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who thinks Vick cant pass?

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To all of you Vick haters you better hope we dont play the 49ers this season they are already talkin about signing Reeves if they get Vick i pray to god we dont play these guys.For all you haters going by stats talking about well Vick is inconsistent you are crazy when he played with Roddy White who has still proved to this day he drops passes.He dropped passes thats has cost us one game against Denver.That if we had of won that game Arizona mightve been playing us in the dome.Because we wouldve had that 2nd seed an been 12-4.remember the Vikings game an Arizona game where he dropped passes that couldve been huge plays.

Vick has his best passing season under Reeves with his first time being a starter.When he had decent receivers stop feeding into that media crap.Remember when our team was on the same page when we played the Steelers where Vick threw 4 td passes.GTFO with that he cant pass if you had his athleticism u would use it too.That might just have something to do with being the best mobile qb the league has ever seen.As far as his pass ratings being in the 50's. Think about it 4 a second.OK times up.The falcons led the league i think with drops both years Roddy and Jenkins played with Vick.I know Vick throws laser beams sometimes but most of their drops were when he put the ball right in their frikkin hands.Remember that special Brian Baldinger had about our drops in 06.

When he was like thats why the falcons were losing games were because of the drops.remember Peerless sorry azz and Dez White were here before Jenkins an Roddy.Well to all you Vick haters that maybe why his stats were'nt that good, ever think about that,and as far as reading defense's go.With vick's atheleticism he could use that an it would'nt matter.SO STOP HATING ON VICK.I WILL ALWAYS BE A VICK FAN TIL I DIE! BUT I DO LOVE MATT RYAN! HE IS GREAT! BUT LETS JUST PRAY WE BUILD OUR DEFENSE RIGHT IN THE OFFSEASON,CUZ I DO NOT WANNA FACE THIS GUY.WHEN VICK COMES BACK,KEEP IN MIND HE IS GOING TO HAVE A CHIP ON HIS SHOULDER AS IF ITS SOMETHING HE'S GOT TO PROVE.IM TELLING YALL now.SO STOP SAYING THE MAN CANT THROW,THATS B.S remember being the first team to beat Green Bay in a playoff game in lambeau field.Remember Vick an our D getting us to the NFC championship game.Stop Hating the guy can pass.He was never surrounded with great receivers,because Roddy an Jenkins could'nt catch at the time,and yall know im right!

First off, I can't take anything you say at all serious with such horrible spelling and grammar.

Second of all, Vick's passing skills are terrible. His only true asset is his strong arm. He lacks touch and the ability to read defenses. He rarely gets past his first read, before he starts scrambling. It was no mere coincidence that White and Jenkins became goto WRs the very year Vick wasn't throwing to them. Come on guy, rewatch the games. Nearly every time Vick did throw to a WR, the throw was either late or off-target. The WRs almost always were being hit as the ball arrived, thus one of the worst yds after catch ratings. They haven't had to reach for balls to catch near as often the past two years. And Ryan puts the ball in a very cathable position and also where only the receiver has a chance at the ball, most times. Ryan can take something off the throw or dink it over a LB. Vick always threw missiles.

Yeah, Vick threw 4 TDs vs. Pitt....and barely got ver 200yds doing so....then two weeks later against a 3-13 Lions team, he has a 53% comp, 1TD and 2 INts for a whopping 52 passer rating....so, you say "OK,everybody has a bad game"....the very next week is 4-12 Cleveland....40% comp., 1 TD, 2INTs and a 43.4passer rating....that year, he had 8 games with a 61 or lower passer rating.

Oh, you say White drops passes.....Newsflash! So does TO, Randy Moss and yes,even Larry Fitzgerald! It happens. But it is awfully strange that White and Jenkins, heck, every WR Vick threw to had trouble catching the ball, except for the huge target in Crumpler. Maybe because the short Vick could actually see him over those massive O and D linemen.

