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It takes some time and effort to do a mock off season and a full first round. I do respect you for putting in the work. Now to the fun part.

I don't like the thought of the teams first two picks being on offense. There are some talented defensive players to be had in the first two rounds. I do however like the Pettigrew pick. I won't be dissapointed if he goes sooner because the TE position is loaded with Cornelius Ingram, Jared Cook, Travis Beckum, Shawn Nelson and Chase Coffman.

I also don't agree that the first defensive pick should be a player who is converting to a new position. I like Harris but he would be to much of a risk to take for a team struggling at the LB position already. I watched Branden Williams against Oher in the Cotton Bowl. He really looks like a prototype DE but so does Jam98. Oher had his way most of the game with Williams winning a few times. I wouldn't mind if he was drafted but also wouldn't think he solves the problem opposite the Predator.

Wiley and Carr could be steals in your mock.

The FA's I disagree on are Brooking, Grimes and Watson. One big problem with this team is that on the field the veterans are past there primes and they are counted on to do to much. Brooking and Milloy were main pieces to this defense and only have role player skills at this point. They both should be replaced IMO with youth or veterans who still play at a high level consistently. Grimes will be pushed out by the return of Hutchins. His size is not helping his cause. I never liked Gabe Watson or Alan Branch coming out of Michigan so I won't change my stance now.

A for effort C- for the offseason.

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I really like this draft.

I think you've covered all the defensive needs we do have someway or another, the rotational DE I do like. JA98 has his final year starting at DE for me now, if it took Roddy a couple years to shine and he shines brightly now. I think JA98 will realise he has to up his game.

If asked what position we pick first, I certainly wouldn't go TE, but if Pettigrew is there, it's a must take for us I think.

Agreed you could take a couple OLB's in FA but if you're as certain about these guys as you seem, I'm all for them getting the shot.

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It takes some time and effort to do a mock off season and a full first round. I do respect you for putting in the work. Now to the fun part.

I don't like the thought of the teams first two picks being on offense. There are some talented defensive players to be had in the first two rounds. I do however like the Pettigrew pick. I won't be dissapointed if he goes sooner because the TE position is loaded with Cornelius Ingram, Jared Cook, Travis Beckum, Shawn Nelson and Chase Coffman.

Our offense has holes too. That's why i went all defense in FA and was able to focus on fixing some of our holes on offense too. The guys you talked about are not known for their blocking. It's not just that i took a TE because i thought it was the biggest need. I made a full first round mock to determine who will be there when we pick. Pettgrew is the BPA and fills a need so i went with him.

Also i think Meredith will be a great RT and will allow Clabo to battle it out with Dahl for the starting RG spot. Meredith and Pettigrew will provide much better run blocking which has been inconsistent this year.

I also don't agree that the first defensive pick should be a player who is converting to a new position. I like Harris but he would be to much of a risk to take for a team struggling at the LB position already. I watched Branden Williams against Oher in the Cotton Bowl. He really looks like a prototype DE but so does Jam98. Oher had his way most of the game with Williams winning a few times. I wouldn't mind if he was drafted but also wouldn't think he solves the problem opposite the Predator.

That's a good point but he has made a smooth transition and I've been reading about this from Senior Bowl updates. I think it's also a lot easier that he would be playing WLB and the Cover 2 fits his best abilities. If he is not ready then Brooking can start for the first few games. As for Williams, of course he would struggle vs Oher, many DE's would. I'm not drafting him to start, i see him as a guy that can come in for Abraham when he takes his rests and come in at LDE in passing situations. Also the difference between Williams and JA98 is that Williams is a 4th round pick and not 8th overall.

Wiley and Carr could be steals in your mock.

Wiley is a beast! :D

The FA's I disagree on are Brooking, Grimes and Watson. One big problem with this team is that on the field the veterans are past there primes and they are counted on to do to much. Brooking and Milloy were main pieces to this defense and only have role player skills at this point. They both should be replaced IMO with youth or veterans who still play at a high level consistently. Grimes will be pushed out by the return of Hutchins. His size is not helping his cause. I never liked Gabe Watson or Alan Branch coming out of Michigan so I won't change my stance now.

