probowler for them too!! give me cutler or cassel any day

mort just said cutler requested a trade and he will not go to team workouts

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Detroit needs to work something out quick. Cutler is a proven QB. They should trade the #1 overall and maybe a 2nd next year. That should be about right. Could Denver be on the clock? They have to take Stafford right? He is a lot like Cutler in many ways. He isn't a cry baby though.

You kidding me? Adding a 2nd rounder for Cutler? Look, Detroit has the power in this trade. They may want Cutler but they can always go Stafford or Sanchez. Denver can't and Cutler is not going to play for that team.

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