So what if he goes to SF? If we can get the kind of defensive speed the defenses in TB, Baltimore, Pitt, Philly, Dallas and Carolina either had or have....it will be an easy victory for us. You might notice that Vick had all kinds of trouble with those teams....Why, you ask? because they shut down his ability to run and dared him to pass to beat them. Which he almost never did....thus his like 7 or 8 wins in 28 games against teams that finished above .500.

This team has moved on and now proven that Vick held them back. So, maybe the Vick lovers can move on to his next team!

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But it's all the receivers fault. They couldn't catch a cold for Vick, yet those same receivers magically turn into great receivers for the likes of Joey Harrington, Byron Leftwich, Chris Redman, and Matt Ryan. Same for those receivers who came here after have at least some measure of success (not greatness) in other places, but people wanted to believe they had their hands chopped off before playing for us.

So recievers were good pre-Vick, but sucked with Vick. And other receivers have been good post-Vick, but sucked with Vick.

Where are the receivers who were good WITH Vick???? chirp chirp

Yeah, it's only a WR problem, never a QB one.

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Steve Young is who Vick favors the most, except the fact that Vick much better at equal stages. Steve Young was a bust till San Fran and at San Fran he was to me better then Aikman.

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Happens to all QBs, like ryans underthrows for ints.

*yawn*

Now we're comparing Ryan's QB ability to Vick's? Apples to oranges.

At least with Ryan, he has shown the ability to lead a comeback with his arm by getting his WRs involved and not only with his feet.

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IT waz all over ESPN.Remeber they made a big deal about it! lol but Roddy has improved though! LOL

Oh my freaking God! Get off it. Name one WR that doesn't drop 'wide open" passes now and then? You can't. **** the 'great' TO drops easy passes all the time, yet everyone thinks he's one of the best ever. I've seen Jerry Rice drop sure TDs. The difference....their QBs also throw catchable balls when they are not wide open and thus they make up for it. The Falcons were never in the worst ten in the league in drops in any season.

A truly good QB overcomes some dropped passes.

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you know what,you have a good point,alot of people dont know thats why Roddy an jenkins are soo good right now.Joe Horn mentored those guys just like he did Colston an Henderson in New Orleans an then after they learned.They got rid of Horn.We got rid of horn also,just like the saints did.After his services.Because that really was the only reason we brought him in.Because we didnt have any veteran receivers with leadership and Horn helped those guys out alot.People still dont even know that.lol

OK, so explain why Peerless Price came here with so much expectations coming off some solid receiving years, yet couldn't get a pass to save his life with Vick?

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Who cares about Vick. He isn't relevant to our team anymore flyfalconfly or whoever you are calling yourself today.

Is that who this guy is? :o

Man, I'm genuinely disappointed if that is him. Initially, he started off okay with a few threads then ended up acting like a fool because the only way he could back up his football arguments was with insults and threats.

What a shame.

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Another Vick hugger....

IMO, a big reason why the ATL WR's were dropping so many balls during the Vick era is because Ron Mexico wasn't that accurate to begin with. How many times did you see #7 overthrow AND underthrow his targets? I saw it plenty. ****, Vick didn't know the meaning of a touch pass. Hey I know, let's throw the ball a 100mph every time!!

I used to be a Vick supporter because he was entertaining to watch and he was the QB of my favorite team. You could call that somewhat blind loyalty since I like the Falcons so much. He did put us in positions to win but come on....he made tons of bone-headed moves (on and off the field).

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his TD to INT ratio was always good. He did not throw many INTs.

TD to INT ratio good huh?

2004 14 to 12

2005 15 to 13

2006 20 to 13

Barely better than 1 to 1.

Never had a season completing 60% of his passes.

Never threw for 300 yds in a game.

Just some things a "good" QB has to do to win games when the run is stopped.

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Just because someone can throw a football a long, long way or very, very hard doesn't make him an NFL passer.

Every team that had success stopping Vick did it by blitzing often. Give him time, and MV can indeed throw the football pretty well. Put some pressure on him, and his passes get eratic. BVG showed some tendencies to blitz this past season. If he keeps it up, it will serve him well.

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TD to INT ratio good huh?

2004 14 to 12

2005 15 to 13

2006 20 to 13

Barely better than 1 to 1.