I would prefer to have Brooking restructure so he can mentor some of the new LB's such as Harris and Williams. You said you want Milloy replaced and i have him leaving so I don't know what your trying to say there. As for Grimes, he will come cheap and will give us great depth so I don't see why we shouldn't try to re-sign him.

A for effort C- for the offseason.

Thanks. I appreciate the comments.

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I really like this draft.

I think you've covered all the defensive needs we do have someway or another, the rotational DE I do like. JA98 has his final year starting at DE for me now, if it took Roddy a couple years to shine and he shines brightly now. I think JA98 will realise he has to up his game.

If asked what position we pick first, I certainly wouldn't go TE, but if Pettigrew is there, it's a must take for us I think.

Agreed you could take a couple OLB's in FA but if you're as certain about these guys as you seem, I'm all for them getting the shot.

Yup. I updated it and added Angelo Crowell to the FA's. That way we can get a proven starter. If his injuru issues continue I'm still confident about Jason Williams coming in and doing well.

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I decided to go with upgrading the RT spot. You can go either way really. I got us a situational pass-rusher that will come in when Abraham is resting and will be opposite Abraham on passing situations.

I would like at least on everydown DE that can play the run as well as the pass, like a TRent Cole from PHilly, dont you

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I would like at least on everydown DE that can play the run as well as the pass, like a TRent Cole from PHilly, dont you

Yes. This season is JA98's last if he doesn't improve. I think we will go hard after a DE in next years draft. For now i think a combo of Williams and JA98 will work fine.

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Yes. This season is JA98's last if he doesn't improve. I think we will go hard after a DE in next years draft. For now i think a combo of Williams and JA98 will work fine.

I guess you are still holding on to JA98, I think that is the reason why we differ regarding importance of drafting a DE early that is an everydown DE. I have given up hope and i hope that he can be successful as a DT, but he lacks that explosive first step that is needed as an DE to be effective.

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I guess you are still holding on to JA98, I think that is the reason why we differ regarding importance of drafting a DE early that is an everydown DE. I have given up hope and i hope that he can be successful as a DT, but he lacks that explosive first step that is needed as an DE to be effective.

I think it's important and i wouldn't be upset if we drafted a DE early. I just think that can wait another year and we can take a stud DE in the 1st next year. Jamaal is still pretty effective against the run which is why I'd still want him starting, however Williams would get reps too.

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I like Crowell's versatility. Would have rather had Leroy Hill but he may have eliminated himself.

I mentioned Milloy in my post as an example.

As for run- blocking lets not forget about Ben Hartsock. He was basically an extra O lineman on the field. Thats why I wouldn't mind drafting a young pass catching TE. Shawn Nelson really showed well in Mobile and would be a great 4th or 5th round pick. Beckum and Ingram may have been 1st rounders if not injured.

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I like Crowell's versatility. Would have rather had Leroy Hill but he may have eliminated himself.

I mentioned Milloy in my post as an example.

As for run- blocking lets not forget about Ben Hartsock. He was basically an extra O lineman on the field. Thats why I wouldn't mind drafting a young pass catching TE. Shawn Nelson really showed well in Mobile and would be a great 4th or 5th round pick. Beckum and Ingram may have been 1st rounders if not injured.

Imagine Hartsock and Pettigrew bunched up on the right side with Meredith at RT :D Pettigrew is a complete TE where as some of those guys are just pass catchers. We'd have to sub off Hartsock and that will clue in the defense that it is most likely a pass.

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Imagine Hartsock and Pettigrew bunched up on the right side with Meredith at RT :D Pettigrew is a complete TE where as some of those guys are just pass catchers. We'd have to sub off Hartsock and that will clue in the defense that it is most likely a pass.

That's why I don't like these "Let's get a stretch-the-field-TE" comments ... that works in college, but you can't really show other teams what you're likely going to do at this level of competition. Coaches know tendencies of plays of every formation and plan against it and other than in college, they have the players to counter your moves if they know what's coming.

