michiganfan84 Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 CAN SOMEONE EXPLAIN TO ME WHY THAT SCENARIO SAYS WE CAN CLINCH A SPOT WITH A WIN AND A TB LOSS AND DALLAS LOSS. IT SEEMS TO ME THAT WE COULD STILL LOSE THE NEXT WEEK AND TB OR DALLAS COULD WIN AND THEN WE WOULD BE BACK OUT. ANY THOUGHTS? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Espo Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 I say we just listen to whatever the nfl says lolBut i am assuming it as some to do with tiebreakers . since the bucs would be losing to the chargers who we beat.And we will be gaining a game on the cowboys since they play a afc opponent and we play a nfc . so that will add a game for us in a conference tie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michiganfan84 Posted December 17, 2008 Author Share Posted December 17, 2008 believe me, i like how the scenario plays out but it does not make any sense to me with 2 weeks left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Espo Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 read my edit on first post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michiganfan84 Posted December 17, 2008 Author Share Posted December 17, 2008 OK. thanks. It seems that this year has been the year of the deepest use of the tiebreaker ever. I cant recall this much math usage in the NFL for a long time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm_falcons Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 CAN SOMEONE EXPLAIN TO ME WHY THAT SCENARIO SAYS WE CAN CLINCH A SPOT WITH A WIN AND A TB LOSS AND DALLAS LOSS. IT SEEMS TO ME THAT WE COULD STILL LOSE THE NEXT WEEK AND TB OR DALLAS COULD WIN AND THEN WE WOULD BE BACK OUT. ANY THOUGHTS?Dallas or a Philly loss. Plus a Tampon loss and a Falcon win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCBird33 Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 Dallas or a Philly loss. Plus a Tampon loss and a Falcon win. Someone here gave the answer as to why, yes it is tiebreakers. If we win we would be winning a common game, and if they lose they would be losing a common game. In week 17 we do not play a common team, and therefore win or lose we will have clinched the common game tiebreaker vs. TB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juraitwaluzka Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 But i am assuming it as some to do with tiebreakers . since the bucs would be losing to the chargers who we beat.And we will be gaining a game on the cowboys since they play a afc opponent and we play a nfc . so that will add a game for us in a conference tieAlmost. If Tampa and Dallas lose this week while we win this week, and they both win next week we have equal records at 10-6. The Cowboys win the tiebreaker over both of us due to conference record and take the 5th seed. We would win the divisional tiebreaker with Tampa which would go down to the 3rd criteria, common games, where the SD game would be the difference maker in our favor (4th criteria would be conference record which they would win but it doesn't matter since it's #4).I spelled it out in more detail here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirty bird 025 Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 Almost. If Tampa and Dallas lose this week while we win this week, and they both win next week we have equal records at 10-6. The Cowboys win the tiebreaker over both of us due to conference record and take the 5th seed. We would win the divisional tiebreaker with Tampa which would go down to the 3rd criteria, common games, where the SD game would be the difference maker in our favor (4th criteria would be conference record which they would win but it doesn't matter since it's #4).I spelled it out in more detail hereIn that case.....if the cowboys win out and we win out we still win due to the fact we will (assuming) beat the rams, which the cowboys were embarrassed by . They only have one more conference game left and thank god its against the eagles. I would not want to face the eagles right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juraitwaluzka Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 In that case.....if the cowboys win out and we win out we still win due to the fact we will (assuming) beat the rams, which the cowboys were embarrassed by . They only have one more conference game left and thank god its against the eagles. I would not want to face the eagles right now.That is assuming that Tampa loses to either SD or Oak. If Tampa wins out as well, then the tiebreaker goes to conference record as common opponents would be a wash. If we win out then conference record would be a wash. Then it would go to strength of victory, which would then come down to (crazy enough) whether Seattle or or St Louis has a better record, which looks to be Seattle which means Tampa would win the tie breaker. Hopefully it won't get this far.As for Dallas, if we both end up 8-4 in conference then next criteria is Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games, minimum of four. This is where the Philly game could hurt us as Dallas would've beat them twice while we lost to them, but I haven't gone to the trouble to figure this out. I'm not sure how they calculate this when you have us playing the Bucs twice but them once and them playing the Eagles twice, us playing them once... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirty bird 025 Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 That is assuming that Tampa loses to either SD or Oak. If Tampa wins out as well, then the tiebreaker goes to conference record as common opponents would be a wash. If we win out then conference record would be a wash. Then it would go to strength of victory, which would then come down to (crazy enough) whether Seattle or or St Louis has a better record, which looks to be Seattle which means Tampa would win the tie breaker. Hopefully it won't get this far.As for Dallas, if we both end up 8-4 in conference then next criteria is Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games, minimum of four. This is where the Philly game could hurt us as Dallas would've beat them twice while we lost to them, but I haven't gone to the trouble to figure this out as I really don't care if we are a 5 or 6 seed as long as we get in seriously.......lets really hope it doesn't come down to that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juraitwaluzka Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 No doubt! A Falcons win, Dallas loss and Tampa loss would be just fine with me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaxar Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 Common GamesDal:phi WGB WStl LTB WPhi ?Atl:Phi LGB WTB LTB WStl ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconsfan1987 Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 PLAYOFFS!!!! PLAYOFFS? WE ARE TALKING ABOUT PLAYOFFS!!!Sorry had to get that in sometime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juraitwaluzka Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 Ok, so there you go, in our scenario of both winning out Dallas would be 5-1 we would be 4-2. GO RAVENS!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Espo Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 To make it very simple... Saturday watch the cowboys game on nfl network.. then sunday at 1 watch the bucs game..and then at 4 watch the falcons game ... lol after that hopefully all dreams will be fufilled lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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