FalconMama Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 Film doesn't lie: New Orleans Saints loss to Atlanta Falcons was uglyPosted by Jeff Duncan, The Times-Picayune November 11, 2008 2:25PMCategories: SaintsChris Granger/The Times-PicayuneMike McKenzie's injury is going to be tough for the Saints to overcome.In studying the film of the New Orleans Saints' 34-20 loss to the Falcons, there were few bright spots.The Falcons dominated the Saints on both sides of the ball and looked like the smarter, better-coached, better-prepared, more physical, more enthusiastic and more disciplined football team.More than anything, the thing that stood out to me was the Saints' breakdown in composure.FOX sideline reporter Charissa Thompson reported that cornerback Mike McKenzie was screaming at teammates, primarily safety Roman Harper, after the Falcons' second touchdown, which was set up by a 32-yard catch by Michael Jenkins when the Saints appeared to blow a coverage on the play.And everyone saw the normally cool-headed Drew Brees get into it with tight end Jeremy Shockey at the end of the third quarter.The Saints have tried to downplay he incident but it was noteworthy simply because such scenes occur so rarely from the Saints, who by and large are a calm, collected and professional bunch.Down the stretch, it'll be interesting to see if these incidents are indeed isolated or the start of an ugly trend.Stay tuned. Now on to the video tape:DEFENSIVE BREAKDOWNS: Saints fans keep clamoring for defensive coordinator Gary Gibbs to blitz but it seems like every time he does dial up a "red dog" the Saint get burned. On Jenkins' 32-yard catch that set up the Falcons' second touchdown, safety Harper got caught in no-man's land, leaving 5-foot-9 Aaron Glenn in single coverage against the 6-4 Jenkins. Harper cheated to the line of scrimmage to help in run support but was hung out to dry when Falcons quarterback Matt Ryan audibled to the deep ball at the line. One series later, Gibbs sent free safety Kevin Kaesviharn on a delayed blitz but the veteran appeared to also have the assignment on running back Jerious Norwood if he came out of the backfield. Kaesviharn was so ****-bent on rushing the quarterback that he picked up Norwood's release too late and Ryan found him for an easy 21-yard gain. Later the Saints blitzed cornerback Randall Gay and linebacker Jon Vilma on the play, leaving Scott Shanle in single coverage on Norwood. Ryan unloaded the pass before the pressure arrived and Norwood was off to the race. Maybe now we know why the Saints don't blitz more often. When they do it blows up in their faces.Atlanta's Roddy White made the Saints secondary look bad. CORNER TROUBLE: The Saints cornerbacks really struggled. The Falcons attacked Gay on their first scoring drive, going at him three times in four plays for gains of 14, 13 and 16 yards, the latter a touchdown reception by Roddy White. Gay wasn't close to making a play on the ball on any of the plays. Not making excuses for him, but Gay doesn't look 100 percent healthy. Perhaps he's still hampered by the undisclosed injury he suffered against the Chargers. Saints coaches called it "cramps" but it looked more like some kind of lower back injury. And Gay wasn't the only one who struggled. Even before his injury, Mike McKenzie gave up a lot of big plays and looked hesitant to challenge the Falcons receivers. Ditto Glenn.BAD CALLS OF THE DAY:The Saints reeled off consecutive gains of 30, 8, 11 and 8 on their first drive of the second quarter to give them a second-and-2 at the Atlanta 20. Then, they squandered their chances to score a touchdown and trim the Falcons margin to 14-10 with a pair of head-scratching calls. First, they ran Pierre Thomas into the gut of the Falcons defense on second-and-2, where he was stuffed by Grady Jackson for no gain. Where was fullback Mike Karney? Instead, the Saints went with a two-tight end set and motioned Billy Miller from the fullback alignment to the line of scrimmage. Then, on third-and-2, Sean Payton again tried to get cute, spreading the Falcons out with a three-receiver, one-tight end personnel package with Aaron Stecker as the lone back. Brees attempt to throw for the first down was thwarted when John Abraham beat Jammal Brown for the sack. If you want a definition of why the Saints are labeled a finesse team look no further than those two plays.DIDYA NOTICE?: The Saints weren't the only ones with a "shot" play - what Payton called the Saints first play, taking a shot down the field - in their repertoire on the first snap. It looked the Falcons were attempting a flea flicker on their opening play from scrimmage. Michael Turner was going to pitch the ball back to Ryan after the handoff but wisely kept the ball when Sedrick Ellis' penetrated into the backfield. Bobby McCray tackled Turner for a 2-yard loss. The "tell" that something else was up: Both Falcons receivers