I prefer big and tough TEs, they don't need to be fast, they have to be able to block well (and Pettigrew blocks like a additional OLiner) and catch the ball in the middle of the field while taking punishment. We had nobody but Roddy who caught the ball in traffic and he's been getting up slowly quite frequent because of it ... we really need somebody who's able to absorb the hit on short/mid routes in the middle of the field and in the redzone.

I'm a big "pound the ball"-type of guy ... for that the TE has to be more of a receiving OLiner than a oversized WR.

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That's why I don't like these "Let's get a stretch-the-field-TE" comments ... that works in college, but you can't really show other teams what you're likely going to do at this level of competition. Coaches know tendencies of plays of every formation and plan against it and other than in college, they have the players to counter your moves if they know what's coming.

I prefer big and tough TEs, they don't need to be fast, they have to be able to block well (and Pettigrew blocks like a additional OLiner) and catch the ball in the middle of the field while taking punishment. We had nobody but Roddy who caught the ball in traffic and he's been getting up slowly quite frequent because of it ... we really need somebody who's able to absorb the hit on short/mid routes in the middle of the field and in the redzone.

I'm a big "pound the ball"-type of guy ... for that the TE has to be more of a receiving OLiner than a oversized WR.

Yep.. That's what makes the Cowboy's TE duo Jason Witten and Martellus Bennett so dangerous. Those guys can block and catch and are matchup nightmares. You can put them in the game and the defense doesn't know what's coming because of their blocking and receiving abilities.

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Really interested in the Greg Carr pick. Who would he battle it out with to make the roster. If he makes it either Brian or Laurent is gone. Who would you guys take?

I got Finneran leaving. Mainly due to his age. We only used him in 4 wide sets and in the red zone. Greg Carr should be able to do that as well and he has a lot of upside.

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i like the meredith idea hes a great value there but i feel like a pass rusher should be higher priority than a tackle. anderson may be a solid de eventually but he will never be quick enough and our pass rush is awful with the exception of the abraham who is so hot and cold. other than that solid mock man

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i like the meredith idea hes a great value there but i feel like a pass rusher should be higher priority than a tackle. anderson may be a solid de eventually but he will never be quick enough and our pass rush is awful with the exception of the abraham who is so hot and cold. other than that solid mock man

Yea I know that's why i got Brandon Williams in the 4th. He's a pass-rush specialist who will come in on passing downs.

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Imagine Hartsock and Pettigrew bunched up on the right side with Meredith at RT :D Pettigrew is a complete TE where as some of those guys are just pass catchers. We'd have to sub off Hartsock and that will clue in the defense that it is most likely a pass.

Did you watch Shawn Nelson at the Senior Bowl? He also is a good combo TE. Pettigrew is so multi talented it is wishful thinking to hope he drops to us. Peria Jerry may be the best player on the board when #24 comes up. I wouldn't hesitate in drafting him. He was impressive during the season and now post season. I would rather take care of need in FA and draft Best Player Available in the draft.

How good would Pettigrew + Haynesworth in one offseason be? Getting one may be more realistic.

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Nice job, especially the first two picks. More of a BPA approach then a biggest need one. I can't argue with your draft and the FA pickups but I will point out that the LDE position will be a huge question this year. There is no way that a guy like Williams can be counted on to pick up the pass rush. He might but your taking a big chance on a 4th round pick DE and the fact that Jamaal may improve. The biggest upside at DE may be Biermann if he can put on some size and increase his strength. If Biermann still is too light to play DE and Jamaal does not improve we will be counting on Williams to save our bacon at LDE.

Another point is that you take the position that we will be good enough to get by this year with a rotation of Jamaal and Williams plus Biermann then next year we can go after a top notch DE. The same case can be made with our TE situation. We have Hartsock and Peele, two players that while not great are good enough to get by.

TD did a great job last year but unfortunately it will take more than just one year to undo Rich McKays incompetence. The Jamaal pick is another of McKays mistakes that still will have ramifications this year. Do we look for his replacement in the draft or FA or do we hope and pray he improves? If he doesn't and we don't have a real option at LDE we will be hurting again this year in the pass rush. Thanks Rich.

