kschreck 5,859 Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 As far as the comment about what Ray Lewis said about Flacco opposing defenders said the same about Ryan so that argument, if used, must go both ways. Plus it's easy for a teammate to praise the QB, but when opposing players do it, it really means something. Especially when it's after the game and not just before trying to avoid locker material. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Gritz Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 Everyone is a troll that has a different opinion huh?.No, this guy has a long history of trolling.****, you're awfully sensitive. Sorry if I hurt your feelings. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
UDRob 0 Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 The Ravens had the fifth highest SOS in the league this year. The Falcs had the seventh worst. Trying to compare Ryan and Flacco, especially when Flacco is still playing, is stupid.There was a month-long stretch where Flacco had the highest QB rating in football. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Falcons_own_nfc_south 2,972 Posted January 11, 2009 Author Share Posted January 11, 2009 Dude the Rookie of the Year voting is OVER. Matt Ryan is the Rookie of the Year. Dude I was making fun over this BS... Who says that Flacco deserves ROY... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bring It 3,049 Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 Flacco is a very good rookie QB.Matt Ryan is a once in every 30 years rookie QB.End of story. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Izo#2883 346 Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 I think flacco deserves ROY. Yeah his defense is great, but judging by what Ray lewis said about his decision making skills and all of his other qualities and the things I have seen from him he still deserves it. Their D is great but its is equal to our run game. Without turner and norwood we don't make the playoffs. I think a little too much credit is given to Ryan sometimes, while he is good, he wouldn't be as successful without Turner and Norwood.As much as I would like to swim in the glorious light that is Matt Ryan, zone3lb's got a point. This is a team game, and you have to put trust into the players that they give it their 100%. The Baltimore Ravens are in the AFC championship game, and the Atlanta Falcons lost in the first round of the playoffs. This wasnt Joe Flacco's win or Matt Ryans loss. Without Turner and Jerious, who knows what would have happend. Without Lewis and Reed on defense, who knows what would happen to Baltimore.When it comes down to it, what matters is what pieces both teams were missing when their rookie QB's entered the team. I think Baltimore just had fewer pieces to fill than Atlanta. This also means that our time will come. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kschreck 5,859 Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 The Ravens had the fifth highest SOS in the league this year. The Falcs had the seventh worst. Trying to compare Ryan and Flacco, especially when Flacco is still playing, is stupid.There was a month-long stretch where Flacco had the highest QB rating in football.It's based on the year, not on one month. Also, Atl's strength of schedule was brought way down by playing the Chiefs, Raiders, Lions and Rams yet they played the Vikings, Panthers (twice), Bucs (twice), Eagles, Chargers, Saints(twice), none of which are easy games. And saying it's stupid to compare the two is funny since we all know who easily won the AP voting. What did flacco have 0 vote? Obviously those 50 voters don't know what they're talking about huh?btw 44 went to RyanThis is an example of what an opposing player said after playing against him."I'm not trying to compare anybody to Peyton Manning," Saints linebacker Scott Fujita said, "but for somebody to do that that early in their career and have that much maturity and that much control of the offense, and be able to dictate to us the things that they wanted to do, I was impressed with him. And frustrated and ticked off at the same time." Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SkerFalcon8710 18,838 Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 i will throw up if flacco wins a sb.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ibis1 2 Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 Who cares about rookie of the year. I doubt flacco cares because he is in the AFC Championship game. I am certain Ryan would give up the ROY to be in NFC Championship Game. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Gritz Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 Who cares about rookie of the year. I doubt flacco cares because he is in the AFC Championship game. I am certain Ryan would give up the ROY to be in NFC Championship Game.I have no doubt about that statement.....and it's just another reason that Ryan will continue to progress and become a great quarterback. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
UDRob 0 Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 It's based on the year, not on one month. Also, Atl's strength of schedule was brought way down by playing the Chiefs, Raiders, Lions and Rams yet they played the Vikings, Panthers (twice), Bucs (twice), Eagles, Chargers, Saints(twice), none of which are easy games.I apologize, I was looking at the wrong numbers. The Ravens had the third best SOS. The Falcons had the sixth worst. Yes, no doubt playing five of the worst teams in the NFL had something to do with it. And with Ryan's stats? Do we want to go down that road?There is no comparison. Flacco played more than half his regular season games against top 10 pass defenses. NINE games against top 10 Ds. Seven against playoff teams.The Charger and Saints? Do you realize they were the 23rd and 31st pass Ds in the NFL?And saying it's stupid to compare the two is funny since we all know who easily won the AP voting. What did flacco have 0 vote? Obviously those 50 voters don't know what they're talking about huh?btw 44 went to RyanYou're just helping my point. The kid got no respect all year. So how can he be overrated? Last year he was playing I-AA football. Now he's in the AFC title game. Knocking him just makes people look foolish. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
slewis1952 273 Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 Yeah but put Ryan behind the Ravens O line and give him their defense and he wins the Super Bowl Quote Link to post Share on other sites
aerosmith67 2,468 Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 One slight problem with this thread.. Rookie of the Year is now voted on by the fans... so unless there's a ground swell of support for Flacco amongst the fans.. he's not getting it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ThunderCookie 216 Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 Ummm... in two games Flacco still hasn't completed as many passes as Ryan did under more duress in one game. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
zone3lb 13 Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 Ryan's last 4 games werent exactly ROY material either. The AP awards should be given out at the end of the season. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
aerosmith67 2,468 Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 Ryan's last 4 games werent exactly ROY material either. The AP awards should be given out at the end of the season.It is, regular season awards are given out at the end of the regular season. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pencilpusher. just because 3,464 Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 That's why I can't believe analysts or fans even think Flacco is great. The announcers last night came in their pants when bragging about him. But his completion % has been bad all season. Huh? Flacco's completion percentage for the season was 60%. Matts was 61%. Matt had 434 attempts.. Flacco had 428. Ryan, for the regular season completed 8 more passes than Flacco did. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
UDRob 0 Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 Huh? Flacco's completion percentage for the season was 60%. Matts was 61%. Matt had 434 attempts.. Flacco had 428. Ryan, for the regular season completed 8 more passes than Flacco did.Oh no! Not a fact! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pencilpusher. just because 3,464 Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 Oh no! Not a fact! They seem to be getting more rare around here, for sure. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
X-Man21 49 Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 That's why I can't believe analysts or fans even think Flacco is great. The announcers last night came in their pants when bragging about him. But his completion % has been bad all season.Point is: he's winnin and 1 game away fRom a supeR bowl trip. He is doing enough to help out his team along with the stingy Defense they have. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
falconsd1 3 Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 THIS JUST IN!!!! FLACCO RIDES THE RAVENS DEFENSE INTO SUPERBOWL!!!!....Flacco is alright but can you honestly tell me he would have gotten as far as Matt with us or vice versa..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nuttman 0 Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 Flacco = Dilfer Quote Link to post Share on other sites
REV.2000 1,888 Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 IS FLACCO BETTER THAN RYAN ?? WHO KNOWS? I DON'TCARE WHAT FLACCO DOES. HE'S WITH BALTIMORE. NOWMATT ON THE OTHER HAND IS A DIFFERENT STORY. HE'SWITH US, SO HE MUST BE THE GREATEST ... BUT JOE AIN'T BAD! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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