Never had a season completing 60% of his passes.

Never threw for 300 yds in a game.

Just some things a "good" QB has to do to win games when the run is stopped.

Sorry but...

here and here

just wanted to point that out. Carry on.

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We will most likely eventually play Vick no matter which team he goes to. Doesn't matter. We have to prepare and play our game. He is no different than any other talented NFL QB out there -we do our due diligence and then play the game. If we win - Great - if we lose - hopefully we learn something from it.

Doesn't matter - and I don't care where he goes, honestly. I'll still watch him because I've always loved his style and he's talented and exciting to watch. But, when it comes to his new team playing the Falcons - I'll be rooting for his defeat. Just the way I am.

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We will most likely eventually play Vick no matter which team he goes to. Doesn't matter. We have to prepare and play our game. He is no different than any other talented NFL QB out there -we do our due diligence and then play the game. If we win - Great - if we lose - hopefully we learn something from it.

Doesn't matter - and I don't care where he goes, honestly. I'll still watch him because I've always loved his style and he's talented and exciting to watch. But, when it comes to his new team playing the Falcons - I'll be rooting for his defeat. Just the way I am.

Couldn't have said it any better. ^_^

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I, love the directions were going in. But i agree Vick lost his heart when Mckay got here. Richie and Artie really screwed the pooch when they forced Coach Reeves out. Coach had Vicks respect. But thats all over and done with now.

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Every team that had success stopping Vick did it by blitzing often. Give him time, and MV can indeed throw the football pretty well. Put some pressure on him, and his passes get eratic. BVG showed some tendencies to blitz this past season. If he keeps it up, it will serve him well.

Maybe we should teach Vick to read a defense, how 'bout it???? Teams blitzed Ryan early & often too this season, by game 14, he had taken no sacks off of a blitz (not sure about the last 2 games). Difference between Vick & Ryan there is Ryan understood what the defenses were doing & knew where to go with the ball, and he could do it accurately.

Put me back there with no rush and I can throw the ball pretty well too.

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People in the SF Bay area should take heed, and start hiding their dogs today!

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I, love the directions were going in. But i agree Vick lost his heart when Mckay got here. Richie and Artie really screwed the pooch when they forced Coach Reeves out. Coach had Vicks respect. But thats all over and done with now.

Vick didn't respect Reeves or the Franchise enough to abandon his plans to establish an illegal dog fghting ring. It was set up in 2001/2002, when Reeves was still the coach here.

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Just because you can throw a ball 70 yards in the air or you can throw it 100 miles an hour, it doesn't make you a good QB.

Vick didn't trust anybody but Crumpler???? Vick looked middle of the field, and rarely to the outside, that's why he threw to Crumpler & Finneran so much, they both worked the middle of the field.

Vick couldn't throw the slant pass to save his life, that's why he was never a fit for Mora's WCO. Vick couldn't throw a touch outlet pass to a RB. But he could toss the ball effortlessly 60 yards downfield & hope that a receiver would adjust to where ever the ball was going because neither Vick nor the WR knew where that was going to be when it was released.

Vick routinely threw passes behind receivers. Vick routinely threw passes into the defended side of the receiver (against where a WR had established position). Those type throws, while some Vick supporters considered them drops because they were within a 5 foot radius of the receiver, were actually either extremely tough catches for any receiver in the league or ended up being defended passes because the ball was in a position for the defender to make a play on it without getting tagged for PI.

If Vick could have been a more accurate passer, or if he could have thrown the ball with more touch, or if he had spent enough time in the film room & working with the receivers, the we'd be having a completely different conversation right now.

Wrong, he could throw touch on passes, and slants. His problem was the mental aspect of playing QB. He didn't know how to read coverages, or when to run or not. He got too excited a lot of times, and lack of patience was his biggest failure.

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Vick didn't respect Reeves or the Franchise enough to abandon his plans to establish an illegal dog fghting ring. It was set up in 2001/2002, when Reeves was still the coach here.

Lord have mercy. You sound like ESPN and CNN. This is only media talk. ####, I saw him playing football.

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