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Nice job, especially the first two picks. More of a BPA approach then a biggest need one. I can't argue with your draft and the FA pickups but I will point out that the LDE position will be a huge question this year. There is no way that a guy like Williams can be counted on to pick up the pass rush. He might but your taking a big chance on a 4th round pick DE and the fact that Jamaal may improve. The biggest upside at DE may be Biermann if he can put on some size and increase his strength. If Biermann still is too light to play DE and Jamaal does not improve we will be counting on Williams to save our bacon at LDE.

Another point is that you take the position that we will be good enough to get by this year with a rotation of Jamaal and Williams plus Biermann then next year we can go after a top notch DE. The same case can be made with our TE situation. We have Hartsock and Peele, two players that while not great are good enough to get by.

TD did a great job last year but unfortunately it will take more than just one year to undo Rich McKays incompetence. The Jamaal pick is another of McKays mistakes that still will have ramifications this year. Do we look for his replacement in the draft or FA or do we hope and pray he improves? If he doesn't and we don't have a real option at LDE we will be hurting again this year in the pass rush. Thanks Rich.

I agree wholeheartly that LDE is a big, real ?? for us. I think that Biermann will be great in years to come and will eventually replace Abraham at RDE when he call it quits.

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Man I love picking Carr in the 7th I LOVE it. He's not going to be there cause he's just too big of a target and a touchdown waiting to happen in the redzone, but man, he'd fit right in here as a guy who can come in on 4 wide packages or as a specialist in the redzone, I love it.

I do not like the first 2 picks at all. Not even a little bit.

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I agree wholeheartly that LDE is a big, real ?? for us. I think that Biermann will be great in years to come and will eventually replace Abraham at RDE when he call it quits.

One player that we did not mention at the LDE position is Chauncy Davis. Maybe he gets a legit chance to compete to start at LDE this year. Norwood32 is probably right we need to wait until next year to see what shakes out at the DE position. It was just so frustrating this year to watch the utter lack of a pass rush except for Abe and on some occasions Babs. You wonder what Babs could do at LDE?The other thing that could kill us is what do we do if Abe goes down with an injury this year and we are stuck with Davis, Jamaal, Biermann and Williams. Not a good thought.

To get around this maybe it would make sense to draft someone like Clay Matthews in the first. He fills a need at LB plus he can rush the passer.

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First off: if this fell out i think this would be a very good draft. You address both sides of the ball and took a very holistic approach in your analysis. I'm still disagreeing that we don't get another rb in rotation but i'm assuming you think Thomas Brown returns healthy.

This is gonna be my 3rd mock of the year. Wanted to see how some guys did at the Senior Bowl and Shrine Game. Enjoy :D

Cuts/FA's

Ben Wilkerson - C

Antoine Harris - S

Lawyer Milloy - SS

Grady Jackson - DT

Michael Boley - LB

Coy Wire - LB

Justin Peele - TE

Brian Finneran - WR

Harris and Wire i think stay from a depth and STs perspective. Perhaps Peele as well

Re-Sign

Tyson Clabo - OT/OG

Harvey Dahl - OG

Domonique Foxworth - CB

Brent Grimes - CB

Keith Brooking - LB - Must restructure, if not he's gone.

Agree on all.

FA Signings

C.J. Mosley - DT - 6'2 - 305lbs - Can play NT and is very athletic

Sean Jones - SS - 6'1 - 220lbs - Ideal safety in the cover 2

Gabe Watson - NT - 6'3 - 323lbs - A young Grady Jackson

Angelo Crowell - LB - 6'1 - 241lbs - If his injuries check out he would make a great starting SLB

Nice signings.

This draft class has very weak DT's... especially at NT which is what we need. Mosley and Watson will give us quality, experienced DT's which we won't be able to get in the draft.

Agree. few are standing out. Even Raji and Perry are not exactly Dorsey and Ellis.