acted like they were blocking then ran deep routes instead of sticking with their run blocks.FUTURE STAR: The Saints have seen some impressive performances by opposing players this season - Brandon Marshall, Antoine Winfield, Steve Smith, Antonio Gates - but none by an opposing quarterback better than the one Ryan displayed against them. I was admittedly skeptical about the rookie from Boston College before Sunday. Not any more. He plays like an NFL veteran. Exhibit A: On second-and-5 at the Saints 34, Ryan noticed the Saints aligned in man-to-man press coverage and audibled to a new play, lofting a perfect back-shoulder pass to Jenkins in single coverage against Glenn. Ryan quickly identified the mismatch the 6-4 Jenkins had on the 5-9 Glenn and attacked it. The result was a 32-yard pass to the Saints 2, setting up the Falcons' second touchdown. The Saints are going to have to contend with Ryan for a long time.New Saints kickerGarrett Hartley had a good debut.SILVER LINING: Lost in the disappointing loss was the fact that the Saints might have found a kicking game. Punter Glenn Pakulak and kicker Garrett Hartley. Hartley drilled both of his field-goal attempts and had solid depth and hangtime on his kickoffs. Now he just needs to work on his tackling skills. He took quite a blow from Jerious Norwood on his 55-yard return of the opening kickoff of the second half. Pakulak averaged a solid 48.3-yard net on his three punts. On his first punt, a soaring 56-yarder, he showed his athleticism by making a nice open-field tackle on Harry Douglas to save a touchdown.QUICK SNAPS:• I liked the way Courtney Roby returned kickoffs in his debut as the main return man. Roby adds much-needed speed to the Saints' return game and looks like a potential game-breaker back there. He averaged 25.4 yards on five returns, including a 41-yarder in the second half.• Speaking of Roby, his 41-yard "Should I or should I not?" return resulted in a pair of injuries. Aaron Stecker pulled his hamstring while trying to make a lead block for Roby along the Saints sideline. Earlier in the play, Mike Karney strained his left knee when Marvin Mitchell fell into his leg from the side while making a block on Antoine Harris.Chris Granger/The Times-PicayuneMarques Colston had a good day overall against the Falcons.• Sure, Marques Colston dropped a critical touchdown on the Saints' third series but he was spectacular the rest of the game. His seven-catch, 140-yard effort signaled to the rest of the league that he is definitely back.• As can be expected of a second-time starter, center Matt Lehr struggled at times. He had a big holding call that negated a big pass play to Colston and was whistled for a false start in the red zone. He also was overpowered by Jackson on a second-and-1 play, resulting in the aforementioned stuff of Thomas for no gain.• The Falcons did a nice job against Vilma, limiting him to a season-low three tackles. Vilma was also guilty of taking some poor angles, resulting in some nice gains by Michael Turner. It was not one of his better games.• Devery Henderson has enjoyed a solid season and made some big plays for the Saints but it could be even better if he would learn to go get the ball instead of waiting on it. On the Saints' opening play and another deep ball on their second series. Henderson had a chance to make big, momentum-changing plays and allowed the defensive back to out-fight him for the ball. Henderson should watch tape of how teammate Marques Colston goes up and competes for the ball instead of waiting on it to get into his body. • Brees is not the same quarterback when he gets rattled. Once the Falcons established that they could pressure him early he started to rush throws and miss some reads. Very un-Brees-like. The Falcons had a remarkable 15 pass break-ups but many of them were due to inaccurate or forced throws into coverage by Brees.• The Falcons used a quick count and hurry-up offense a couple of times to catch the Saints napping on defense.PERSONNEL GROUPINGS: The Saints said their game plan was to run the ball on the Falcons but once they fell behind that idea went out the window. As a result, the Saints ran almost entirely out of multiple-receiver sets. They ran an incredible 55 plays in their two-minute drill, including the entire 36-play fourth quarter. Fullback Mike Karney left the game early in the third quarter with a knee injury but even before that he was being lightly used. He played a season-low nine snaps before the injury.Here's the breakdown of the Saints' offensive personnel packages on all of their 76 plays from scrimmage:3WR/1TE/1RB - 55 snaps out of 76 plays2WR/2TE/1RB - 8 out of 762WR/1TE/1RB/1FB - 7 out of 764WR/1TE/ - 3 out of 761WR/3TE/1RB - 1 out of 761WR/2TE/1RB/1FB - 1 out of 763WR/1RB/1FB - 1 out of 76 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gritz Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 My favorite line in all of that:The Saints are going to have to contend with Ryan for a long time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLFalcon36 Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 It's hard for fans to notice the technical side of things, this shows just how smart Ryan really is... Not only is he finding the open man quickly, he's seeing the field perfect pre-snap, re-aligning the formation and/or play then attacking weaknesses that HE sees...YKW never did this, not even in 5-6 years in the game and our wonderful rookie is diagnosing and lighting up defenses in the first half of his first season...We have struck gold finally.