Falcons_own_nfc_south 2,972 Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 In eight playoff quarters, rookie Joe Flacco is a pedestrian 20 of 45 (44.4 percent) for 296 yards and one touchdownNo Sack, No Fumble and No INT....Give award to Flacco No matter he can win the game or not Quote Link to post Share on other sites
formul8or 0 Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 That's why I can't believe analysts or fans even think Flacco is great. The announcers last night came in their pants when bragging about him. But his completion % has been bad all season. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Danishfalcon 399 Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 If Matt only had to put up 13 points per game he wouldn't have thrown more than a few interceptions. That defense is nasty. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FalconFanForLife 2,097 Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 If Matt only had to put up 13 points per game he wouldn't have thrown more than a few interceptions. That defense is nasty.Exactly !Am I the only one who thinks it is insane to try to judge a QB without looking at the team around him?Or coaching?Or scheme?Marino is considered one of the all time great QBs, yet he never won a SB. Is that because he was a bad QB? Or did he not have the team or coaching staff surrounding him that were sufficient to win the big game. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
I'm God 0 Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 We'd be in the superbowl and the best team in the league if he had that defense. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Purple Label 19 Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 It's all good fellas. It's a hate thrown at the feet of Matt Ryan, because they can't toss it high enough. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FalconFanatic!!!! 6 Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 Flacco is nowhere near as good as Ryan seriously. Ryan is rookie of the year Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dirtybirdz91 1 Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 No, Flacco is still far from ROY.Somebody needs to give that whole defense a Defense of the Year award. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Joe™ 3,517 Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 Flacco has won about 4 or 5 games this season and the defence has won the rest Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sun Tzu 7 13,927 Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 Yeah, he's just playing with two future hall of famers on defense. One is in his prime and the other is not far from it.Flacco most likely has the best middle linebacker and one of the best safties of ALL time.Ryan had Abraham and Keith Brooking.If Ryan and Flacco switch places do we even make the playoffs? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bradbowski 191 Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 Flacco is good, but the ROY went to the guy who was most important, and had the most personal impact on his team. Flacco looks like the 2nd coming of Trent Dilfer, when they won the SB, with the defense not putting it on the offense to win games. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FireDawg85 87 Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 Yeah, he's just playing with two future hall of famers on defense. One is in his prime and the other is not far from it.Flacco most likely has the best middle linebacker and one of the best safties of ALL time.Ryan had Abraham and Keith Brooking.If Ryan and Flacco switch places do we even make the playoffs?God no! we would be lucky to match or wins last year. put Ryan on the Ravens...... Undefeated Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KJW 23 34 Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 Yeah, he's just playing with two future hall of famers on defense. One is in his prime and the other is not far from it.Flacco most likely has the best middle linebacker and one of the best safties of ALL time.Ryan had Abraham and Keith Brooking.If Ryan and Flacco switch places do we even make the playoffs? stop it stop it stop it stop it stop it Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ki46dinah 1,950 Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 Exactly !Am I the only one who thinks it is insane to try to judge a QB without looking at the team around him?Or coaching?Or scheme?Marino is considered one of the all time great QBs, yet he never won a SB. Is that because he was a bad QB? Or did he not have the team or coaching staff surrounding him that were sufficient to win the big game.I like that sig photo...its subtle...but you just get this sense in the photo that everyone on that O believed in Ryan. Yes, any player is going to listen to the QB to get the play, but they just have this look in their eyes in that photo. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WCFalcon 176 Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 In eight playoff quarters, rookie Joe Flacco is a pedestrian 20 of 45 (44.4 percent) for 296 yards and one touchdownNo Sack, No Fumble and No INT....Give award to Flacco No matter he can win the game or notDude the Rookie of the Year voting is OVER. Matt Ryan is the Rookie of the Year. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WhenFalconsWin 27,933 Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 Flacco is nowhere near as good as Ryan seriously. Ryan is rookie of the yearThat's why the Ravens tried to move up to get him ahead of us...they settled for sloppy seconds! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mattyicefalcon 4,561 Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 WHATEVER!! Only if Matt had that O-LINE! trust me! we would be super bowl bound rite now!!Even with our pathetic D ....he managed to get us soo many wins! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tandy 18,249 Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 Geez, guys - who cares what Flacco did or didn't do. He's not our problem.As for Matt - getting to the first round and out is not a sign of a bad QB.If that was the case - then Peyton Manning - one of the greatest QB's ever - who has a post season record that's not all that great is a fluke?:1998 - rookie year - no playoffs1999 - 1 playoff game = LOST2000 - 1 playoff game = LOST2001 - no playoffs2002 - 1 playoff game = LOST2003 - 3 playoff games = WON, WON, LOST2004 - 2 playoff games - WON, LOST2005 - 1 playoff game = LOST2006 - 3 playoff games = WON + SB = WON2007 - 1 playoff game = LOST2008 - 1 playoff game = LOSTMatt can't be judged by losing 1 playoff game. Without him - we wouldn't have gotten to the playoffs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
zone3lb 13 Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 I think flacco deserves ROY. Yeah his defense is great, but judging by what Ray lewis said about his decision making skills and all of his other qualities and the things I have seen from him he still deserves it. Their D is great but its is equal to our run game. Without turner and norwood we don't make the playoffs. I think a little too much credit is given to Ryan sometimes, while he is good, he wouldn't be as successful without Turner and Norwood. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KJW 23 34 Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 I think flacco deserves ROY. Yeah his defense is great, but judging by what Ray lewis said about his decision making skills and all of his other qualities and the things I have seen from him he still deserves it. Their D is great but its is equal to our run game. Without turner and norwood we don't make the playoffs. I think a little too much credit is given to Ryan sometimes, while he is good, he wouldn't be as successful without Turner and Norwood. bingo :lol: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Gritz Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 bingo :lol:Whassup troll?Having a good new year so far?.... :lol: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stripedss 306 Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 I think flacco deserves ROY. Yeah his defense is great, but judging by what Ray lewis said about his decision making skills and all of his other qualities and the things I have seen from him he still deserves it. Their D is great but its is equal to our run game. Without turner and norwood we don't make the playoffs. I think a little too much credit is given to Ryan sometimes, while he is good, he wouldn't be as successful without Turner and Norwood.This is what I think. People are naturally homers, the difference is some people appreciate the game more than otheres. There are plenty of homer blind people on the board that don't appreciate the game. Without Turner this is a 4 to 5 win team. See what a really good defense can do for you? That's what gets you through the playoffs. Good or Flacco Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jimsmusic™ 2,126 Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 Ryanalready won the REAL ROY.AP Rookie of the year. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stripedss 306 Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 Whassup troll?Having a good new year so far?.... :lol:Everyone is a troll that has a different opinion huh?. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kschreck 5,803 Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 In the regular season Flacco had exactly one category where his numbers were better than those of Ryan. Flacco had 10 passes that went for 40+ yards to Ryan's 9. One category they tied, longest pass play, all of the rest Ryan had the edge. Yards, completions, percentage, rating and everything in between. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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