1st round

Detroit ----------------Eugene Monroe - OT

St. Louis -------------Andre Smith - OT

Kansas City ---------Matt Stafford - QB

Seattle ---------------Michael Crabtree - WR

Cleveland -----------Aaron Curry - LB

Cincinnati -----------Jason Smith - OT

Oakland -------------Jeremy Maclin - WR

Jacksonville ---------Malcom Jenkins - CB

Green Bay -----------Everette Brown - DE/OLB

San Francisco-------Mark Sanchez - QB

Buffalo ---------------Brian Orakpo - DE

Denver ---------------B.J. Raji - DT

Washington ---------Michael Oher - OT

New Orleans--------Ray Maualuga - LB

Houston -------------James Laurinatis - LB

San Diego------------Chris Wells - RB

New York Jets ------Peria Jerry - DT

Chicago --------------Michael Johnson - DE

Tampa Bay-----------Knowshon Moreno - RB

Detroit --------------- Duke Robinson - OG

Philadelphia ----------Eben Britton - OT

Minnesota ------------Larry English - DE

New England --------Vontae Davis - CB

Atlanta -------------Brandon Pettigrew - TE

Miami -----------------Aaron Maybin - OLB

Baltimore -------------D.J. Moore - CB

Indianapolis ----------Percy Harvin - WR

Philadelphia-----------Louis Delmas - S

NY Giants-------------Hakeem Nicks - WR

Tennessee -----------Tyson Jackson - DT

Arizona ---------------LeSean McCoy - RB

Pittsburgh ------------ Phil Loadholt - OT

Falcons Draft

1 - Brandon Pettigrew - TE - Oklahoma State - 6'5 - 257lbs - 4.75

Gives us a huge threat at TE. Another weapon for Matt Ryan. Pettigrew had a great week at the Senior Bowl and showed everyone he could block just as well as he could catch.

if available he's certainly a great weapon and playmaker. A very complete TE who could be Jason Whittenesque for us.

2 - Jamon Meredith - RT - South Carolina - 6'5 - 302lbs - 5.04

One of the most underrated OT's this year. Meredith is a very athletic pass blocker, but he is also a great run blocker. He was one of the best players in the Shrine game.

I like this player, but i think he's a bit small for the type of RT i think we'll target. I think we are looking for a big mauler. But i love the positional pick.

3 - Nic Harris - LB - Oklahoma - 6'2 - 233lbs - 4.55

They said he was to slow to be Safety so he tried LB. At the Senior bowl he had an amazing week of practice at LB. He would be a great fit for us in the Cover 2 because of his coverage skills. Will be our starting WLB where he can work in space.

Interesting pick. And would be a very good value here.

4 - Brandon Williams - DE - Texas Tech - 6'5 - 252lbs - 4.72

A very talented pass-rusher that can sub in for Abraham. Had 11 sacks and 12.5 TFL this season and declared early.

This a good pick from depth and STS help if nothing else. Good value

5 - Otis Wiley - S - Michigan State - 6'2 - 210lbs - 4.53

One of my favorite players in this years draft. Wiley is a great leader and a great player. He has also played some LB as well.

5 - Jason Williams - OLB - Western Illinois - 6'1 - 241lbs - 4.55

This is a LB i really like and i feel is capable of starting for us at SLB. He is a small school guy but at the Shrine Game he proved he should be mentioned with the big boys. He is great in Coverage and will be a good fit for us. Not only that, he is a punishing run-stopper as well.

7 - Greg Carr - WR - Florida State - 6'6 - 216lbs - 4.63

Boom or bust pick. He is a talented WR that was forced to deal with a bad QB. His large size makes him a threat in the redzone and that's what I'm hoping he can do for us. Finneran is getting old and and we'll need someone to do what Finneran did for us.

The last 3 picks are just good value picks. I'm not as optimistic about them being starters or immediate impact players. But they would be good at least in terms of depth and STs help. I still think Wire will be around

And that is my post-Senior bowl mock. I would greatly appreciate and feedback, good or bad.

I like your mock better than most because you don't ignore the offense and simply draft 6 defensive players and have them starting. I do think that your namesake is not the true complimentary back for our rotation. I see a rb drafted in the first 3 rounds depending on how folks slide. You still didn't help the return game much. But i can't knock that as i'm not sure what the coaching staff thinks it has in norwood and douglass. i do know this, if they intend to utilize douglass more as wr i think a returner type will be drafted. Overall a good draft in terms of position and depth. A bit heavy on safeties and LBs but good overall.

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