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tandy Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 That's really a great read - thanks. The guy really studied that game - very detailed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLFalcon36 Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 If only we had a guy in Atlanta that did this kind of stuff... Instead we have writers that refer to secret players like Henry Douglas, John Henderson, Keith Brookings, Brian Finnerman, Matt Ryans, John Abrahams, Michael Jennings and Adam Jenkins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamPlayer1 Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 I am stunned at how well Ryan reads the defense and how quickly he gets the ball out. He is a h*ll of a student !!!!!! Wow!!!! He's hard to sack for a rookie! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tandy Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 If only we had a guy in Atlanta that did this kind of stuff... Instead we have writers that refer to secret players like Henry Douglas, John Henderson, Keith Brookings, Brian Finnerman, Matt Ryans, John Abrahams, Michael Jennings and Adam JenkinsIf this wasn't so sad, it'd be funny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bossFALCON™ Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 blitzing ryan = trouble for the blitzing team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tandy Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 blitzing ryan = trouble for the blitzing teamIt's true. Even though he was sacked twice in Philly on I forget how many blitzes now - they were both late in the game and he kind of fell on one of those. Half-a... sack at best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Roc Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 If only we had a guy in Atlanta that did this kind of stuff... Instead we have writers that refer to secret players like Henry Douglas, John Henderson, Keith Brookings, Brian Finnerman, Matt Ryans, John Abrahams, Michael Jennings and Adam JenkinsThe writing/coverage for the Falcons in this town blows... Each week, I'm reading more coverage and breakdowns of our team from the opposing team's paper... It really is pathetic. The best coverage/reporting we can expect during the week is speculation of bringing back D. Hall... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconMama Posted November 12, 2008 Author Share Posted November 12, 2008 Roddy has always had big days against the Saints.. Now if we can only get him to start owning Tampa Bay's secondary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tandy Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 Roddy has always had big days against the Saints.. Now if we can only get him to start owning Tampa Bay's secondary.But you can't compare the Saints defense to Tampas. Tampa has a great defense, as much as I hate to admit it. But, I think we'll get better and better against them - and I believe between Ryan and White - they'll figure it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Statick Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 It's hard for fans to notice the technical side of things, this shows just how smart Ryan really is... Not only is he finding the open man quickly, he's seeing the field perfect pre-snap, re-aligning the formation and/or play then attacking weaknesses that HE sees...YKW never did this, not even in 5-6 years in the game and our wonderful rookie is diagnosing and lighting up defenses in the first half of his first season...We have struck gold finally....My uncle and I were talking about Vick's play just today. We've long come to the conclusion that Vick couldn't read a defense that well. There was a reason Alge had so many passes from Vick thrown to him...he was Vick's first hot read. If that wasn't there, then he would take off and run.It feels great to have a real QB again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bossFALCON™ Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 roddy has eaten up the saints and panthers secondary for the last 2 years and he did better against the bucs this year, ryan was just kind off of, which is understandable since it was his 2nd game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xfactor Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 Great Article thanks for posting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenB321 Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 It is telling that even he calls the Saints a "finesse team". That is what I was thinking as I watched the game. The Falcons were much more the physical team in this contest. The addition of Ryan to the Falcons is of course monumental but a very important ingredient to our success has been our transformation into a tough physical team. It reminds you of how Jax has been the last few years when Coach Smith was with them. In particuliar our OL and Turner have turned the Falcons into a team that can dominate the other team. We practically owned the ball in the third quarter and there was nothing that New Orleans could do about it. We imposed our will on them. I just wish we could have knocked the crap out of Brees instead of just chasing him around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconchef Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 I'm surprised the writer didn't call out Sean Payton for his two bonehead calls...One, the challenge of the first down spot reeked of desperation, and two, the SECOND onsides kick after the failure of the first attempt was just ridiculous.Sean Payton is looking Mora and Mora like Jim Mora every year...and I"M LOVING IT!! :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconMama Posted November 12, 2008 Author Share Posted November 12, 2008 It is telling that even he calls the Saints a "finesse team". That is what I was thinking as I watched the game. The Falcons were much more the physical team in this contest. The addition of Ryan to the Falcons is of course monumental but a very important ingredient to our success has been our transformation into a tough physical team. It reminds you of how Jax has been the last few years when Coach Smith was with them. In particuliar our OL and Turner have turned the Falcons into a team that can dominate the other team. We practically owned the ball in the third quarter and there was nothing that New Orleans could do about it. We imposed our will on them. I just wish we could have knocked the crap out of Brees instead of just chasing him around.Saints are a finesse team, I noticed that when they played Carolina. They'll forever have the #1 passing attack with a losing record and no title because of it. I wasn't worried at all about them this year, hit em in the mouth and they pack it up. Until coach Payton learns that you can't out pass a team and that you'll eventually need to run to sustain drives then his team will continue to get punched in the mouth. Then before you know it his time in NO will be finished. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlantaprodj Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 I have despised the AJC for years.... this year even more so.Can we trade Moore or Ledbetter for that writer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tazz77 Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 This reads like a sister paper to AJC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sporkdevil Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 Wow, great article, I feel like I'm going to cry. I did read more encouraging things in a Saints article than the AJC puts out.But seriously, you realize how smart Ryan has been, when you read the the "DEFENSIVE BREAKDOWNS" and "FUTURE STAR" sections. When they blitzed, Ryan made them pay, every time. The audible once he noticed man coverage, that got Jenkins up to the 2 yard line. My god, I feel like I'm going to wake up from some sweet dream tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddieK Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 FUTURE STAR: The Saints have seen some impressive performances by opposing players this season - Brandon Marshall, Antoine Winfield, Steve Smith, Antonio Gates - but none by an opposing quarterback better than the one Ryan displayed against them. I was admittedly skeptical about the rookie from Boston College before Sunday. Not any more. He plays like an NFL veteran. Exhibit A: On second-and-5 at the Saints 34, Ryan noticed the Saints aligned in man-to-man press coverage and audibled to a new play, lofting a perfect back-shoulder pass to Jenkins in single coverage against Glenn. Ryan quickly identified the mismatch the 6-4 Jenkins had on the 5-9 Glenn and attacked it. The result was a 32-yard pass to the Saints 2, setting up the Falcons' second touchdown. The Saints are going to have to contend with Ryan for a long timeBest part of the article. Opposing teams, players, and writers are quickly taking notice that we have a special QB behind center. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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